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post Jun 14 2009, 12:11 PM, updated 17y ago

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Anyone know How to make avanza more stable ?

just lower ? how much if just lower ?

or change sport rims ? 16"inch ?
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post Jun 14 2009, 12:12 PM

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titan + bigger rims
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post Jun 14 2009, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Jun 14 2009, 12:12 PM)
titan + bigger rims
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titan ? what is that ?


Added on June 14, 2009, 12:32 pm
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useless.....dont want. I want in comfort mode.

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post Jun 14 2009, 01:24 PM

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so which one really u want? stable or comfort..

a stable ride meaning low profile tyre n bigger rims for good grip with lowering suspension for stable conering. Its gonna be a bumpy yet stable ride

a comfort ride mean thicker rubber with softwall tyres, make ur ride kinda floaty a bit but of course, comfy

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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jun 14 2009, 12:11 PM)
Anyone know How to make avanza more stable ?

just lower ? how much if just lower ?

or change sport rims ? 16"inch ?
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If you change to bigger rims, it will make it more bumpy as the tyres are lower profile and rims are heavier than stock, hence more unsprung (yes, we call it unsprung) weight.

Lowering by changing to lowered springs, but isn't Avanza using leaf springs at the rear?

I dont know if there are aftermarket shocks for Avanza or any MPV. Changing shocks will effect better comfort ride or better handling.

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post Jun 14 2009, 01:37 PM

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post Jun 14 2009, 01:38 PM

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post Jun 14 2009, 02:00 PM

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TS how old is your Avanza?
Is the absorber leaking?
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post Jun 14 2009, 02:13 PM

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big tires, bigger rims, add UR strut bars
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post Jun 14 2009, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Jun 14 2009, 01:24 PM)
so which one really u want? stable or comfort..

a stable ride meaning low profile tyre n bigger rims for good grip with lowering suspension for stable conering. Its gonna be a bumpy yet stable ride

a comfort ride mean thicker rubber with softwall tyres, make ur ride kinda floaty a bit but of course, comfy

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i want stable, and comfort...i dont want when the car across a little bump keep bounce.


Added on June 14, 2009, 4:10 pm
QUOTE(ah liew @ Jun 14 2009, 02:00 PM)
TS how old is your Avanza?
Is the absorber leaking?
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4 years already, everything still very good, i just dont like the car bounce...


Added on June 14, 2009, 4:11 pmany one can tell me how to solve the problem ? how much for solve all this problem ? I just have a idea that is lower thats it...it will help ?

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post Jun 14 2009, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jun 14 2009, 12:32 PM)
titan ? what is that ?


Added on June 14, 2009, 12:32 pm

useless.....dont want. I want in comfort mode.
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http://titanshocks.com/
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post Jun 14 2009, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Jun 14 2009, 04:17 PM)
which 1 should I choose ?
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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jun 14 2009, 04:22 PM)
which 1 should I choose ?
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call to enquire... uncle richard can guide u and custom make the shocks to ur preference... jz tell him what ride comfort/performance u looking into...
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post Jun 14 2009, 04:28 PM

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u can change to gas type/adjustable type (but it maybe too stiff for u), change wider tires maybe 195/55 or 195/50 or (205/55 if can fit) with maybe 16inch rims if u want to where original for avanza is 185/65/r15...where the 65 series is more to comfort, so when u drive at highspeed it tend to float abit/bounce..... and try to add UR strurt bars on the front,back....sure ur ride become more stable and can corner with much confidence compare to stock avanza...but of course cant be compare with sedan cars..la laugh.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 14 2009, 04:26 PM)
call to enquire... uncle richard can guide u and custom make the shocks to ur preference... jz tell him what ride comfort/performance u looking into...
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Jun 14 2009, 04:28 PM)
u can change to gas type/adjustable type (but it maybe too stiff for u), change wider tires maybe 195/55 or 195/50 or (205/55 if can fit) with maybe 16inch rims if u want to where original for avanza is 185/65/r15...where the 65 series is more to comfort, so when u drive at highspeed it tend to float abit/bounce..... and try to add UR strurt bars on the front,back....sure ur ride become more stable and can corner with much confidence compare to stock avanza...but of course cant be compare with sedan cars..la laugh.gif
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how much for that ? total all.
some said change bigger rims more stable, some said if change bigger rims more bounce. blur blush.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jun 14 2009, 04:31 PM)
how much for that ? total all.
some said change bigger rims more stable, some said if change bigger rims more bounce. blur blush.gif  sweat.gif
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price call to enquire lo... be prepared dat it will be more den rm2.5k-rm3k....

