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 Starcraft 2 V2, Releasing on 27th of July 2010 :D

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fujkenasai
post Jun 27 2009, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(maxburnz @ Jun 27 2009, 05:20 AM)
like waiting for diablo 3...dem..
another one when someone waiting for new warcraft 4...must be a long long time from now on..
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For diablo 3 disscussion please go to the diablo 3 thread, if you want to talk bout warcraft 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 go start you own warcraft thread.
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post Jun 27 2009, 11:43 AM

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People just like to come in and spam stupid messages like these....
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post Jun 30 2009, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jun 30 2009, 09:37 AM)
Not many ppl are willing to purchase a game just to play it in a cyber cafe (Which you already have to pay to use)

Let's not forget there's the whole "OMG DRM!" backlash that is currently surging through the Internet so it could possibly impact the sales somewhat.
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I think this might make SC2 not as popular as the original SC, making that step not being able to have LAN in SC2 is a bad move especially for countries like us which do not have stable internet connection. However I think they should make steps to kill pirated servers like Gayrena or make bnet duplication much harder. When it comes to making bnet as good as steam I have strong faith in blizzard for that as bnet have a strong back bone and support. Bnet was before steam and it was much more stable than steam I do not think that in the future that it will be any less than steam. However I hope that buying games from bnet 2.0 will have to be going through blizzard's stupid torrent, I never manage to be able to get it to work I wonder why they cant do a normal torrent for it and have a DRM protection for it.
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post Jun 30 2009, 12:19 PM

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Too bad for LAN parties in the future no SC2 or you have to create your own crack server just to play on LAN. sad.gif
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post Jun 30 2009, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 30 2009, 12:33 PM)
Yar, after thinking more true SC1 was pretty famous for the LAN parties and it could hurt the longevity of the game in the long run.
Well, it could still change but I am sure pirate will find a way to use it in Lan so if Blizz is smart they would actually create their own support for it to make people more willing to buy original
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I hope that the LAN thing will be a one time activation or concurrent detection for every updates.
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post Jul 1 2009, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jul 1 2009, 09:08 AM)
Is it really that hard these days? Just get a router which is hooked to the internet, connect hubs/switches to said router and voila! Everyone has Internet access already.

10 years ago, not everyone could afford routers and switches, but now, they're more common than Vista *rimshot*
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Then it will be a debate on the accessibility of internet.......
I still do not think that internet is that accessible in Malaysia in particular especially for small LAN parties. I've been to a few LAN parties in Malaysia and in Aus that does not have internet access.

I guess it still uncertain that how blizzard is going to implement it, and discussion here are based on speculation.

QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Jul 1 2009, 09:55 AM)
Hmm if you do LAN at your friends' places, normally he got a wireless router with TM Nut access anyways. Very cheap so no issue there.

I'm only afraid the requirements will cause us to abandon our favorite CCs. It is very easy take the high moral road and say it is the CC's fault to not have originals + internet access, no one can argue with that. It still sucks a bit I guess.
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That is assuming that atleast one friend is going to suscribe to wireless internet.

Making Bnet the only way to patch your SC2 would be one good way to eliminate piracy, cause the person that does not have original CD-keys will not be able to join in the LAN and only able to play with private servers and hamachi which does not include the new upgrades balances and bug fixes......

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post Jul 1 2009, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Jul 1 2009, 10:45 AM)
Yes. People like us have LAN sessions with colleagues when on overseas assignments. It is fairly hard to procure internet access on these situations.
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Well there you go when you have a few people with Laptop with original SC installed you can already play SC multilayer but now you need a internet connection with SC2.

QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jul 1 2009, 10:47 AM)
*sigh*

This doesn't mean there's no LAN play AT ALL... Just that you need an internet connection. Even now if you were to initiate a match in Battle.net for Warcraft 3, if you were matched up with ppl over LAN, in essence, it becomes a LAN only game since its p2p based connections. Its common sense.

All this means is that you just need to be connected to Battle.net to make that connection. Basically, this weeds out the pirates.

PS. Isn't this basically the same as a "call home all the time" service?
How often do we have LAN parties in Malaysia? The kind where a giant warehouse is rented and 100+ ppl attend and Internet access may be unavailable?

Most LAN parties here are done in someone's house or in a cafe... Most of which come with Internet access.


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:50 am
Fair enough... But you have to admit that this is a fairly uncommon scenario... unlike the more common scenario of pirates playing on LAN or Hamachi.
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Not having LAN does not mean that it will weed out piracy look at all the pirated servers around that replaces the online only features...........

In most case senario we have LAN parties in homes that either just moved in or holiday houses that do not have internet connection so that it does not bother other family members or have too much furniture. In those cases those places do not have internet connection. In those scenario SC2 multiplayer will not be an option.


It all concludes to:
Blizzard excluding LAN in SC2 will just make it much more inconvenient for people who purchase SC2 to play multiplayer. Simple as that.

DAMN YOU PIRATES.
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jul 1 2009, 11:16 AM)
One thing that is not perfectly clear for me is:

Ok, you need to logon to Bnet to play LAN, let's live with it, let's take the case where you do have an internet connection, everyone has an original, all good.

