Cheese list:

Zerg: 6 pool Zergling rush, baneling rush

protoss: proxy pylon rush, mothership rush

terran: reaper rush, bunker rush, proxy barracks, thor rush etc...

terran has a lot of rushing options... -.-

Thankyou for letting us know. BTW what server are we on west coast 1/2 east coast1?

I guess they are placed randomly also, like picking numbers or something like that.

Only zerg do not have the build everywhere options.

This post has been edited by fujkenasai: Apr 27 2010, 12:36 PM

protoss players, wan to know how u against terran's BC?

Warp rays

look up its stats then lol

u seemed to think cheese = rush...
cheese = throwing ur mid/late game into a early game trying to win straight up...

Zerg: spine crawlers (bring 3 drone 1 queen = using a drone for hatch -> cancel -> queen's creep)

Toss: 2 gateway rush, voidrays (damn good vs zerg unless they go 3queens lol), cannon push (fast forge)

@ melvintcs
jz get high templar and feedback the BCs

dun have sc2 beta on this office computer la.

and my sc2 beta not updated yet.

tell me the stats yo.

hit points, attack dmg, etc.

http://www.livestream.com/striderdoom

I was voting for LZGamer to proceed with the next round in HDH Invitationals but he got knock off by a zerg player. Cheesie play by LZGamer using reaper rush on all 3 games, got countered and then GG

This post has been edited by XenoFr3ak: Apr 27 2010, 01:25 PM

yesterday i give up my warp rays and high templar, try to against it with lot of stalker and i lose
opponent got BC and reaper and marine only...
learn from mistake

reapers are horrible once ur timing are out/ u are scouted...
i'm not surprised...
using the same BO without a smooth transition if the cheese fails...

i'm supporting whitera and nony (whichever makes it to the final)...
nony's phoenix play is awesome!!!

sentries + HT would have blew up his army easily...
feedback + FF + storms...

Yea .. i agree that LZGamer shud not use the same tactics for the 2nd and 3rd game. Im a faithful Terran supporter n player. Hope at least 1 Terran player makes it.

the only terran left is CathunLuck >.<

the other word for it, during war3 days, would be teching.

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Added on April 27, 2010, 4:37 pmthe basic idea on going reaper is that, one should EXPECT to fail, and have contingency plannings to transition either to a classic MMM or a mechanized army

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Added on April 27, 2010, 4:38 pmsame tactic is ok if you're doing it well. cuz in the end you're playing a mind game in which, opponent expects you to go reaper, and plays a little defensively, and you may use that against him to your own advantage

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 27 2010, 04:38 PM

if u expect to fail, its not a cheese...
its a standard reaper BO with a transition...
a cheese > anything if it works/ pay off...
u gotta understand when u cheese n fail, u are already behind in the game...
that's y some ppl bring scv during cheese as well...

Yea .. my vote is on CauthunLuck now since he beaten another terran player.

reapers arent much of a tech considering its tier 1. you fail or succeed with it also, moving onwards to MMM isnt hard as you already have the barracks and all you need is a fac > starport for medivac

considering how fragile reapers can be, one musnt invest everything in them and expect to win games solely with them. hence my post earlier. once you have a good transition, so long you took out AT LEAST an equalvalent numbers of workers along with ur reapers, you're pretty much a head of the game already

true they are T1 but u forgot one thing...
for reapers to be effective, they have to be fast (around 10racks 11gas) which put u behind the worker count (minerals on buildings instead of quick SCV and SCV mining gas to be used on ur reapers) thus ur economy...
u gotta hope ur reaper does more than how ur investment...
having a reaper to kill a probe -> bad investment as u are not crippling his economy at all...
u can transition into MMMs but u have already lost so much momentum that ur opponent at this point (need to start building rax when ur resources was used for the first 2-3 reapers) could out macro u and steamroll you...
the whole reaper opening is too easy to counter now once they have scouted u...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Apr 27 2010, 06:39 PM

whats your new nick and id?

Thanks for this. It seems to help improve the latency a lot and make it playable. I have the beta for like 2 weeks and didn't play any online games because of lag but though I'm still with around 250 ms ping i guess connecting to the US server but I'm on the Europe server.

I connect to the Us west coast n play on a europe server, not really sure how the battle ping works but kinda felt the same latency in game though it was definitely higher ping connecting to the europe server than the us server.

If anyone is on europe server, add me up , protosssc.david