The Viper was released long long ago, even before the original Diamondback, being Razer's first optical mouse.

Back then it was Razer's flagship mouse, for a while at least, until the super successful Diamondback was released.

I don't think that will ever happen. The DeathAdder does not have Razer Synapse, so you can't save your profiles into it. Period.

The Mamba is very similar in feel to the Deathadder.

Seriously if you don't use high DPI (and feel that the DeathAdder is too slow for you) there is no reason to get the Mamba other that bragging rights.

And I remember you complaining just a few weeks ago about 1800DPI being too fast for you.

As for the polling rate, DA, CH, Lachesis all have similar 1000hz as with the Mamba. And there really isn't much use of it. Most people just leave it at the default 500hz anyway.

Razer Synapse, Lachesis and Copperhead has it too. And I'm assuming you want that feature for going CCs and such. Believe me the Mamba is not very portable. The charging dock is pretty bulky. You'll end up leaving it at home and use it as a wired mouse instead. And then it'll be similar to your DA again. Almost no one will notice that you're using a Mamba then.

Plus you have to remember it is a little surface sensitive. You'll need a good hard mat with it and that'll increase the amount you have to pay to RM550-600.

If you get the Destructor, it comes with a huge carrying case. Another big thing you'll have to carry to CCs. And if you do, it will attract a lot of attention to yourself. If you're not really that good of a gamer, it would be embarassing.

That's not going to happen. They don't even sell those things separately.

It is absurd to say that the Mamba packaging costs them 20USD. Maybe RM20, but even that is a stretch.

As I've said before, when you want to market something as high end as this, you want it to have that extra sparkle, and the fancy packaging gives it just that.

You can use the Mamba in wired mode even without the battery attached.

Using the Mamba in wired mode is hardly optimal, as it has a very hard, braided cable, unlike Razer's normal light cables.

With Razer's usual cables, you hardly feel any restrictions from it at all (given that you have good cable management). With the Mamba's braided cables though, you will definitely feel the cable pull and restrict fast movements.

Anyone here using Windows 7 RC?

Do Razer drivers work on them?

I'll be running Windows 7 RC 64bit in my new rig. At least until it gets released.

This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 21 2009, 10:53 PM

Alright thanks guys. Just wanted to make sure. Been using XP all this while. Really looking forward to the new rig, with Lycosa Mirror and Mako =p

This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 22 2009, 12:06 AM

I couldn't use firmware V1.07 for my Mamba. The driver somehow reduces the mouse's low speed sensitivity to mask the jittering problem.

For me it gets really annoying when I try sniping at high DPI (sometimes I have no time to drop to lower DPI), when giving small, slow input, the mouse reacts weirdly, no where near as precise as it was before the update.

Try making very slow, small, but accurate movements either in Windows or in-game, see if the response is ok with you. For me I got a jerky response, which I could not stand.

Installed V1.06 after that, and now it performs as it should again - perfectly.

But I do have heard of people preferring the V1.07 response, so it's up to you.

Razer released both V1.06 and V1.07 at the same time, so it's up to users to choose which one they like more.

This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 23 2009, 03:51 PM

I game at 2000-3200DPI, depending on the game, and drop down to lower settings while sniping (I've never done this with any other mouse before, but the Mamba's DPI change buttons are so easy to use).

For use in Windows it depends on the monitor size. On my laptop, 17" 1920x1200 resolution, I use 2000DPI, and desktop, 24" 1920x1080 I use 2800DPI.

I've tried the Mamba on the Destructor, and both sides of the eXactMat (albeit a worn out one). It definitely feels better on the Destructor.

And the price difference between the Destructor and eXactMat is not that big, ~RM135 compared to ~RM95.

This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 24 2009, 11:36 AM

Yeah for me it's fine. Like for every game I find my favourite DPI level (one that I'm most comfortable with), and set it into the Mamba profile driver so that everytime I start that particular game, I'll get that DPI.

Obviously you play different games differently, and the speed/response you want changes between games. So I find one DPI setting for each game. No adapting required.


Haha depends on which price you use as your baseline la. The Destructor is 50% more expensive than the eXactMat. But the eXactMat is only 30% cheaper than the Destructor.

And I'm pretty sure both pads can solve the jittering problem for you, but do try out how good the mouse feels on each pad. You'll be surprised by how much nicer it feels on the Destructor. Not just the Mamba, but any mouse in fact.

This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 24 2009, 12:04 PM

The Megalodon looks very tempting, especially since it comes with a hard carrying case.

If it's not more than RM550, I'll get it for sure.

BTW the control panel in the video is still attached to a part of its carrying case, it's not really as big as it looks.

The Mamba is, and forever will be a novelty item, not part of Razer's mainstream line of products. So it's doubtful that they will ever release it without the fancy packaging. Plus, being a novelty item, their profit margin will be quite high, regardless of the packaging costs.

I don't think any Mamba users will keep their mouse in the jewel case. It's bloody hard to open. Once it's out of the box, it's never going in it again. Well maybe sometimes, when you want to bring it while traveling. Tho the case is quite large.

This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 24 2009, 04:14 PM

Yeah I've tried it on my Goliathus Control Ed. Almost unusable.

But even the Lachesis worked horribly on the Goliathus Control Ed.

On a Mantis mat (similar to Goliathus Speed Ed) it was alright, thought the jittering was really annoying.

He meant a dedicated profile button on the bottom side of the mouse, like the ones on Copperhead, BSCE, and Lachesis.

And no, the Mamba doesn't have a dedicated profile switching button.

Mamba and Deathadder don't carry the same exact mouse feet do they? I've sent an email to Hyperglides regarding the availability of their Mamba feet, and here's the reply -

The White/Black is the colour of the mouse feet. Stock Mamba has black feet, while hyperglide only carry white ones.

Plus the Mamba has the Teflon O-Ring that the Deathadder obviously doesn't, so mouse feet sets between the two mice are not completely interchangeable.

Yeah I've heard some Mamba users saying that Deathadder feet fits their Mamba. Not a perfect fit, the indentations are shaped slightly differently, but it definitely fits, and it's usable.

For me I'll just wait till Hyperglide releases their Mamba-specific feet.

LOL such a "serious" problem..

Grow up mate, if you say it's your own money, you can do whatever you want with it.

No one uses 5600DPI on a regular basis. You can try to, but I believe you'll revert back to lower DPI after a while. Unless you just want to torture yourself solely for the sake of one-upmanship.

The Mamba is not just about its outrageously high DPI, people.

Yes you can charge it in wired mode. But for the first time, it's better to charge it while it's in off mode for about 3-6 hours.

This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 25 2009, 08:36 PM

Driver update - download the latest update from Razerzone and install it. The mouse doesn't even have to be connected.

Firmware update - download the latest update from Razerzone (either V1.06 or V1.07 now) and install it. Run the Firmware Updater and you will be given a list of instructions to follow (on screen). Just follow the guide exactly. The process will involve plugging the cable into the mouse and the charging dock, on separate occasions. It's quite a tedious process.

Dude, get the mouse first and then figure these things out.

This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 25 2009, 09:08 PM