stable and bouncy 2 different thing ler... car can be stable at high speed, but once it hits a bump, it can bounce like no tomolo...
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depends on the personal preference.....for me bigger rims and wider tires sure gives better stability...i had saw quite number of avanza where they change to wider tires and with bigger rims take corners like sedan car... laugh.gif ....
pricing wise..im not sure but sure cost few thousands if u want to change all those....

maybe u can start with absorber 1st den only wider/better tires tires....rims not necessary...
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why avanza so bounce ?
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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jun 14 2009, 04:44 PM)
why avanza so bounce ?
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mpv mar... lightweight body with stiff suspension to accomodate higher load...

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post Jun 14 2009, 04:54 PM

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tall,lightbody weight,small tires,and suspension setup.... laugh.gif .....even 120km++ i feel its gonna fly off anytime soon...
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post Jun 14 2009, 05:39 PM

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if wan 2 remains everything stock~
then increase ur front camber up to half degree both sides then it'll become more stable on high speed n cornering~ brows.gif
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post Jun 14 2009, 06:36 PM

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Avanza is a bubble car, too light for its own good. Haha.
Changing suspension and everything will not improve much, because the car will wobble with it anyway. Drive with more loads or people in it... Add stabilizer bars or the good old strut bars to reduce rolling too.

Good luck yo.
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 14 2009, 06:36 PM)
Avanza is a bubble car, too light for its own good. Haha.
Changing suspension and everything will not improve much, because the car will wobble with it anyway. Drive with more loads or people in it... Add stabilizer bars or the good old strut bars to reduce rolling too.

Good luck yo.
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yea... carry more people improve car stability...
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post Jun 14 2009, 07:18 PM

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Avanza is bouncy bcos of the leaf spring at the rear.

So if u want to tackle that, the only way is to change to softer spring. But after doing so, u're compromising the car's ability to ferry a full load.
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the solution is easy:
buy a set of rear heavy duty absorber (from me tongue.gif ) then ur car ride will become much better.. tested and proven by me and few forumers smile.gif
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post Jun 14 2009, 10:25 PM

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avanza for 7 people, drive only one person will be bouncy. Drove my Bro-in-law avanza, mabuk. soo funny.....1st time mabuk drive a car, before this never. But 1.5 felt beter, not soo buncy.
Read somewhere, use volvo syspension system.
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Check this out TS:
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2007-01D...Avanza-Rear.htm
GAB suspension for Avanza.
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post Jun 14 2009, 11:49 PM

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titan or sell the car
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bcos i am also the victim
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post Jun 14 2009, 11:57 PM

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wow....sad to hear that ( still the same for change absorber ).... cry.gif


Added on June 15, 2009, 12:00 am
QUOTE(ah liew @ Jun 14 2009, 10:50 PM)
Check this out TS:
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2007-01D...Avanza-Rear.htm
GAB suspension for Avanza.
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this ok or not ? anyone try this brand before for avanza ?

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avoid the GAB

if u're low on budget get the APM performax
front and rear
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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jun 14 2009, 11:57 PM)
wow....sad to hear that ( still the same for change absorber ).... cry.gif


Added on June 15, 2009, 12:00 am

this ok or not ? anyone try this brand before for avanza ?
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GAB is a branded stuff so it might cost more as driftmeister said.
As advertised, GAB claimed that their suspension is suitable to suit cars fitted with NGV gas tong at the boot.
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Jun 15 2009, 10:11 AM)
avoid the GAB

if u're low on budget get the APM performax
front and rear
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how much for the APM ?
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If you want to corner stability and comfort.

