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Business The Truth about Actuarial Science, It is not only about the Math

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Michael_Light
post Aug 7 2014, 08:44 PM

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I wonder is it a tradition for students to pass 4 ~ 5 papers before even graduating now a day. I have 2 seniors that passed 5 papers (Exam P,FM, MLC, MFE and C) within 3 years of undergraduate study, and a few that passed roughly 3 papers in 2 years. I am referring to UCSI university. I am curious about the actuarial development progress of local students from UM, UKM and UTAR. How many papers do we need to pass upon graduation to stay competitive? hmm.gif Please share some information if you are/were an actuarial science student. drool.gif
Michael_Light
post Jan 27 2016, 09:32 PM

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Actuarial field in Malaysia is flooded with actuarial graduates! Many of the student in Malaysia are still misled by the fantasy that actuarial science degree = qualified actuary = high pay salary which is not true. Many of my friend (local graduate) are struggling to get a permanent job in actuarial department in insurance field even with few papers on hand. Many ended up in risk management, finance or data analyst. Quite sad.

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Michael_Light
post Apr 10 2017, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(HweiYee @ Apr 10 2017, 04:33 PM)
Hi,

I'm currently waiting to be offered into either UM or UKM AS degree. Is it true that the syllabus in UM are more updated as compared to UKM? I'm not very sure about it but rumors had it that the syllabus in UKM are mostly syllabus in 90s and students have to put in comparatively more effort for the external papers.
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Currently Ukm gives 2 vee credit while UM gives 3 vee credit. However new syllabus is kicking in for SOA so not sure if this still relevant. Other than that, both degree is equally recognised in the industry, so just grab whichever you get. smile.gif
Michael_Light
post Apr 11 2017, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(HweiYee @ Apr 11 2017, 10:27 AM)
I see  hmm.gif What does it mean by VEE credit?

As far as I know, most Malaysian universities do provide VEE exemption from university subjects. So how does the credit works?
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VEE credit is part of requirement for you to obtain the Associate title other than exams, module etc. You will be granted exmption for VEE if you get certain grade for approved subject by SOA.
Michael_Light
post Apr 11 2017, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(evelynn_p @ Apr 11 2017, 09:35 PM)
Does actuary only working in insurance companies?
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The traditional field for actuaries are life and general insurance. Actuaries also work in bank, takaful, consultancy and so. Do note that not all people doing actuarial job are actuaries and vice versa.
Michael_Light
post Apr 12 2017, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(HweiYee @ Apr 12 2017, 09:09 AM)
According to your previous reply, you mentioned about UKM giving 2 VEE credit while UM 3 VEE credit. Does it mean that UKM grad would need to take another paper to get the other VEE credit while UM would get a full exemption from VEE?  :confused:
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VEE will only affect you when you want to obtain the ASA title. If you are short of VEE credit, then you must either go back to university to attend certain subject or take online course endorsed by soa which can cost up to 1k+- USD. Note that VEE is not exams but courses, they provide exposure for non-actuatial related stuff like economics, corporate finance etc.

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post Apr 13 2017, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Puting Vladimir @ Apr 12 2017, 10:24 PM)
is this course oversaturated already? can anyone confirm?because it was really popular and hype a few years ago
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This industry is saturated with entry level grads for Malaysia market. Most freshie struggle to get an entrance ticket for actuarial related job and have to take up non-actuarial position or many is offered contract position. However, IMHO experience staff with good paper progression is still well appreciated.

 

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