Hey all,

Anyone knows anything about migrating (from Malaysia) to the USA?
I know the condition is bad right now (bearish market, unemployment, pestilences, etc), but I am really considering migration as an option 5 or 10 years down the road.

There are the H1B visas, green cards, etc... Looks like there are various ways to work & live in the US (apart from entering as a student). I studied there for more than 3 years and absolutely loved the experience.

Appreciate if you could share your experience with me

i am currently doing some feasibility study on moving to Toronto

Don't wait dude. Do it now. There isn't much future in this country for "us" the non. And if you moved earlier you
will have the benefit of youth and time to integrate and forget all the crap that you have picked up here. Yes I am
moving to Australia very very soon only wish I had done it sooner. Betta later then never I guess.
Good luck. Godspeed.


cheers

Did you go through some kind of agency that makes the arrangement on your behalf?
Or did you figure the whole thing out yourself? How long was the whole process?
Hehe... sorry so many questions

"Migrating" to the US is not as simple as it sounds. The US is indeed a land of opportunity for many but they also have one of the strictest and conservative visa requirements.

H1-B is a working visa that allows skilled workers to work in the US. However, this highly competitive visa is sort after by many candidates each year (although 2009 was not filled). This visa needs to be applied by your employer, meaning you can only get this visa if you already have a job, and of course your employer is willing to file it for you.

Green card actually requires you to be staying in the US for a certain amount of time and is not the typical route one will take to work in the US.

Of course there is lottery as well, but that's a whole new story.

Migrate to US... I afraid U will kena bully by white ppl.. lol

The easiest way would be to get a close American relative to sponsor you.

Or enter as a student then look for a job there.

Or migrate to Canada/Mexico first. NAFTA agreement makes it easier for citizens of these two countries to enter US.

I'm not too sure on this one, but I believe that if you own a property in the US it's easier to get a migrant visa. Anyone able to confirm this?

EDIT:

Oh yeah, I forgot about another easy method. Marry an American!

This post has been edited by chrishung: May 21 2009, 02:31 PM

Is this pertaining to living there or working there?

Both. Needs to be direct family members I believe. The advantage of this is that you don't need a job first as required by most other methods of entry. Your family member needs to prove that they have the necessary funds (and willing) to support you in the US.

For more information visit this website http://www.uscis.gov

came together we migrate to Toronto, since 50% of people there is foreign born this is a good place for new comer. and seen like American also always threaten to move to canada when they see something no good about US

So what migration route are you taking?

I don't think so

Marry an American no longer can secure you an visa.
I saw some example before. They some more hire lawyer to settle the visa for them after they registered. But then still waiting...

try to find a job first, i uploaded resume on canada job site to test how hard it is for me to secure a job. also need research on rent, transport, food cost, tax, visa requirement.

try workopolis and monster.ca to see what job is available and payscale to see how much is the market rate, go to thestar.com to check on rent ...

workopolis is a good job site even got a boss button

the perfect scenario will be a company will hire me and help me to get work visa, them after that i can apply for PR, maybe need to get my uncle to sponsor me on that application also.

Anybody actually tried the H1-B route & tasted success?

Based on my understanding, US employers will fire H1B visa workers first.

If you are betting on H1B visa, you have to 'hope' for xxxx bubble, e.g. NASDAQ/property bubble II :-)

Since US social security is going to bankrupt in near future, in the next few years, I guess US government will turn the current US visa lottery (free) to US biz visa lottery, e.g. you have 1 million USD, you are in :-)

With this route, normally we will get an offer for an contract basic job and the pay is slightly lower than the job market.
Normally those good offer job they prefer citizen or PR.
It is apply to almost every country.

Yes, I know someone already in US with the world Largest Chip maker.

I have but I had an advantage of having a Masters from a US university so I qualify for the extra 20k visa allotment. The only way I got it done was by working first during my OPT then doing the H1-B. Getting an H1B will be hard if you've never seen your employer etc. My headhunter friend typically recommends a phone interview followed by a face to face interview (ie. you fly in at your own expense) after being prepped by the recruitment agency.

Also don't forget that the US have slightly different standards for resumes, interviews, dress code depending on industries etc. so if you've never worked in the US before it may be a culture shock.

Personally my advice is to go to Canada or Australia. If you really want to go to the US start with Canada first to familiarize yourself with the culture and then head over to the US.

