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segamatboy
post May 24 2009, 09:01 PM

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You are talking rubbish. In Canada, anyone can sponsor anyone. Just sign a 10yrs agreement and put up some bond money


QUOTE(rainpocky @ May 21 2009, 10:48 PM)
US/Canadian  its applicable to immediate family. Extended family not.
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post May 24 2009, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(rainpocky @ May 24 2009, 02:52 PM)
Did you do it yourself, or did you get a lawyer to help you? My buddy's family hired an attorney general, was a bit pricey, but they had sponsorship as well, and it took nearly 3.5 years in total.

Money cannot be used to buy your way thru like in Malaysia, most likely get rejected immediately with $$.
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don't think my mom hired any lawyer to do it

we just follow the normal procedure.

your buddy apply for which states ? and does that matter anyway ?

maybe because my mom apply for NYC,that why it take longer to process ?

This post has been edited by wengjoe: May 24 2009, 09:58 PM
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post May 24 2009, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(segamatboy @ May 24 2009, 09:01 PM)
You are talking rubbish. In Canada, anyone can sponsor anyone. Just sign a 10yrs agreement and put up some bond money
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Have you done it ? I've done it and I've not seen a 10 yr agreement nor bond money.


QUOTE(wengjoe @ May 24 2009, 09:56 PM)
don't think my mom hired any lawyer to do it

we just follow the normal procedure.

your buddy apply for which states ? and does that matter anyway ?

maybe because my mom apply for NYC,that why it take longer to process ?
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normal procedure sometimes can take awhile.
he went to california.

Not sure but try followup and see what the delay is.

This post has been edited by rainpocky: May 25 2009, 01:01 PM
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post May 24 2009, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(rainpocky @ May 24 2009, 10:08 PM)
Have you done it or are you just talking out of your ass as well. I've done it and I've not seen a 10 yr agreement nor bond money.
normal procedure sometimes can take awhile.
he went to california.

Not sure but try followup and see what the delay is.
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to be honest,we are not in the situation where we are desperate or have to migrate over to the states.

even though we have people to sponsor la,about 4 people if we want.

but my dad already say firmly that he don't want to move out of Malaysia

This post has been edited by wengjoe: May 24 2009, 10:22 PM
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post May 24 2009, 11:38 PM

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Never seen a 10yr agreement nor bond money. Lucky you. What year did you emigrated ??? Let me guess ...must be 1980's or early 1990's??? Am I right???
From Govt of Canada website...sponsoring relatives... 3-10 yrs. Please read up and update. Of course there is no mention of bond money. Just like BC's MSP or OHIP websites. No mention of how much a person has to pay per month. Anyone who lives in BC or ONT knows he has to pay
I have a cousin who is living in Canada .His wife wants to bring her family over.According to my aunt, her son has to sign a 10 yr agreement and bond money( quite a hefty amount ). He couldn't afford the bond money...so no sponsorship.
Immigration Canada is not as stupid as they used to be. Back in the 90's any Tom d*** and Harry could sponsored family members and the dumped them at Social Welfare department. And how do IC prevent further abuse??? Bond money of course. Break your agreement and voila...consfication
If you still think I am making it up please goto
www.soscanada2000.com
click on immigration under new act. Then eligible condition. Then Sponsorship and then Sponsorship procedure
There is a little line there that says...IF you are in default , a performance bond...blah blah. Of cpourse nomention of how much
So am I talking thru my ass or the website is bogus ? Or you scurry back to Malaysia before IC imposed the up to 10yrs agreement +bond money??



