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> [SOLVED] zer0hour, REFUNDED 16/11/09

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post Aug 20 2009, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(faizal87 @ Aug 20 2009, 07:05 PM)
so what da update news guys?
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Waiting for Tribunal hearing.


Added on September 17, 2009, 12:42 pmUPDATE, 17 Sept 2009
After 3 times postponed, finally the Consumer Claim Tribunal declared that I won the case and will be awarded RM2050 within 14 days.
I will close the case right after receiving the fund.

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post Sep 17 2009, 12:42 PM

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UPDATE, 17 Sept 2009
After 3 times postponed, finally the Consumer Claim Tribunal declared that I won the case and will be awarded RM2050 within 14 days.
I will close the case right after receiving the fund.
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post Sep 17 2009, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Sep 17 2009, 02:14 PM)
well congrats on having a solution to this case finally.But still it remains a mystery?
So if similar case can apply to the same resolution?
How does this tribunal work? do u or the accused need to attend to a court?
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Yes, it has to be attended by both parties.
What had happen to the iPhone is still remain a mystery.
GDex still insisted that they didn't pickup the phone & rejected the courier slip as a proof of postage cos there was no employee number of the pickup guy written on slip. And so the tracking code is remain invalid. hmm.gif
This case has been leaked to the media. Damn it i was crowded by these reporters during the hearing. Interviewed & photographed somemore.
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post Sep 17 2009, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Sep 17 2009, 08:10 PM)
wow so serious ar?reporter and others?is there any chance this case appear in the newspaper column?  laugh.gif
dam if it happen to me dunno how to consult such a tribunal hearing.But afaik there's tribunal also here.
reporting some complaint as well in newspaper.
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I also duno how & why this case is followed by these female Chinese paper reporters but they just told me that this case is very interesting (hmmm). Maybe I am too hansem laugh.gif

QUOTE(w7x @ Sep 17 2009, 10:26 PM)
hope u get ur refund soon .... any legal action taked?
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Let's see how it goes within 14 days notice given to zer0hour.
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post Sep 17 2009, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(lingloong @ Sep 17 2009, 11:06 PM)
Who is responsible to pay the sum of RM2050?  hmm.gif GDex or zerohour?
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This one I'm gonna claim from zer0hour and zer0hour gonna claim from GDex.
Due to some reason GDex will only liaise with its customer.
Should zer0hour file a complaint to Tribunal? Why he didn't do so but seek police report instead?
Anyway, this is consumer issue and I dont treat zer0hour as a criminal. nod.gif

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post Sep 17 2009, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(lingloong @ Sep 17 2009, 11:19 PM)
Walao really confusing & "mafan"  rclxub.gif Then it will take another round again for zerohour to get back his part of compensation from GDex smile.gif Don't think those big company would let go this easily as per mention earlier and insisted that they are not responsible for the parcel due to the invalid tracking  sweat.gif
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No lah.. In this case. Since it is between zer0hour and me. It doesn't involve deal between me and GDex directly.
zer0hour has been ordered to refund me within 14 days.
I just think that zer0hour can do his part by file a complaint to Tribunal against GDex for refund.
As I didn't see the police is doing their job anyway.

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post Sep 18 2009, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Sep 18 2009, 01:13 PM)
today i saw u in newspaper... court claimed that zerohour must refund within 14 days... hooray...
you take 1 step further in our forum lowyat net....
btw bro is it u get detail from bank then lodge report in police after that bring in to court?
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Which newspaper is that? I only read The Star daily. Can upload pic here?
I didn't lodge police report, it was lodged by zer0hour.
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post Sep 18 2009, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Sep 18 2009, 11:01 PM)
hoho that day u wear spec n wear white shirt,,,, nice computer engineer. But how come zerohour lodged report then end up din turn out in court?
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Lols I saw the paper liao. Many mislead info there as they're just amateur reporters.
zer0hour requested to postpone the hearing 3 times already but end up didn't attend the Tribunal court.
Last week he postpone due to car accident, the Judge requested for MC & proof of car accident. That time I attended for the 1st time. Wasted my annual leave and time. The fax they received was already too late for me..

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post Sep 19 2009, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Sep 19 2009, 08:21 AM)
btw bro, i really confuse (actually lazy to read previous post) y zerohour will lodged report? then who go to consumer tribunal 1st? u or zerohour? mmm.... because i feel that this is a guideline for all of us around here... previously forumer's always get lodged report then get detail from bank then straight away find for the CON MAN... but now u take 1 step further in forum here..
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It was like this bro...
zer0hour lodged police report against GDex as they claimed didn't do pickup on that day, thus no compensation for the lost parcel.
zer0hour didn't run away from me, in fact he provided me his personal details.
He doesn't sound a conman to me but just duno how to fight against GDex.
I filed complaint to tribunal & zer0hour agreed to seek judgment from the court.
zer0hour didn't appear at the court.

