I thought that proton rejected previous petronas engine design bcos expensive to build manufaturing plant?Anyways Petronas make rnd on engine is it?or they take from other car manufacutrer 1..Also heard actualy the turbo is RnD with Lotus uk..

i think it will out somewhere in half year 2010

so i'll cross my finger and wait till 2010 Q3, hopefully new engine and Lancer rebadge will emerge.

not anymore. it was in 2006 they sign moi. both proton / petronas develop practical engine based on e01

This post has been edited by xshiro: May 27 2009, 04:07 PM

To save cost, maybe they will turbocharged the non-CPS since LPT can solve the torque dips at low rpm while the high rpm power is already quite good. And to turbocharged an engine with 'stages' like CPS (also VTEC and MIVEC) is not easy.

hopefully

anyway whats the benefit of having both cps and turbo?

This post has been edited by xshiro: May 27 2009, 04:31 PM

1.6 CPS turbocharged eh.....

Well, you can roughly guess the figures already within the Malaysian community with BOT Campro 1.6s

You will get the best of both world, high and low. LPT would solve the low-mid torque (boosts pickup) while CPS boost the mid-high torque giving you a steady climb to max speed. Theorically it is same as Mivec Turbo from Evo lol.

POWARRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

..................."TURBO SPOOLING PLEASE STANDBY"

I am amazed proton can actually introduce turbo into an engine with variable valve timing.It took BMW engineer the second try on their N-series turbo engine to mate both the Valvetronic technology with turbo on the newly released N55-turbo.Apparently its not cost effective to introduce both tech into the engine since the pumping loss from the exhaust valve can be conpensated by the higher pressured air being pumped into engine.

This post has been edited by 779364: May 27 2009, 05:43 PM

please dont misunderstand the last posts. we dont now yet. im just asking whats the benefit of having both.

still im also hoping proton could come up with cps turbo.

This post has been edited by xshiro: May 27 2009, 05:43 PM

I wasnt refering to ur post.I just gave my thoughts on this.Since Exora wont be sold in high volume,the cost benefit does not justify turbocharging the CPS.So I think they will turbo the Non-CPS Campro.

Maybe they will do it on the non CPS as starters and apply it to Exora while continue on the CPS and if suceeds, maybe Satria Neo will be first to receive CPS turbo.

from my reading here in the net/forum:
q4 2010 campro turbo
q2 2010 waja rep model
there are 1.8 & 2.0 (campro?), but not yet commercially available.

sigh..
when DSZ enters the web, less posts can be found from si-fu & 460...

Will Keep His Word Will Not Buy Exora Now. Lets Hope Its A BOT.

The Campro Turbo will be based on the regular Campro, not the Campro CPS.

BMW engineers found difficulty adding Valvetronic to the original N54 turbo not because of the turbocharger, but because of direct injection. This is why even the N53 direct injection non-turbo engines do not have Valvetronic. Even on the new MINI Cooper engine, the Cooper normally aspirated engine has Valvetronic but the Cooper S turbo engine adds direct injection and Valvetronic was removed.

Here is an imagination.

Imagine the Proton Exora, with turbo, zooms passes you with a "VROOO...PSSST"...sound...

How would u imagine that to be?

wasnt the E01 design and manufacturing rights sold to some china car company? i wept for the powerhouse when i read that on paultan's site a couple of years back.

in an LPT there is virtually no spooling lag. of course, as a tradeoff, boost isn't high, circa 0.3 to 0.5 bar stock.

proton should learn how to walk 1st then only run ...

which means they should implement 1.8 /2.0 engine before they bolt on the turbo on those engine..

just like airtrek & caldina ... both are 2.0 turbo ... not some god damn 1.6 BOT..

it doesnt matter which one first anyway
its cheaper and faster to gain performance. like golf gti

This post has been edited by xshiro: May 27 2009, 07:12 PM