It takes some time to migrate to Canada, almost 1.5 - 2 years for the process along with do you get past the points issue. There will be medical checks, and you need an invitation as well, along with the testing scheme. Its got a basis of you must get at least 70+ point to qualify, usually some people older don't reach 70 but qualify on their experience education as well. My Uncle and his family just migrated over to Canada last year. But the process took over 1.5 years. He considered himself lucky.

For the US you can go thru some agency, costs are between 10-20k USD. Depending on who does it from which state and which part of the US you want to migrate to.

Working Visa is heavily competitive, and also you need an employer. With the current situation of recession in the US, it will be damned difficult for you to get thru it and get in. Green Card is worse, with the new laws in the US, its quite hard to get one now adays unless you marry someone. But even marrying someone there are quite strict guidelines as people do that very often as well.

Sponsorship makes the process move faster, but its not exactly easy because of the CAnadians/Americans selling their status to China to marry a girl for 30k USD for 2-3 years to get a Green card or Canadian passport. They've really cracked down on that alot now.

I currently heard from friends in IT in Toronto, literally 1000s of jobs got chopped, so its quite cutthroat looking for a job for the moment.

I wish you the best of luck getting that perfect scenario.

This is 100% true, I have heard this so many times, H1B visa workers are the first to go before any US citizen has to lose their job.

i still looking into the job market, trying to see if there is opportunity available for senior unix administrator in Toronto.

as for the points since i have family in Canada if i can get prearranged employment my point will be 86. did you uncle apply for PR or citizenship?

i am more looking for work there for a while to see if it is a good place for me to stay

He went for the citizenship, he managed to get away with i think 58+. He has to stay for 3 years to get the citizenship and invest 300k RM into the economy. Close to 100k Cdn.

Try hitting up companies directly, maybe Microsoft, or ShawCable etc.

sorry bout posting this, but since we're on the topic of migration, is it hard to get a temporary work visa in australia?

This post has been edited by bpk16: May 21 2009, 11:55 PM

btw for the US green card, sponsorship if I remember correctly is only applicable to immediate family ie. brothers, sisters and parents.

US/Canadian its applicable to immediate family. Extended family not.

i was looking to the list of the top employee to see if anyone interested, unix admin working in Microsoft ? blasphemy

by they way you are in canada or malaysia?



This post has been edited by robertngo: May 21 2009, 11:34 PM

Canada?

If migrating to the US is like winning the 100m in the Olympics, then migrating to Canada is like coming last in the final race.

Haha and migrating to Australia would be the guy who got disqualified during the heats? But I'm seriously thinking about Australia...

While I like the US, there are many issues that make me pause when thinking about long term and for the family/kids. Education is bad in most cities, you need to go out to a suburb to get decent public schools or otherwise pay for private schools. Higher education is much better but it'll cost you. Healthcare is a mess. The one good thing is still the salaries which are some of the highest in the world.

I'm in Malaysia now, but I'm from Canada.
Sorry I just trying to give ideas, maybe not Microsoft, but you can always try other places.

If thats how you feel, but when you goto the US and you break you arm or get sick, tell me about the 1000s of USD medical fee you have to pay to get fixed up. I should rephrase this, in Alberta Healthcare premiums are now free towards Canadians. Healthcare in Canada is cheaper than healthcare also known as HMO or iPO in the US.

This post has been edited by rainpocky: May 25 2009, 02:14 PM

Insurance.

OK fine you win, I'll rephrase. If migrating to the US is like being a part of the US basketball team winning gold in the Summer Olympics, then migrating to Canada is like being a part of the Canadian Curling team winning gold in the Winter Olympics. Happy?

[edit] OK OK I'm a little harsh. There's some stuff that is better in canada than in the US. For example, the view of Niagara Falls is better. And you guys have Pacific Mall. And uh ... that's about all I can think of.

This post has been edited by deodorant: May 22 2009, 01:12 AM

Why leave all your friends and family behind and go to a place like America? Haven't TV shows like Prison Break, 24, Burn Notice and Chuck taught you anything? It's already an established fact: all foreigners in US soil are subjected to their government's scrutiny. And they got so many agencies to serve that purpose, agencies frequently clash with each other, it is laughably ridonculous. And it takes only one small misstep on your part to land yourself in similar situation as depicted in those TV shows. Don't think it's all glitter and glamor, hot babes and cool sunshine. For one day when you wake up, you'll realize your children no longer speak your language, and insist on speaking Spanish, or Latin, or Pig Latin, or hell, even Japanese or Korean. And they do so just to piss you off. I speak from experience.

