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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V18, Hmmm...The heat of AMD..is on the way..

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post Jun 25 2009, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jun 25 2009, 02:32 AM)
I just read the last few pages and this thread is derailing into spam fest thread.

May I ask why? As this is a Post Count Enabled forum
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sorry bryanyeo.we will behave ourself after this.. i admit that i spam here..but most of the spam here it tech related. the "poison" thing also related to tech and most of them relate to amd... do fogive us


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post Jun 25 2009, 12:57 PM

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amd twkr...
i donno y the speed still in mystery..

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post Jun 25 2009, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 25 2009, 01:04 PM)
this came from readings and understanding of full of joys n happiness..
takes u years to master..

BSOD - NB/IMC related
Black screen - CPU related (now maybe not see - lol)
Log windows/crash - temperature related
POST/boot - RAM related
Stability - voltage related

so now.. copy n paste..
and dig some info..
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the NB..is it the Mobo NB or CPU NB? 8tvt..found some source of reading? i cant find the appropriate keyword to google..
my exp, crash is not temp related..often crash but i can guaranty its not the high temp..

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post Jun 25 2009, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 25 2009, 03:33 PM)
of course all of them are related.. but it's the main focus that can cause the prob..

normally at first stage i'll make sure my ram is capable of doing certain speed/timing with accurate voltage.. i'll make it as stable as stock speed..

then only play with HTT and other voltages..

u need to understand ur setup.. especially the mobo.. some not convenience with certain HTT n dividers.. no one can tell unless u tried..

for the second step i'll push the mobo to the limit..
with all the variables.. only then can seek the true potential of ur proc..

if some how or rather u stuck to which part to tweak and boost the performance.. just check on the list below sort with priority:
(as some cpu came with different mul n potential)
- CPU frequency
- IMC frequency
- Memory frequency
- HT Link frequency
- HTT frequency

just remember that HTT Link Freq =< NB Freq

u will find the arts where the high value/clock in amd gain no benefit later..
amd created their proc for being efficient.. high clock (not cpu clock) doesn't mean good..
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haiya..still noob.where can i find this? is it the cpu nb? if cpu nb..so i have no worries then... old k8..cant adjust the cpu nb..
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post Jun 25 2009, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(tedisgodlike @ Jun 25 2009, 09:01 PM)
hmm this one ok tak?
bus speed rilek dulu... laugh.gif

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still my temperature  rolleyes.gif

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boss..can show us the tmpin0 1 2 to us?

i think aa mruzian... if u go for more vcore, not good if 24/7..if benchmarking shud be ok


Added on June 25, 2009, 9:20 pmer...anyone can teach me oc a ram? heheh...gamers maniac bling2 fall in my hand..
the one that i still blur2 is jedec and epp at cpuz memory tab.. sweat.gif

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post Jun 25 2009, 09:44 PM

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here
tmpin0 is my cpu...
tmpin 2 is my mobo nb
and tmpin 1 left unknown..
but i donno about ur mobo..which tmpin refer to cpu temp..the core0 1 2 is the inner temp i assume..since my core0 1 will always get hotter reading compare to tmpin0..

u must have a temp reading prob then... 1.5v for such a low temp..what cooler?

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post Jun 25 2009, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(tedisgodlike @ Jun 25 2009, 09:56 PM)
wat cooler??segan nak ckp> my DIY  lol? blush.gif
i already down the Vcore to 1.36 @ 3.2GHz
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no unlockin involved right? i suggest u to flash to latest bios or last known perfectly-worked bios..so the temp reading will not be messed up...

@where is otai2.. i want to ask alot.. mebbe only available during office hr only... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jun 26 2009, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(xcen @ Jun 26 2009, 06:31 AM)
Considering dual channel gives a negligible performance boost, is it ok for me to get 2gb + 1gb RAM? Does it impair overclocking (the CPU)performance?
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then u might want to consider xms2..since their kit have single and pair kit...buy the single one..later wan to add up buy another 1..
heheh

now stressing my ram
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any tips for me?
i donno y last night i cant get 840mhz 5-5-5-18-24 but 2day i can..with tighter timing.. unsuitable divider?
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post Jun 26 2009, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 26 2009, 08:43 AM)
u got the answer..

sometimes when u leave the advance ram timing in auto.. it will tight the timing..
thus can caused stability prob..
u need to manually set them better..

normally check the
PL
TRFC
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last night run at 667divider... but the basic timing i manually set it... the 5-5-5-X-X-2t timing manually set. other then that auto..
The cpuz tab did shows the JEDECblabla 333mhz...so i guess this ram suitable to run at 667divider..or im wrong?