Once you start playing, are the packets going to stay on your local network or do they need to go through Bnet as well?
I know that if they do go through Bnet then it's not really a LAN anymore but now I am really wondering how it will work.

I do think it's high chance it's going to stay on the local network but then what exactly stop people to use the same copy and logon one at a time, then unplug the net and use the LAN.

I dunno, I still find that system a hassle for legit users while I am sure the pirated version will have a way to play LAN without requiring Bnet
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All these DRM thingy always makes it a hassle for people who buys original copy. poor us.


Added on July 1, 2009, 11:35 am
QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jul 1 2009, 11:06 AM)
Again, its an uncommon scenario (How often are you going to conduct a LAN party at someone's house who just moved in?)

Might as well complain that SC2 doesn't have a modem to modem direct dialing connection mode... THINK ABOUT THE DIALUP USERS PLEASE!

Its not that big an inconvenience.
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The more common scenario is that I want to play SC2 between the 3 coms in my house when my friends visits and suddenly I cant connect to shitmyx. vmad.gif

QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jul 1 2009, 11:19 AM)
In Warcraft 3, in a Battle.net game, all clients on the same LAN would be matched as such. So, if they're using the same system it would mean that its LAN based in execution.

You could argue that all this does is make legit customers jump through hoops while the pirates can play hassle free (Ironic ain't it?)... Assuming of course the game is easily crackable that is.
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Thats the irony of PC gaming thesedays, but if piracy isnt hurting developers profit so much this might not occur. I can see that blizzard is also eliminating the probability that one copy being played among a few computers at home.

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post Jul 1 2009, 01:03 PM

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ok sorry bout that........
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post Jul 2 2009, 12:06 PM

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Errr there are much more debate on this LAN issue on the official battle.net forum in the StarCraft II General Discussion section. Again and again its the debate of the poison or the cancer. Too tired to disscuss LAN or not I'll still buy just hope there is thats all.
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post Jul 3 2009, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(komputer @ Jul 3 2009, 08:27 AM)
Orange box is RM35 on steam?!?
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Please stay on topic this is not a HL thread.
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post Jul 3 2009, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(radkliler @ Jul 3 2009, 11:08 AM)
Unfortunately...those that make the game popular are pirates....and they influence others may resort to piracy as well.

So, depending on the mindset on those that they influenced, it may be a good thing ( those being influenced will get ori copies) or a very bad thing (mass torrent ppl LULZ).

In the end, I'm fine with no LAN anyways...since I only have one rig in my house capable of running games and I'm always connected to the internet unless Streamyx decides otherwise
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Mass torrenting is still ok, the worst case scenario are those bluddy chinks Ftard that pirate the game host it on their site make their own cheapo LAN server and collect money monthly from advertisers like the blizzard games are rightfully theirs. vmad.gif mad.gif

Thats what made blizzard make this move I think cos ori-blizzard games are already dirt cheap in china and they still get this in return. After reading whats happening in china I think blizzard have to make this move.
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post Jul 8 2009, 06:06 PM

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Dind know protoss carrier have a main laser beam.

Didn know that there are zergs working in tractor media. laugh.gif

http://www.tractormedia.ro/artists_Armored...php?language=Ze

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post Jul 8 2009, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jul 8 2009, 07:16 PM)
Well, it was explained by StarCraft Legacy that "this carrier with laser beam" was inspired from the official StarCraft II Carrier website:
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Ahh damn in the last protoss mission of starcraft vanila I controlled that carrier but no laser beam. cry.gif cry.gif
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post Jul 8 2009, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Jul 8 2009, 07:26 PM)
Carriers are used occasionally against terran but definitely not against zerg in SC1 pro-level. Wonder how did it work out in the real story against zerg though  biggrin.gif
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Against well microed zergs carriers get slaughtered with scrounges.
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post Jul 8 2009, 11:49 PM

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If the game is like the cinematics then you all will complain that its imba.
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post Jul 9 2009, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Hejime @ Jul 9 2009, 11:42 AM)
true but when several high templars comes in and spam hallucination onto the carriers and cast those lightnings (forgot the name)

it becomes a hell of irritation  biggrin.gif

cool beam...

at least finally they've figured out that the core in the middle of the carrier can be used for something other than those small fighters
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Protoss evolve and think slowly since they live for so long. laugh.gif
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post Jul 14 2009, 10:24 AM

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For those who did not read the previous thread I post it again once more.

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post Jul 15 2009, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(omnimech @ Jul 14 2009, 07:04 PM)
Depends. if the terrans made their base in the classic clump all the supply depot in 1 place.

plague would literally destroy a terran base. =D
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LoL thats noob build.
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post Aug 5 2009, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2009, 05:51 PM)
Yeah,thats what every gaming sites and online stores say.

If they dont release the Beta on the next 3 months,forget about end of the year release then.
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I think its almost written out loud that SC2 will be delayed till next year. They mentioned that SC2 beta will be out this summer and summer ends tomorrow or Aug 8 if you go by chinese solar term. They would never finish beta testing in 4 months time. My prediction is CNY. Since its always 6 months beta testing. We'll see if they release beta during blizzcon which is August 21 and 22.

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