Oh yeah, and then there's also this.

This post has been edited by Bad Cyborg: May 22 2009, 02:17 AM

What's your beef with Canada dude? Did someone from Canada give you a hard time? I mean I am not licking all over Canada's face here but I love how it's so culturally diverse and people are generally friendly and less xenophobic.

And Pacific Mall Rocks !!!

Since Canada is recommended as the first place to go before going to US, what kind of jobs do they have there? I heard from a friend of mine who studied there that the life is pretty slow going but it's definitely better than Malaysia.

This post has been edited by silverwave: May 22 2009, 08:22 AM

Have you actually been to the US and lived there?
You sounded like you've been there forever...

Pacific Mall is rubbish. It's just a big warehouse with a bunch of dudes in cubicles trying to sell you stuff.

Aha but yeah I'm just baiting you guys, I've got nothing against Canada, especially with all the great experiences I've had there. Mostly in the sundowner in niagara falls, hohoho.

@ Bad Cyborg riggggggggght because American TV shows are a realistic depiction of what life and society is like.

Australia has this thing for working visa, if you can get a job there its pretty easy to get a temporary work visa, if you try looking for one while your there on a visitor pass its ok as well, but if you try to apply for a work visa before getting work... not easy at all.

Umm do you know the difference between TV SHOWS and Reality? Stuff like what you watch is not exactly a fact going around as if its common knowledge in both countries. There really isn't that much of government scrutiny as you think there is. There is more scrutiny in Malaysia then there is in Canada let alone the US.



Its true life is slowing down there for the moment, but one day it will pick up again.

No he watches too much TV and expects it to be like reality.

Isn't Pacific mall like LYN, also a bunch of guys selling your stuff in cubicles as well, except it appeals to us Males alot more that its all IT/electronic stuff.

@ Bad Cyborg, so if someone watches buffy the vampire slayer, apparently there are real vampires in the cemetary waiting to come out at night and some one going to kill them off for me? TV shows will not give you any realism into what society is at all like in the US. It was made as a fantasy mostly or parts of realism to give the viewers a good joy ride to relax to.

I'm not so sure about that because I remember reading an article that they're still hiring foreign workers even in this economic climate. The reason to hire foreign worker in the first place is because they couldn't find similarly skilled American or the foreigner is willing to accept lower wages.

I would think that it's unlikely that you would get a job before migrating unless you have significant experience in some specialized skills in demand. For Canada, if you do have experience in a job on their in-demand occupation list then you can migrate without having a job first.

The best method would still be to get someone to sponsor you.

They are still hiring foreign workers, but for the simple jobs like working at walgreens or walmart or even bestbuy, they are one of the first to be cut. Normally Americans tend to cut the lower labor foreign worker before they cut their own Americans. There are alot of American's that will even accept low low wages currently and also in this recessions. I know my friend in a simple store like JC Penny had put a job posting at 8.00 USD/hour minimum wage in some states, and had over 8000 ppl apply for the job just as a merchandiser that puts stuff here n there. Simple job and it wasn't even full time it was part time.

Canada in demand jobs are hard to come by now adays, unless you have a special trade skill or something. Alberta still has a high employment rate for trade skills along with oil and gas. But its slowly diminishing as the Canadian dollar equalizes with the US dollar.

Sponsorship is the way to go, its a whole lot easier.

correct but it take ages just to get an interview before they can process your application

my mom apply for my whole family for the green card status with the sponsorship of my grandma and auntie who both are citizen

we submited the application like 5 years ago and now still waiting on the line for the interview proccess,money is not an issue but the process just take too long

so if you want to apply for a green card,think twice.

This post has been edited by wengjoe: May 24 2009, 10:11 AM

Did you do it yourself, or did you get a lawyer to help you? My buddy's family hired an attorney general, was a bit pricey, but they had sponsorship as well, and it took nearly 3.5 years in total.

Money cannot be used to buy your way thru like in Malaysia, most likely get rejected immediately with $$.