PL and TRFC.. what is the common timing of it?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 26 2009, 09:54 AM)
u need to peek the memset..
timing depends on ram..
PL 10-15
TRFC 45-65

tight it more better..
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ok..understood...
8tvt..can u pls share wil me ur memset ss?

and.what is JEDEC and EPP actually?
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post Jun 26 2009, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jun 26 2009, 10:12 AM)
JEDEC timing is the standard timing set by the JEDEC.
While the EPP timing is the enhance performance setting that the manufacturer had tested can be use on that particular ram..
U want better timing use the EPP mode smile.gif
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so can just choose to set at JEDEC/ EPP or we need to tune the ram manually to reach the same clock/timing as the epp?
haiya... too noob for this... any other things to consider to ensure the ram stability other then vdimm?
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jun 26 2009, 10:26 AM)
Depends on the mobo, some mobo u can just select the EPP setting n everything will be done for u like my M DKA790GX Platinum..
But some mobo u can review the timing then u have to set it manually ah.. smile.gif
Other things to ensure ram stability is not to set the timing too tight ah..  hmm.gif
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ok..thanks for the explanation.. but ur DEAD mobo capable of it? nvm..set it manually more flexible i guess... no diff right?

thanks 8tvt.. i just want to refer the "normal" timings only.. and i wonder y my CL cant be set at memset..only at bios..
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jun 26 2009, 10:38 AM)
Miahahaha, not my dead mobo ler bro, my MSI mobo i used b4 this Biostar [RIP].. laugh.gif
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that is y i ask ur biostar can or not laugh.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 26 2009, 10:41 AM)
i never set it at windows.. just to view only..
all timings done @ bios..
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sometimes i set it in win when too lazy to reboot each time increase 1 clock..

anyone know how far the 2gb kit tracer can go? any rough figure...
anyway..if cant oc high also i dont mind..the bling2 is the main purpose..hehe
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 26 2009, 11:07 AM)
let's make more pening to decide...
n why some system.. less bandwidth is better..
for gaming system.. i would choose bigger bandwidth..

DDR 800
2.5ns each tick clock
CL 3
= 7.5 latency

DDR 800
2.5ns each tick clock
CL 4
= 10 latency

DDR 900
2.2ns each tick clock
CL 4
= 8.8 latency

DDR 950
2.1ns each tick clock
CL 4
= 8.4 latency

DDR 1000
2.0ns each tick clock
CL 4
= 8 latency

DDR 1000
2.0ns each tick clock
CL 5
= 10 latency

*note - no AL involve...
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what is AL?
that timing too tight for my ram..
right now don dare to increase the vdimm beyond 2.1..
the speed and timing i did refer to a guide thread here..so i quire understand how it works..

bro -pWs-
ur 10th anni can go for how far?
ddr1000 cl4 is impossible for me since my ram not d9... digswell said most prob is pormos..how to check the chipset actually?
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jun 26 2009, 11:59 AM)
Check on your black square o rectangular chipset. smile.gif
Erm.. Nvr try much on Intel rig. doh.gif doh.gif
Naissssssssss  wub.gif

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all 8 or 16 ram chip ka? all of them have what chipset printed on it ? cuz my value one only can see "KINGSTON" and "AENON" and other small2 blur words..
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jun 26 2009, 04:16 PM)
Most of the newer KVR's are already relabled.. Can't really know the exact producer sweat.gif
Dulu-dulu u can easily recognize micron's from promos from samsung's.. doh.gif
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performance ram still state the chip used or also been relabelled? since i peek at toms hw..some ram they put chipset: n/a

QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 26 2009, 04:46 PM)
where got 'mak enon' ram..
IIRC AENEON
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8tvt..memset 4.0 psl..my memset not same as urs..cant compare and refer..or amd and intel have diff memset gui?
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dont dare to stress yet...
will stress after post this..

ventri..some said modular make it harder to manage..because the cable cant bend from the root..and also the cable comes out from entire psu..u get what i mean? if non-modular, all the cable out at one hole only..
and non modular..u will have the fun and satisfaction of sorok2 the wires..hehehe
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Jun 26 2009, 07:03 PM)
MAL set to 8ns
tRAS 11
tRC 15

layout for intel vs amd totally different eventhough same version.
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max asynchrone latency ya? so i loosen abit?
ok..will..

but tras and trc will tighten later..since both quite easy to tweak..
and i just failed at 1min large prime...
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sis xixo..share me ur memset ss pls.. as a reference
stressing at MAL8ns and any other timing same... 880mhz
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Jun 26 2009, 07:09 PM)
what is the vdimm now?
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2.1v only.. dont want to rape it..hehe.. if not, will miss the bling2
and sis...MAL cant be set in bios la..my bios lack of that mal

QUOTE(gamers maniac @ Jun 26 2009, 07:13 PM)
dont whack that fella kaw2  sweat.gif . hehe

btw before that ram going rma i have oc that tracer ddr1150 5.5.5.15 4gig [2kits] @ 2.15v with active cooling.

but in intel platform lah  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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dont worry..a noob donno how to oc kaw2... btw my board is lack of 0.05v vdimm increament..

just failed 880mhz 4-4-4-bla-bla....
1min only

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