QUOTE(rainpocky @ May 24 2009, 10:08 PM)
Have you done it or are you just talking out of your ass as well. I've done it and I've not seen a 10 yr agreement nor bond money.
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post May 25 2009, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(segamatboy @ May 24 2009, 11:38 PM)
Never seen a 10yr agreement nor bond money. Lucky you. What year did you emigrated ??? Let me guess ...must be 1980's  or early 1990's??? Am I right???
From Govt of Canada website...sponsoring relatives... 3-10 yrs. Please read up and update. Of course there is no mention of bond money. Just like BC's MSP or OHIP websites. No mention of how much a person has to pay per month. Anyone who lives in BC or ONT knows he has to pay
I have a cousin who is living in Canada .His wife wants to bring her family over.According to my aunt, her son has to sign a 10 yr agreement and bond money( quite a hefty amount ). He couldn't afford the bond money...so no sponsorship.
Immigration Canada is not as stupid as they used to be. Back in the 90's any Tom d*** and Harry could sponsored family members and the dumped them at Social Welfare department. And how do IC prevent further abuse??? Bond money of course. Break your agreement and voila...consfication
If you still  think I am making it up please goto
www.soscanada2000.com
click on immigration under new act. Then eligible condition. Then Sponsorship and then Sponsorship procedure
There is a little line there that says...IF you are in default , a performance bond...blah blah. Of cpourse  nomention of how much
So am I talking thru my ass or the website is bogus ? Or you scurry back to Malaysia before IC imposed the up to 10yrs agreement +bond money??
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-sigh- don't make it personal, its just a forum thats called "open topics".
If you find I'm wrong then fine, mention it, rather then act like a 2 yr old.

Bond money you mean as in investing into the country or what?

Immigration Canada is not stupid nor is Immigration in the US.

For your information what I do in Malaysia really isnt "your" business what I do here. So if you have nothing else constructive to say. I suggest you either pm me your rant rave or whatever or stop ruining this thread with your attitude.


Added on May 25, 2009, 2:20 pm
QUOTE(wengjoe @ May 24 2009, 10:20 PM)
to be honest,we are not in the situation where we are desperate or have to migrate over to the states.

even though we have people to sponsor la,about 4 people if we want.

but my dad already say firmly that he don't want to move out of Malaysia
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So odd though, almost 5 years and not even hit an interview process yet. Its quite amusing how it takes so long now adays.

Alot of older parents who enjoy their time in Malaysia is quite reluctant to move away. My father in law here doesnt really want to move away as well. He always says he likes to visit but not stay long term.

This post has been edited by rainpocky: May 25 2009, 02:20 PM
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post May 25 2009, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(segamatboy @ May 24 2009, 08:01 AM)
You are talking rubbish. In Canada, anyone can sponsor anyone. Just sign a 10yrs agreement and put up some bond money
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So where did you get this "anyone can sponsor anyone". Mind giving a link?

The impression I get from reading CIC website is that you merely demonstrate the ability to care for the sponsored. If either party gets social welfare then the government reserves the right to recoup the cost from the sponsor. You don't actually pay the government any money until that happens.
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post May 25 2009, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(rainpocky @ May 25 2009, 08:38 AM)
So odd though, almost 5 years and not even hit an interview process yet. Its quite amusing how it takes so long now adays.

Alot of older parents who enjoy their time in Malaysia is quite reluctant to move away. My father in law here doesnt really want to move away as well. He always says he likes to visit but not stay long term.
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i guess one of the contributing factor would be 9/11,there were very very very strict after that

i remmeber my auntie whose now is a citizen of US told me normally it take about 8 -10 years of waiting before your turn to be interview.

imagine hundred and thoudsand of people applying every year.
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hi guys ^^ us not is in very good shape... why wanna come here?
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post May 25 2009, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(segamatboy @ May 24 2009, 09:01 PM)
You are talking rubbish. In Canada, anyone can sponsor anyone. Just sign a 10yrs agreement and put up some bond money
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Do you know what your saying, "anyone can sponsor anyone". So does that mean an immigrant can sponsor someone, or a visitor can sponsor someone, let alone, maybe just even a foreigner can sponsor someone. Where do you get this idea from?

I see from your website soscanada, its not exactly the same as CIC (the official canada immigration website) not some unofficial one. I can't seem to find where it says "ANYONE CAN SPONSOR ANYONE".