And where did you get your credentials from??? Most Canadian firms generally do not trust foreign credentials. Have you visit this site www.notcanada.com ?? Rainpocky said he is from Canada. You should him why he is in Malaysia. Is he on vacation? Or is he back in KL because it is to humiliating for a white collar professional to work at Tim Hortons??Recently CBC had an article about immigrants having a hard time looking for job. Goto www.cbc.ca and type in 'Oreopoulos'

Get your uncle to sponsor you?? Unless he is willing to sign a 10yrs agreement to support you and your family and not ending up on social welfare. Oh yes must put up bond money too. With rising unemployment , I am sure he will 'think' about it.

Huh?? Pay nothing for health care??? Who are you trying to fool? You never heard of OHIP's premium or BC's MSP premium??? Alberta got rid of it health premium this year. With declining oil price and rising health cost, it is chaos. Read it on CBC site

You are talking rubbish. In Canada, anyone can sponsor anyone. Just sign a 10yrs agreement and put up some bond money

don't think my mom hired any lawyer to do it

we just follow the normal procedure.

your buddy apply for which states ? and does that matter anyway ?

maybe because my mom apply for NYC,that why it take longer to process ?

This post has been edited by wengjoe: May 24 2009, 09:58 PM

Have you done it ? I've done it and I've not seen a 10 yr agreement nor bond money.


normal procedure sometimes can take awhile.
he went to california.

Not sure but try followup and see what the delay is.

This post has been edited by rainpocky: May 25 2009, 01:01 PM

to be honest,we are not in the situation where we are desperate or have to migrate over to the states.

even though we have people to sponsor la,about 4 people if we want.

but my dad already say firmly that he don't want to move out of Malaysia

This post has been edited by wengjoe: May 24 2009, 10:22 PM

Never seen a 10yr agreement nor bond money. Lucky you. What year did you emigrated ??? Let me guess ...must be 1980's or early 1990's??? Am I right???
From Govt of Canada website...sponsoring relatives... 3-10 yrs. Please read up and update. Of course there is no mention of bond money. Just like BC's MSP or OHIP websites. No mention of how much a person has to pay per month. Anyone who lives in BC or ONT knows he has to pay
I have a cousin who is living in Canada .His wife wants to bring her family over.According to my aunt, her son has to sign a 10 yr agreement and bond money( quite a hefty amount ). He couldn't afford the bond money...so no sponsorship.
Immigration Canada is not as stupid as they used to be. Back in the 90's any Tom d*** and Harry could sponsored family members and the dumped them at Social Welfare department. And how do IC prevent further abuse??? Bond money of course. Break your agreement and voila...consfication
If you still think I am making it up please goto
www.soscanada2000.com
click on immigration under new act. Then eligible condition. Then Sponsorship and then Sponsorship procedure
There is a little line there that says...IF you are in default , a performance bond...blah blah. Of cpourse nomention of how much
So am I talking thru my ass or the website is bogus ? Or you scurry back to Malaysia before IC imposed the up to 10yrs agreement +bond money??

-sigh- don't make it personal, its just a forum thats called "open topics".
If you find I'm wrong then fine, mention it, rather then act like a 2 yr old.

Bond money you mean as in investing into the country or what?

Immigration Canada is not stupid nor is Immigration in the US.

For your information what I do in Malaysia really isnt "your" business what I do here. So if you have nothing else constructive to say. I suggest you either pm me your rant rave or whatever or stop ruining this thread with your attitude.

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Added on May 25, 2009, 2:20 pmSo odd though, almost 5 years and not even hit an interview process yet. Its quite amusing how it takes so long now adays.

Alot of older parents who enjoy their time in Malaysia is quite reluctant to move away. My father in law here doesnt really want to move away as well. He always says he likes to visit but not stay long term.

This post has been edited by rainpocky: May 25 2009, 02:20 PM

So where did you get this "anyone can sponsor anyone". Mind giving a link?

The impression I get from reading CIC website is that you merely demonstrate the ability to care for the sponsored. If either party gets social welfare then the government reserves the right to recoup the cost from the sponsor. You don't actually pay the government any money until that happens.

i guess one of the contributing factor would be 9/11,there were very very very strict after that

i remmeber my auntie whose now is a citizen of US told me normally it take about 8 -10 years of waiting before your turn to be interview.

imagine hundred and thoudsand of people applying every year.

hi guys ^^ us not is in very good shape... why wanna come here?

