Hi,

just a simple question that i not very sure, for AVR, setting for speaker size, either small or large, this refer to speaker size? or other meaning? if speaker size, which measurement need to refer?

normally floorstander = large and bookshelf = small..

I remember reading from some forum, if I have a sub, set it to small even if it is a floorstand.

You're referring to the setting after the calibration function right (e.g. Audyssey)? What AVR are u using?

Normally "large" is for full range speakers. Meaning your speakers can go down to 20 Hz. If your speaker cannot do this then set to "small". Even if the system sets your speaker to "large" generally I see the recommendation to still set to "small" (especially if you have a sub).

This post has been edited by jchong: Jun 23 2009, 04:07 PM

im using yammy V1900.

wat you mean is that it refer to speaker frequancy and not the speaker size? if all my 7 speaker frequancy cant go down to 20 Hz, mean i set to small?

does speaker frequency can go down to 20hz??i tot only sub can do?

This post has been edited by benjaminn78: Jun 23 2009, 04:26 PM

Yup, it refers to speaker frequency not the size. So you are using the YPAO function on the Yammy.

Only very high end speakers can go down to 20Hz. Most people cannot afford speakers like that. So that's why sub became popular, the sub makes it affordable for people to get low bass.

So yup you should set your speakers to "small".

This post has been edited by jchong: Jun 23 2009, 04:34 PM

Aiks...then I also need to set to small..and hear the different..

but my sub also low end 1..

Yeah do try the different setting and let us know the result.

are there any big different if i change to large? i try, but no really different, maybe my ear not sensitive.

Even if ur Floorstander can go lower then 20hz it is recommended to set it to 'small' if you have a sub. This will allow ur front speakers to be more efficient & more wattage is used for the higher range (80 hz above)while the sub is dedicated to playing the LFE & 80hz below.

The difference is that ur bass will be less muddled since there is only 1 source (Sub) instead of 3 sources.... difficult to detect as bass is non directional but if u listen carefully can hear difference. Ur front will oso sound clearer as there is not much bass output.

I have tried setting to small..but I don't like the bass...
Maybe when I got myself a 12" sub..hehe

Now still prefer to also have bass out from my front.

Same with me, prefer to have impact from front also. So, I set all speakers to SMALL and tune down the cutover to 60Hz. Now I feel full sound from all speakers. I tried cutover at 80Hz but I thought the sound was too thin from LCR speakers.

If u have sub, set all ur speakers to small. Crossover is up to u but usually from 60-80. Sub meant to handle low frequencies so let the bugger do its job. When speakers relief from the heavy burden of low freq, they will handle mid n high better. Ur amp will also thank you.

This post has been edited by arremie: Jun 24 2009, 05:58 PM

Really there is no best way to set it. But generally if you have small speakers like bookshelf then set it to small. If you have large full range floor stander, then by all means set it to full and set the sub cross over to slightly with your main speaker.

Some prefer so set it to small even if they have large full range floor stander speakers, but if your speakers is very capable, then it would be a waste. Why spend so much on floorstander if you are not going to utilise its capability. The other thing is also if the sub is not really good one, then setting it to small would result in poor low frequencies from the sub which would otherwise being produce by the floorstanders.

In fact a very reputable sub maker REL recommend setting the speakers to full and connect the sub using high level input. That way the sub becomes a bass extension of your main speakers. But this set up is mostly for audiophile.

Even if ur front has a 10" woofer, best to set it to small. It has been proven the best setup for a system with a sub. No matter how good ur front can produce the low, it can never beat a sub which is meant for that. Why argue

Proven by who...with what speaker setup? Each and every speakers have different capabilities and sound profile. To say that there is only one way to set it up already shows how inexperience that person is. And your assumption that all subs produce bass better because the are built for that purpose is absolutely wrong! Most subs below Rm3000 can only produce sub-par bass. Loud don't equates to good. A good set of floorstanders can produce much better bass then a low quality sub, so why cut out the bass from these floorstanders and get bullshit bass from the subs?

Hey dude...not everybody can afford sub above 3k. Just bcoz u talk so much about getting SVS (which no where to be seen until now just talk only) doesn't mean u can pass judgement to all system. A sub is a sub which meant to play low frequencies but not all average dude speakers can play low frequencies better than a sub. Just bcoz u hv money n use remoteless 12r only for toilet, don't look down on others.

We are all here to give good and useful advice for all average users and not for show off talk cock jackass only who thinks what he thinks only is right and only his system is the best so only his setup should be followed.



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Ok back to topic people, yes u can google around for the speaker size setup. Most of the recommendation is to set ur speakers to small. As with the crossover u can try what best sounded to you. Anyway there's no definite rules saying u can't set the speaker size to big. That's totally up to you. In the end what sounded best to you IS the best to you

yes, my vote goes here too

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This post has been edited by megatron007: Jun 24 2009, 10:23 PM

Good reading....

http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/speaker-setup-guidelines/

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Added on June 24, 2009, 10:26 pm

This post has been edited by arremie: Jun 24 2009, 10:26 PM

What is your problem?

I am just correcting the statement that the main speakers should be set to small on the AV setting if you have a sub. I don't know which guru did you hear it from. That is absolutely wrong! This statement is true if you have smaller speakers like bookshelf or sat system, but for a full range floorstander and have your sub compliments it. For eg, if you have a floor standers with two 10" woofers and a 12" sub. Which one do you think will move more air? Should you cut off the bass for your floorstanders by setting it to small and just let the sub take overs. Its absolutely ignorant of you to just follow an advice from the internet blindly and not know what the speakers are capable of.

You are damn right not everyone can afford a sub above Rm3K. But that makes it even more critical when we are talking about a less capable sub. Most of these subs are good for movies but are hardly musical at all. At blindly setting the the speakers to small (because that is the only way to do it when you have a sub) is absolutely silly by not trying out what the floor standers can do.

One more thing....maybe I can't afford the SVS and is all bullshit pretending I am trying to get one. But I think you are kurang ajar for looking down on me. There is nothing i have to prove to you here. But i just can't stand seeing people giving silly advice that "the best way is to set your speaker to small when you have a sub even if your sub is a floorstander" bullshit. And trying your share a different opinions makes me cocky.