According to the CIC, this website, this is posted:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/sponsor/index.asp

Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) knows it is important to help families who come from other countries to reunite in Canada. If you are a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident of Canada, you can sponsor your spouse, common-law partner, conjugal partner, dependent child (including adopted child) or other eligible relative (such as a parent or grandparent) to become a permanent resident.

CIC refers to the immigrants who are eligible to use this family sponsoring process as the Family Class.

If you become a permanent resident, you can live, study and work in Canada. For more information about being a permanent resident in Canada, see the Related Links section at the bottom of this page.

When you arrive in Canada as a permanent resident, you must make every reasonable effort to provide for your own essential needs and those of your family.

If you sponsor a relative to come to Canada as a permanent resident, you are responsible for supporting your relative financially when he or she arrives. As a sponsor, you must make sure your spouse or relative does not need to seek financial assistance from the government.

The process to sponsor your family begins when you, as a citizen or permanent resident in Canada, apply to be a sponsor.

There are two different processes for sponsoring your family. One process is used for sponsoring your spouse, conjugal or common-law partner and/or dependent children. Another process is used to sponsor other eligible relatives.
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Also here is another link from the CIC which is about Who can sponsor and who cannot, maybe I'm wrong but the website certainly posts there are restrictions, NOT ANYONE CAN SPONSOR ANYONE.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/spo...who.asp#who_can

To sponsor any other eligible relatives (for example, parents and grandparents), you must be living in Canada.

Who can be sponsored
You can sponsor:


parents
grandparents
brothers or sisters, nephews or nieces, granddaughters or grandsons who are orphaned, under 18 years of age and not married or in a common-law relationship
another relative of any age or relationship if none of the above relatives could be sponsored, and you have no other relatives who are Canadian citizens, persons registered as Indians under the Indian Act or permanent residents and
accompanying relatives of the above (for example, spouse, partner and dependent children).

Who cannot be sponsored
Other relatives, such as brothers and sisters over 18, or adult independent children cannot be sponsored. However, if they apply to immigrate under the Skilled Worker Class, they may get extra points for adaptability for having a relative in Canada.




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post May 25 2009, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ May 25 2009, 04:12 PM)
hi guys ^^ us not is in very good shape... why wanna come here?
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You already there or still in Malaysia? tongue.gif
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post May 26 2009, 12:33 PM

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Yes an immigrant can sponsor anyone. Yes even a foreigner can sponsor someone so long he/she is living legally in Canada. How?? IndirectlyThe most common method being..the maid. After 2 years, she can apply for PR and if accepted , her hubby and children also qualify for PR. The foreigner is the high income expat worker. Canadians do not call them maid but rather caregiver. For more info pls goto CIC website. Acceptance rate is around 50%
Source... www.thestar.com type in nannygate and read the article by Thomas Walkon(The real Moral of Nannygate) Is there any truth to anyone can sponsor anyone??

Check other websites and they are also not quite the same as CIC.
As for the who can sponsor and who cannot be sponsor, my advise is learn to think out of the box.Indians, PRCs and increasingly Pinoys/pinays will try to beat the system whereas you, an Honest Joe says see the official website says this and is written in black and white. How to beat the system?? Hint...lying is illegal and wrong ...only when caught.
This is my last entry in this thread

QUOTE(rainpocky @ May 25 2009, 04:19 PM)
Do you know what your saying, "anyone can sponsor anyone". So does that mean an immigrant can sponsor someone, or a visitor can sponsor someone, let alone, maybe just even a foreigner can sponsor someone. Where do you get this idea from?

I see from your website soscanada, its not exactly the same as CIC (the official canada immigration website) not some unofficial one. I can't seem to find where it says "ANYONE CAN SPONSOR ANYONE".
According to the CIC, this website, this is posted:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/sponsor/index.asp

Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) knows it is important to help families who come from other countries to reunite in Canada. If you are a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident of Canada, you can sponsor your spouse, common-law partner, conjugal partner, dependent child (including adopted child) or other eligible relative (such as a parent or grandparent) to become a permanent resident.