Do you know what your saying, "anyone can sponsor anyone". So does that mean an immigrant can sponsor someone, or a visitor can sponsor someone, let alone, maybe just even a foreigner can sponsor someone. Where do you get this idea from?

I see from your website soscanada, its not exactly the same as CIC (the official canada immigration website) not some unofficial one. I can't seem to find where it says "ANYONE CAN SPONSOR ANYONE".


According to the CIC, this website, this is posted:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/sponsor/index.asp

Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) knows it is important to help families who come from other countries to reunite in Canada. If you are a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident of Canada, you can sponsor your spouse, common-law partner, conjugal partner, dependent child (including adopted child) or other eligible relative (such as a parent or grandparent) to become a permanent resident.

CIC refers to the immigrants who are eligible to use this family sponsoring process as the Family Class.

If you become a permanent resident, you can live, study and work in Canada. For more information about being a permanent resident in Canada, see the Related Links section at the bottom of this page.

When you arrive in Canada as a permanent resident, you must make every reasonable effort to provide for your own essential needs and those of your family.

If you sponsor a relative to come to Canada as a permanent resident, you are responsible for supporting your relative financially when he or she arrives. As a sponsor, you must make sure your spouse or relative does not need to seek financial assistance from the government.

The process to sponsor your family begins when you, as a citizen or permanent resident in Canada, apply to be a sponsor.

There are two different processes for sponsoring your family. One process is used for sponsoring your spouse, conjugal or common-law partner and/or dependent children. Another process is used to sponsor other eligible relatives.
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Also here is another link from the CIC which is about Who can sponsor and who cannot, maybe I'm wrong but the website certainly posts there are restrictions, NOT ANYONE CAN SPONSOR ANYONE.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/spo...who.asp#who_can

To sponsor any other eligible relatives (for example, parents and grandparents), you must be living in Canada.

Who can be sponsored
You can sponsor:

parents
grandparents
brothers or sisters, nephews or nieces, granddaughters or grandsons who are orphaned, under 18 years of age and not married or in a common-law relationship
another relative of any age or relationship if none of the above relatives could be sponsored, and you have no other relatives who are Canadian citizens, persons registered as Indians under the Indian Act or permanent residents and
accompanying relatives of the above (for example, spouse, partner and dependent children).

Who cannot be sponsored
Other relatives, such as brothers and sisters over 18, or adult independent children cannot be sponsored. However, if they apply to immigrate under the Skilled Worker Class, they may get extra points for adaptability for having a relative in Canada.

You already there or still in Malaysia?

Yes an immigrant can sponsor anyone. Yes even a foreigner can sponsor someone so long he/she is living legally in Canada. How?? IndirectlyThe most common method being..the maid. After 2 years, she can apply for PR and if accepted , her hubby and children also qualify for PR. The foreigner is the high income expat worker. Canadians do not call them maid but rather caregiver. For more info pls goto CIC website. Acceptance rate is around 50%
Source... www.thestar.com type in nannygate and read the article by Thomas Walkon(The real Moral of Nannygate) Is there any truth to anyone can sponsor anyone??

Check other websites and they are also not quite the same as CIC.
As for the who can sponsor and who cannot be sponsor, my advise is learn to think out of the box.Indians, PRCs and increasingly Pinoys/pinays will try to beat the system whereas you, an Honest Joe says see the official website says this and is written in black and white. How to beat the system?? Hint...lying is illegal and wrong ...only when caught.
This is my last entry in this thread

Good to see that the top brains in Malaysia are leaving the country for good


and they don't welcome new top brains too







How do you picture Malaysia in 2020?

Quick question for anyone currently in the US on a working or student visa. Are any of you recently subjected to the NSEERS registration upon entry or exit from the US?

There are loopholes in the US Immi. It's not impossible as long as you have a strong desire. If that's what you want, then make it happen. You never know until you take the shot.

Thanks Sau Seng La, that's what I thought to.It's been my dream to migrate to US since I was a kid and everyday I remind myself I need to do something to get closer to my dream.Unfortunately, my education background is up to degree level and it's from local university.I'm in the communications and media line and my working experience is nothing to shout about. I wonder how I can make it to US 5 to 10 yrs from now?

What is the easiest, cost effective and fastest method to migrate there? (And I don't mean getting married to an American k!) Should I study for an American MBA here and apply for jobs there or how?