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post Sep 19 2009, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Sep 19 2009, 10:51 AM)
and didnt appear at court about 3 times if I read correctly? rclxub.gif
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Yes, 3 times.
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post Sep 21 2009, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Sep 21 2009, 07:10 PM)
i saw to many cases involved this seller... im also one of the buyer who deal with him and facing same prob, now waiting from poslaju to reply... not sure but from what i saw the seller declare the value on the parcel slip is the cause my case happend. he declare item inside worth rm2k, but not ansurance it... so from the beginning is ts fault, and in my cse what ever happend ts musp pay me full amount of cash cause it his mistake form vary first
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So ur parcel lost and didn't get compensate until now?
I've pmed u several times already but u ignore me sweat.gif
Mind to share in what sense of reply r u waiting from poslaju atm...
i heard ur case happened long2 time ago. there's a deal in ur successful tradelist though...
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post Sep 28 2009, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Sep 28 2009, 04:24 AM)
maybe it happend like my case, sender declared value of  the parcel, but not ansuranced it... staff in the courier company realize that and took chance to take item inside coz he know no ansuranced... sender just can claim max rm300...
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So did u get the RM300 as compensate for the loss?
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post Oct 5 2009, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(thteong82 @ Oct 5 2009, 10:31 AM)
Sorry for bumping this thread. Did Zerohour compensate back the money to you?

Just want to know whether CAP court got the "power".
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Nope I still din get refund from zer0 yet.
On last Friday Tribunal asked me whether he refund me or not.
They sent a 2nd reminder to zer0 right after that.
I dun think zer0 is a negotiable person since last time he repeated continuously that he wont refund me & challenged me to Tribunal & will see what is the outcome then. Now I won the case & he disappears.
All I can do the next step is contact Tribunal only. Let see how their response.
I also would like to see how powerful is the Tribunal
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post Oct 6 2009, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(zer0hour @ Oct 6 2009, 03:36 PM)
I'm back.

As previously stated, I was in an accident, and was away for some time. Today is the first time I have had any updates at all, so this is new to me.

Owikh:
1. I have not received any mail from the tribunal since I requested for a postponement due to the accident.
2. If as you say they rescheduled the hearing (without my knowledge) and judged in your favor (due to my absence) is there a written judgment? If there is, I have not received it. It's only fair that I be sent the black and white.
3. If there is a written judgment, I will either refund or seek judicial review as necessary, depending on reasons spelled out in the written judgment.
4. I'm not a 'non-negotiable person'. If the findings are that I was contractually liable for safe delivery to you, and not just to the courier, then I will refund you.
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Pls check your yahoo mail bro.
Attached here is a copy of the declaration from Tribunal.
But I will also request Tribunal to send you a hard copy as if required.
You may contact them at 03-78777009 & the ref. no. is TTPM-P-(B)-241-2009.
Attached File  B8_TTPM_P__B__241_2009_418812449QD0TR1_1.doc ( 30k ) Number of downloads: 194

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post Oct 7 2009, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(zer0hour @ Oct 6 2009, 10:13 PM)
Bro thanks for the info, I've replied your PM as well. I've seriously received zero documents since the 2nd adjournment, none via email as well.
As for the hard copy, yes, I do feel I need it. A binding court order should be signed and stamped by the presiding authority no?
Also there's the issue of informal vs formal channels, this is an informal channel, binding orders must come via formal channels..

In the meantime, as this is a civil case and we are working through the legal system, will you do me the courtesy of removing my personal information?
You have my contact info, hp no etc in any case should you need to reach me.
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Requested an original hard copy of Award from Tribunal today & sent the defendant copy (with signed & stamped by Tribunal) to you just now by registered post (Pos Daftar Akuan Terima)
Again, send me the proof of receipt card to me once u received it.
You must refund me within 14 days from the day you receive it. nod.gif
Legal action will be taken if you failed to do so. It is written in the 4-page Award.
You will be categorized as criminal under Consumer Protection Act (APP) 1999 as follows:

1) Section 117 (1) APP
1st Crime: fined not more than RM5000 or jailed not more than 2 years or both.

2) Section 117 (2) APP
Continuous Crime: penalty as above & further fined not more than RM1000 daily

I promise that your personal details will be removed from this thread once I got ur refund of RM2050.
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post Oct 24 2009, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Oct 24 2009, 05:18 PM)
Is it already 14 days from the date u posted there?

Did zero get the letter?
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Yupe, he already got the letter, but still doesn't wanna refund. sweat.gif
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post Nov 10 2009, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(thteong82 @ Nov 10 2009, 11:56 AM)
It's has been 14 days since Zerohour last posted here.
So what is the outcome from his legal advisor?
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According to zer0hour he had sent a cheque for RM2050 to me on 4th Nov morning.
But until now I didn't see the cheque & no reply from zer0hour when I asked him about how did he send the cheque.
Looks like he wanna make me drag the case to civil court soon.
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post Nov 12 2009, 06:54 PM

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I'm waiting for the cheque by slow registered mail sweat.gif
I will see what can I do next. brows.gif

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post Nov 13 2009, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Nov 13 2009, 08:34 PM)
izzit registered mail with some sort of tracking?
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Yes, it's traceable but in this case zer0 didn't provide me the tracking code sweat.gif
Previously I also sent the documents to zer0 by reg post it was under the procedure of Consumer Tribunal
So slow this reg pork
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post Nov 16 2009, 08:19 PM

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After a long run of this case since early June 2009, finally today 16 Nov 2009 zer0hour refunded me full amount of RM2050 via Maybank2U.
Thank you zer0hour & this case has been settled now.
I sincerely wish to thank all LYNers for all your supports & assistance in solving this case. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
Back to business! biggrin.gif

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