CIC refers to the immigrants who are eligible to use this family sponsoring process as the Family Class.

If you become a permanent resident, you can live, study and work in Canada. For more information about being a permanent resident in Canada, see the Related Links section at the bottom of this page.

When you arrive in Canada as a permanent resident, you must make every reasonable effort to provide for your own essential needs and those of your family.

If you sponsor a relative to come to Canada as a permanent resident, you are responsible for supporting your relative financially when he or she arrives. As a sponsor, you must make sure your spouse or relative does not need to seek financial assistance from the government.

The process to sponsor your family begins when you, as a citizen or permanent resident in Canada, apply to be a sponsor.

There are two different processes for sponsoring your family. One process is used for sponsoring your spouse, conjugal or common-law partner and/or dependent children. Another process is used to sponsor other eligible relatives.
______________________________________
Also here is another link from the CIC which is about Who can sponsor and who cannot, maybe I'm wrong but the website certainly posts there are restrictions, NOT ANYONE CAN SPONSOR ANYONE.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/spo...who.asp#who_can

To sponsor any other eligible relatives (for example, parents and grandparents), you must be living in Canada.

Who can be sponsored
You can sponsor:


parents
grandparents
brothers or sisters, nephews or nieces, granddaughters or grandsons who are orphaned, under 18 years of age and not married or in a common-law relationship
another relative of any age or relationship if none of the above relatives could be sponsored, and you have no other relatives who are Canadian citizens, persons registered as Indians under the Indian Act or permanent residents and
accompanying relatives of the above (for example, spouse, partner and dependent children).

Who cannot be sponsored
Other relatives, such as brothers and sisters over 18, or adult independent children cannot be sponsored. However, if they apply to immigrate under the Skilled Worker Class, they may get extra points for adaptability for having a relative in Canada.
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Good to see that the top brains in Malaysia are leaving the country for good


and they don't welcome new top brains too







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post Mar 7 2010, 03:22 PM

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Quick question for anyone currently in the US on a working or student visa. Are any of you recently subjected to the NSEERS registration upon entry or exit from the US?
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There are loopholes in the US Immi. It's not impossible as long as you have a strong desire. If that's what you want, then make it happen. You never know until you take the shot.

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Thanks Sau Seng La, that's what I thought to.It's been my dream to migrate to US since I was a kid and everyday I remind myself I need to do something to get closer to my dream.Unfortunately, my education background is up to degree level and it's from local university.I'm in the communications and media line and my working experience is nothing to shout about. I wonder how I can make it to US 5 to 10 yrs from now?

What is the easiest, cost effective and fastest method to migrate there? (And I don't mean getting married to an American k!) Should I study for an American MBA here and apply for jobs there or how?

Of late so many countries are tightening their migration laws including Australia and even Singapore. I wonder if there is still chance for me to get there as I don't have any sponsor whatsoever.
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Of all the requirements, I would say the most important thing right now is for you to strengthen your mental attitude. Never accept "You Can't Do That!", "It's impossible for me to do that!", etc. Regardless of your education background you will succeed if you put your mind to it. I say this cos that's what I did and it works. And that is why I am here.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archiv...america/7919/1/

this is a very detail article on the effect of high jobless rate have on the new generation of ameircan, interesting fact is that if you enter job market in recession you get lower starting pay and can never catch up with those that enter during boom time. and almost 60% of salary growth in your lifetime come withing first 10 years of you career.

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Mar 11 2010, 03:58 AM)
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archiv...america/7919/1/

this is a very detail article on the effect of high jobless rate have on the new generation of ameircan, interesting fact is that if you enter job market in recession you get lower starting pay and can never catch up with those that enter during boom time. and almost 60% of salary growth in your lifetime come withing first 10 years of you career.
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We are actually in a Depression here. The media called it a great recession. Out of 5 friends, 3 had lost their jobs and 2 are underemployed. rclxub.gif
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hi... wanna ask something... why u all want to live at Us and leave your family and friends??? Because of MONEY or better liveing????

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