Of late so many countries are tightening their migration laws including Australia and even Singapore. I wonder if there is still chance for me to get there as I don't have any sponsor whatsoever.

Of all the requirements, I would say the most important thing right now is for you to strengthen your mental attitude. Never accept "You Can't Do That!", "It's impossible for me to do that!", etc. Regardless of your education background you will succeed if you put your mind to it. I say this cos that's what I did and it works. And that is why I am here.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archiv...america/7919/1/

this is a very detail article on the effect of high jobless rate have on the new generation of ameircan, interesting fact is that if you enter job market in recession you get lower starting pay and can never catch up with those that enter during boom time. and almost 60% of salary growth in your lifetime come withing first 10 years of you career.

This post has been edited by robertngo: Mar 11 2010, 05:02 PM

We are actually in a Depression here. The media called it a great recession. Out of 5 friends, 3 had lost their jobs and 2 are underemployed.

hi... wanna ask something... why u all want to live at Us and leave your family and friends??? Because of MONEY or better liveing????

Sometimes because of money, sometimes it's a better life, and some people just don't like their family.

I think there's nothing wrong with being far away from your family, they'll still be your family after all. Not sure about friends, I don't have many.

Spontaneous reaction.

I hate people that hate their family... ungrateful people..........

xpole>people migrate for lots of reasons,although most migrate to create a better life for themselves and their families. I used to think Malaysia was my world until I started travelling and realised that there is so much out there that I have yet to explore.I remembered many years ago when Tan Sri Francis Yeoh of YTL Corp commented that Malaysia is just a drop in the ocean and that statement really struck me.

If you look around, most of the successful public listed companies derived majority of their revenue abroad as Malaysia only have a population of 28 million compared to the world population. Another factor is also opportunities. Most Malaysians who are famous today first make it abroad before they are recognised locally as they are given fair and equal opportunity there, unlike here.E.g Datuk Michelle Yeoh, Datuk Jimmy Choo,Lee Sin Jie, etc. We even have a former Malaysian who is now a politician in Australia.

Even if one migrates, it doesn't mean that they are ungrateful.It only means that they have chose to exercise their right to create a better life for themselves and to contribute their skills and knowledge elsewhere.

sau seng la>thanks for the encouragement.i'm mapping out my path to US. which part of US are you in at the moment?

You don't have to thank me. I just like to see more Malaysian excel and follow their dreams. Before you set out on your journey make sure you have a lofty goal. This is crucial because you are bound to face countless obstacles. Your goal will provide the motivation and strength for you to break through walls. Spend some time and think about what you want to achieve in the states. Living in the states should be your secondary concern.
New York is currently 55°F.

Hey guys, I really need to know if any of you are affected by the NSEERS requirement on your work visas as I have yet to meet a single Malaysian at my workplace, hence there isn't anyone whom I could refer to. If you're a permanent resident, it does not apply.

Hi,
I have a friend that stays in Astoria, New York. As what she said, she left M'sia since last September and has been staying there as tourist. She has been supporting herself by working as online/home-based work which basically earn USD. Now she is applying for permanent resident of USA.

This is just too good to be true. I feel the situation is so fishy and unbelievable.

Advice??

Thank

1st of all, check if what's she's doing is even legal in the USA or not.
As far as I know, tourist visas DO NOT allow you to work or do business in USA. (P.S. that's why they have business visas).
As for applying for visa, i suppose she's going for the lottery gree card (which you could also apply in M'sia) unless of course, her online business revenue is in millions, in which case she can apply under other classes.

But judging by her tourist visa, i doubt she is doing it legally and her online business is not big enough to be deemed a significant business interest to the USA to grant her a gree card. If caught, she might be charged for illegally doing business in USA without the proper documents. Be careful

Hi,

Thank you for your reply. Well, she's doing translation/ transcription works which are basically online-based. So, i suppose she can work anywhere she want. She just wanted to settle down in NY.

She's still in the process on the paper works and stuff, so like you said, I believe it's the lottery green card. So, you were saying that in order to be granted with green card (PR status???), she needs an appropriate working visa such as an employment or something??

I mean, she's basically a tourist with an extended staying, then lets say she is going for the green card thingy, but with an online job, US probably won't grant her the green card??

It's very hard to hear from her again because she has been avoiding her families and friends here. We only able to catch up via email weeks ago.