Why in the first place did u buy the avanza ~_~

If the car is at full load, it shouldnt be that bouncy. But since you say that its bouncy, means you drive alone most of the time or with very few passengers.

so once again.. i ask. what possessed you to buy that car in the first place ~_~
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Jun 15 2009, 11:13 AM)
If you want to corner stability and comfort.

Why in the first place did u buy the avanza ~_~

If the car is at full load, it shouldnt be that bouncy. But since you say that its bouncy, means you drive alone most of the time or with very few passengers.

so once again.. i ask. what possessed you to buy that car in the first place ~_~
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saw ur thread on "Hyundai OR Perodua ?"toyota vios j or myvi SE manual or persona ? "...so why wasting money on upgrading where u can get a stable ride on those car ur wanted to buy.....brows.gif
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QUOTE(hipeys88 @ Jun 15 2009, 12:15 PM)
saw ur thread on "Hyundai OR Perodua ?"toyota vios j or myvi SE manual or persona ? "...so why wasting money on upgrading where u can get a stable ride on those car ur wanted to buy.....brows.gif
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coz avanza is my parent's car.......
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change your suspension to TRD sportivo shocks + spring , then full set Zenden stabilizer bars , and upgarde to 16" or 17" rim should do the tricks smile.gif
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TS, to be honest, forget about it, it's hopeless.....
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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jun 15 2009, 12:57 PM)
coz avanza is my parent's car.......
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if parents car den dun modify until become so sporty... old folks want comfort... they drive vr slowly...
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 15 2009, 01:36 PM)
if parents car den dun modify until become so sporty... old folks want comfort... they drive vr slowly...
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but sometime i drive, cannot tahan.....
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Adding this and that, make minor improvements.
Avanza is NOT Grand Livina - it does not drives like a sedan, Do NOT expect to change that with modding.
I drives a 1.3 Avanza and I have friends that makes changes like those and honestly only minor improvement.
If your Avanza only carries 2 people including you, expect it to bounce "like a rabbit" on the highway.

Avanza is not 100% built like a MPV, it does have the characteristic but its suspension is that of a van/lorry.
It was the cheapest 7 seater MPV around at that time, very soon to be challenge by Perodua MPV.

Ask you father/parent to trade it in for the Perodua MPV.
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QUOTE(kllonely1 @ Jun 15 2009, 10:19 PM)
Adding this and that, make minor improvements.
Avanza is NOT Grand Livina - it does not drives like a sedan, Do NOT expect to change that with modding.
I drives a 1.3 Avanza and I have friends that makes changes like those and honestly only minor improvement.
If your Avanza only carries 2 people including you, expect it to bounce "like a rabbit" on the highway.

Avanza is not 100% built like a MPV, it does have the characteristic but its suspension is that of a van/lorry.
It was the cheapest 7 seater MPV around at that time, very soon to be challenge by Perodua MPV.

Ask you father/parent to trade it in for the Perodua MPV.
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so when is the perodua mpv coming to market ? how much ? but for the perodua mpv only 1.5 right, underpower ? smaller than avanza ?
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Dear TS, itu van design for comfort, family car / picnic etc. so i recommended drive below 110kmh. dont speeding too much like caldina. tongue.gif
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Buddy,
Suspension does the trick. There are options posted here from cheap to expensive.

Cheapest: Get a mechanic to replace your stock shock fluid with thicker suspension fluid.
Next: Change to stiffer aftermarket shocks front and rear.
Next: Full set suspension spring and shocks front and rear.
Next: Add stabilizer bar and tower struts for cornering stability...

Hope this helps.
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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jun 15 2009, 06:59 PM)
but sometime i drive, cannot tahan.....
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when u drive, dun drive so fast lo
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I think you guys misinterpret his problem. I think what he actually meant was not about stability/comfort in cornering. His main problem is the bumpiness felt when driving the car alone or with his GF.. hehe.
A lot of people actually complained about avanza being bumpy.. well... I agree as well that there isn't really a real solution to it.. you need weight to counter the bumpy..

here's a cheaper way to solve your problem.. mayb you load your mom's old washing machine in the back of the avanza.. then go for a spin.. should cut down some of the bumpy issue? lol laugh.gif

do remember to fasten the washing machine to the car though.. would'nt want the washing machine to be a pinball inside the car when you bump..