Look forward to hear from you again!!Thanks again for your help!
-B-

As far as I know, working - i.e. receiving money for work done (whether online or not does not matter) while in USA on a tourist visa constitutes a breach in regulations and is considered an offence.

No. There is no requirement for green card lottery participation. In fact any citizens of countries listed on the US immigration website are allowed to participate in the green card lottery, inlcuding you! You can apply for it while you're still in Malaysia!

It's 2 separte matter. She still can apply for the greencard lottery.
and she still could be caught for working illegally and deported immediately.

If she won the greencard and was subsequently caught working illegally, i think they will cancel her green card.

When you enter the US as a tourist, you need a visa. The visa is obtained through an interview process at the US embassy. If you are planning to stay for a week, you have to prove you have sufficient funds and accomodation for the stay.I doubt your friend has that kind of money. Your friend has been living there for months are living off online work. Most likely she has overstayed and will be blacklisted and deported if she is caught by the authorities.

And what she is doing is akin to being an illegal immigrant.A crime.Also, the lottery green card is really a lottery because your chance of winning is similar to winning the 4D jackpot.

I have heard stories about crazy people doing this but I guess it still happens.

I hope she's not being irrational of committing such crime. She has not been very genuine in letting us know her whereabouts. However, I have a thought, is it possible that she's joining Work & Travel in USA? Heard it's like 6 months. She left Malaysia on last September so she's now already has 3 months extra of overstaying. Maybe she able to extend another few months of staying over there until she got the Green Card???

Let's say she has sufficient money and accommodation to stay and her online work really help, I guess maybe she can really support herself. Maybe she able to prove to the immigration office that she has sufficient fund and accomodation and thus the immigration office extend her staying???

She mentioned about adjusting her status from tourist to resident. It's still an early stage of dealing with the US immigration office and if everything goes well, probably in the next few months or so, she can have her case approved and then become a PR within the next year!!

-B-

On tourist visa? 101% confirmed overstay case liao.


Bullsh*t. If it were this easy to get green card, everybody would have one now.

I've lived in the US for a few years legally and I can tell you that what she is doing is illegal.

If you are familiar with the rules on getting a green card, the fastest way would be to marry a citizen(maybe she's going for that).Even then,you have to go to an interview to prove that you're not marrying to stay in the country but out of love. All the other methods have a waiting period that is years long.

The cards are meant for overseas immediate family of citizens or residents, exceptional individuals and investors. Your friend is none of the above.

so u hate lee chong wei too la?

there r many reasons y we hate our family

In Bolehland or the little red dot, when a person is leaving the country, an immigration officer checks the passport. Does US has such exit control??? Overstay...so what???

So apparently being an illegal immigrant is perfectly OK with you?

segamatboy,

This is the REASON why it is getting harder for Malaysian to get Visa to get into USA. And, if anyone related to you did this, it is harder for all of you and your family to get a visa to get into USA.

It is NOT Bolehland. They have a better system to track this.

<<an immigration officer checks the passport. Does US has such exit control??? >>

Yes.

Dreamer

The real REASON it is harder to get a visa to US is because Malaysia was stupid to declare itself an Islamic country and US post 911 paranoia. They have a better tracking system?? Boy, whatever you are smoking is pretty potent. The only tracking system they have is base on airline info... what's the percentage of passengers using up their return tickets and their names

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Added on January 4, 2013, 11:57 pmIf a person is desperate and have nothing to lose what's wrong being an illegal??


This post has been edited by segamatboy: Jan 4 2013, 11:57 PM

It fraks it up for the rest of us? Didn't you remember not too long ago UK was considering requiring Visa for Malaysians? Guess why they were considering that?

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Added on January 4, 2013, 11:58 pm
It fraks it up for the rest of us? Didn't you remember not too long ago UK was considering requiring Visa for Malaysians? Guess why they were considering that?

This post has been edited by deodorant: Jan 4 2013, 11:58 PM

segamatboy,

<< They have a better tracking system?? Boy, whatever you are smoking is pretty potent. The only tracking system they have is base on airline info... what's the percentage of passengers using up their return tickets>>

You are based on outdated information.

Half of my family members are in USA. Every few months, I have one or more my immediate family member travel in and out of the USA.

http://www.dhs.gov/us-visit-what-expect

Please note that biometric data are collected to verify entry and exit.

Dreamer

P.S.: If you are talking about tracking people after they enter, you might be correct. But, after anyone is caught and deported, the WHOLE FAMILY is blacklisted.

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Jan 5 2013, 12:06 AM

You do realize that they keep track of the I-94 cards when you leave the US.

Money in USA?
Are you kidding?
Many people are unemployed in the US of A.
And depending where you live USA is even more dangerous than Malaysia.
Esp in those "burbs" where drive by shootings happens every now and then.
Taxes are also sky high - they got federal tax and state tax plus benefits are shitty. They don't have a universal healthcare - although obama is trying to change that and phama milks every cent from you

Competition is stiff from the latinos, asians, caucasions, etc

Permament or temporary??? I have a Canadian relative who was caught by US border agent for trying to cross the border carrying contraband stuff. She got an 16 months???? ban from entering the US That was 4 or 5 years ago

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Added on January 6, 2013, 12:15 pm
And you think overstayer/illegal think he/she has the right to FIFO at will???

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Added on January 6, 2013, 12:41 pmCanada imposed visa for Malaysian a few years ago citing the same reason. If you believe what Ottawa said, you may as well believe in tooth fairy. Look at the numbers. How many Bolehlanders visit Canada anually??? Hint.....MAS flew to Vancouver in the late 90s(2 or 3 flights a week) and withdrew after a year or 2. SIA withdrew from Vancouver in 2009(3 flights a week) Even Canada visa office relocated to Singapore.How to justify maintaining an office with so few visitors
One of my Canadian relative held a reunion gathering last year. They went to UK and OZ in the late 70's. A few of them went underground. They eventually got their papers and become legal residents. If Dreamer listened to their stories, he would blush with envy cause their lives were much worst than his(read some of his postings regarding his student years in a US uni)
Why Whitehall consider visa for Malaysian?? Most illegal migrants work jobs local wont touch Is Whitehall becoming paranoia after the 7/7 incident??? Do you agree some of UK religion of peace follwers are seeing their country as Little Satan



This post has been edited by segamatboy: Jan 6 2013, 12:41 PM

segamatboy,

I am not denying your experience and exposure in this item. But, my family had sponsored many or nephews and nieces to study in USA across this 10 to 15 years. And, they do check whether anyone in the family had over-stayed illegally in deciding whether to issue a visa. And, it is a lot harder and we have to post bigger guarantee and do more paperwork if anyone related had been deported. And, it is getting harder and stricter.

Dreamer

Just fyi, they have tighten up the B1 business visa too.
Too many companies abusing it i.e. sending employees over on B1 to work for months.

Anyone that is interested to get a US green card, you can talk to us. We will show you a easiest, cheapest and fastest way to be US PR. It is totally legal.

http://www.usmigrationservice.com/

I dream of immigrating to the US. My husband applies for L1 investment visa which is one of the cheapest among this kind (by investment) of visas. It is also more predictable comparing with green card. We really like this agency we work with, they helped our friend with the other government paperwork.

not trying to shatter your dream or anything, with the current Trump administration putting more restriction toward legal and illegal immigrant, don't expect any fast result like what you heard about moving to AU and Canada within few years.



nothing is predictable under Trump administration, although L1 visa is dual-intent visa, getting a green card is still the most secure way to set foot in US.

FYI, I'm a green card holder waiting for the 5 years time lapse before starting my naturalization process.

funny that many people dream and find any possible way to come to US but my parents are so eager to dump that plastic card that everyone is fighting for.

Erm, not to burst your bubble, L1 is not an investment visa and it does not lead to a more permanent solution. I would suggest you read up further on more legit immigration forums, for eg https://www.trackitt.com/usa-discussion-forums.

edit: fyi, i went through the L1-B to EB-2 path.

This post has been edited by miuk: Oct 4 2019, 09:27 AM

even with EB-2 path, we are talking at least 7-10 years of waiting due to green card availability is so limited each year. You are still stuck with your employer with no other option, if you lose your job you are screw.

thankfully you are not from India or China, the backlog is so bad especially for Indian national that reports indicated many would be waiting at least 50-70 years before the availability green card. Many will die off before even have the chance to go for green card interview.

your best bet is transit toward EB-1 as the backlog is substantially lower then EB-2 or if you don't mind wait out the whole 10 years period.