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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jun 15 2009, 11:06 AM)
how much for the APM ?
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100+ for the rear
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300+ for the front
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QUOTE(jojo_g2 @ Jun 16 2009, 01:21 PM)
I think you guys misinterpret his problem. I think what he actually meant was not about stability/comfort in cornering. His main problem is the bumpiness felt when driving the car alone or with his GF.. hehe. 
A lot of people actually complained about avanza being bumpy.. well... I agree as well that there isn't really a real solution to it.. you need weight to counter the bumpy..

here's a cheaper way to solve your problem.. mayb you load your mom's old washing machine in the back of the avanza.. then  go for a spin.. should cut down some of the bumpy issue? lol laugh.gif

do remember to fasten the washing machine to the car though.. would'nt want the washing machine to be a pinball inside the car when you bump..
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If not mistaken the avanza is using leaf spring at the rear? That bumpiness is common issue lah cos its meant to carry stuff, as in designed for load and not so much priority is given to comfort tongue.gif

Stuff people do can range from taking out a leaf from the spring ...
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QUOTE(jojo_g2 @ Jun 16 2009, 02:21 PM)
I think you guys misinterpret his problem. I think what he actually meant was not about stability/comfort in cornering. His main problem is the bumpiness felt when driving the car alone or with his GF.. hehe. 
A lot of people actually complained about avanza being bumpy.. well... I agree as well that there isn't really a real solution to it.. you need weight to counter the bumpy..

here's a cheaper way to solve your problem.. mayb you load your mom's old washing machine in the back of the avanza.. then  go for a spin.. should cut down some of the bumpy issue? lol laugh.gif

do remember to fasten the washing machine to the car though.. would'nt want the washing machine to be a pinball inside the car when you bump..
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his title written there " How to make avanza more stable ? "

he himself misleading us , moreover , once u change to lowered springs and shocks it will give you "firm" feeling , you want to get rid of "jump like rabbit" feel then you have to change to stiffer spring of course... common sense smile.gif
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QUOTE(milkyway @ Jun 16 2009, 12:21 AM)
Dear TS, itu van design for comfort, family car / picnic etc. so i recommended drive below 110kmh. dont speeding too much like caldina.  tongue.gif
just my 2 yen.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 16 2009, 01:27 AM)
when u drive, dun drive so fast lo
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slow only....when reach 80 km/h, the rpm already in 3000. i didnt drive more than 3000 rpm...max for me is 3000 rpm.....so 3000rpm is 80 kmh.
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The Perodua MPV is expected in Nov 2009 but there are some that said Sep 2009. The price is below S70000, some put it at $66000.
From the pictures I had seen, it is a stiff challange to Exora.
It is smaller than Exora, some said Avanza size with a 1.5cc engine.

Search the web for the pictures and you would like it.
Do mot spend your money on changing Avanza parts, same it for Perodua MPV.
When we buy a car, it should be what we expect and not trying changing it to something else.
You know what I mean if you see those people who tried to change the Wira into Evo.
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QUOTE(kllonely1 @ Jun 18 2009, 09:17 AM)
The Perodua MPV is expected in Nov 2009 but there are some that said Sep 2009. The price is below S70000, some put it at $66000.
From the pictures I had seen, it is a stiff challange to Exora.
It is smaller than Exora, some said Avanza size with a 1.5cc engine.

Search the web for the pictures and you would like it.
Do mot spend your money on changing Avanza parts, same it for Perodua MPV.
When we buy a car, it should be what we expect and not trying changing it to something else.
You know what I mean if you see those people who tried to change the Wira into Evo.
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Well just ask your parents, Perodua MPV or Toyota Vios.
Since the Avanza belongs to them, they have the final say.
There is a reason for them to get Avanza in the first place.


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you guys know for avanza manual, first batch with the rims cap, how many inch for the alloy rims ? and how many pcd ? 15'inch pcd 100 6 1/2jj 35 , can fit into avanza ?

 

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