sorry bout posting this, but since we're on the topic of migration, is it hard to get a temporary work visa in australia?

This post has been edited by bpk16: May 21 2009, 11:55 PM

btw for the US green card, sponsorship if I remember correctly is only applicable to immediate family ie. brothers, sisters and parents.

US/Canadian its applicable to immediate family. Extended family not.

i was looking to the list of the top employee to see if anyone interested, unix admin working in Microsoft ? blasphemy

by they way you are in canada or malaysia?



This post has been edited by robertngo: May 21 2009, 11:34 PM

Canada?

If migrating to the US is like winning the 100m in the Olympics, then migrating to Canada is like coming last in the final race.

Haha and migrating to Australia would be the guy who got disqualified during the heats? But I'm seriously thinking about Australia...

While I like the US, there are many issues that make me pause when thinking about long term and for the family/kids. Education is bad in most cities, you need to go out to a suburb to get decent public schools or otherwise pay for private schools. Higher education is much better but it'll cost you. Healthcare is a mess. The one good thing is still the salaries which are some of the highest in the world.

I'm in Malaysia now, but I'm from Canada.
Sorry I just trying to give ideas, maybe not Microsoft, but you can always try other places.

If thats how you feel, but when you goto the US and you break you arm or get sick, tell me about the 1000s of USD medical fee you have to pay to get fixed up. I should rephrase this, in Alberta Healthcare premiums are now free towards Canadians. Healthcare in Canada is cheaper than healthcare also known as HMO or iPO in the US.

This post has been edited by rainpocky: May 25 2009, 02:14 PM

Insurance.

OK fine you win, I'll rephrase. If migrating to the US is like being a part of the US basketball team winning gold in the Summer Olympics, then migrating to Canada is like being a part of the Canadian Curling team winning gold in the Winter Olympics. Happy?

[edit] OK OK I'm a little harsh. There's some stuff that is better in canada than in the US. For example, the view of Niagara Falls is better. And you guys have Pacific Mall. And uh ... that's about all I can think of.

This post has been edited by deodorant: May 22 2009, 01:12 AM

Why leave all your friends and family behind and go to a place like America? Haven't TV shows like Prison Break, 24, Burn Notice and Chuck taught you anything? It's already an established fact: all foreigners in US soil are subjected to their government's scrutiny. And they got so many agencies to serve that purpose, agencies frequently clash with each other, it is laughably ridonculous. And it takes only one small misstep on your part to land yourself in similar situation as depicted in those TV shows. Don't think it's all glitter and glamor, hot babes and cool sunshine. For one day when you wake up, you'll realize your children no longer speak your language, and insist on speaking Spanish, or Latin, or Pig Latin, or hell, even Japanese or Korean. And they do so just to piss you off. I speak from experience.

Oh yeah, and then there's also this.

This post has been edited by Bad Cyborg: May 22 2009, 02:17 AM

What's your beef with Canada dude? Did someone from Canada give you a hard time? I mean I am not licking all over Canada's face here but I love how it's so culturally diverse and people are generally friendly and less xenophobic.

And Pacific Mall Rocks !!!

Since Canada is recommended as the first place to go before going to US, what kind of jobs do they have there? I heard from a friend of mine who studied there that the life is pretty slow going but it's definitely better than Malaysia.

This post has been edited by silverwave: May 22 2009, 08:22 AM

Have you actually been to the US and lived there?
You sounded like you've been there forever...

Pacific Mall is rubbish. It's just a big warehouse with a bunch of dudes in cubicles trying to sell you stuff.

Aha but yeah I'm just baiting you guys, I've got nothing against Canada, especially with all the great experiences I've had there. Mostly in the sundowner in niagara falls, hohoho.

@ Bad Cyborg riggggggggght because American TV shows are a realistic depiction of what life and society is like.

Australia has this thing for working visa, if you can get a job there its pretty easy to get a temporary work visa, if you try looking for one while your there on a visitor pass its ok as well, but if you try to apply for a work visa before getting work... not easy at all.

Umm do you know the difference between TV SHOWS and Reality? Stuff like what you watch is not exactly a fact going around as if its common knowledge in both countries. There really isn't that much of government scrutiny as you think there is. There is more scrutiny in Malaysia then there is in Canada let alone the US.



Its true life is slowing down there for the moment, but one day it will pick up again.

No he watches too much TV and expects it to be like reality.

Isn't Pacific mall like LYN, also a bunch of guys selling your stuff in cubicles as well, except it appeals to us Males alot more that its all IT/electronic stuff.

@ Bad Cyborg, so if someone watches buffy the vampire slayer, apparently there are real vampires in the cemetary waiting to come out at night and some one going to kill them off for me? TV shows will not give you any realism into what society is at all like in the US. It was made as a fantasy mostly or parts of realism to give the viewers a good joy ride to relax to.

I'm not so sure about that because I remember reading an article that they're still hiring foreign workers even in this economic climate. The reason to hire foreign worker in the first place is because they couldn't find similarly skilled American or the foreigner is willing to accept lower wages.

I would think that it's unlikely that you would get a job before migrating unless you have significant experience in some specialized skills in demand. For Canada, if you do have experience in a job on their in-demand occupation list then you can migrate without having a job first.

The best method would still be to get someone to sponsor you.

They are still hiring foreign workers, but for the simple jobs like working at walgreens or walmart or even bestbuy, they are one of the first to be cut. Normally Americans tend to cut the lower labor foreign worker before they cut their own Americans. There are alot of American's that will even accept low low wages currently and also in this recessions. I know my friend in a simple store like JC Penny had put a job posting at 8.00 USD/hour minimum wage in some states, and had over 8000 ppl apply for the job just as a merchandiser that puts stuff here n there. Simple job and it wasn't even full time it was part time.

Canada in demand jobs are hard to come by now adays, unless you have a special trade skill or something. Alberta still has a high employment rate for trade skills along with oil and gas. But its slowly diminishing as the Canadian dollar equalizes with the US dollar.

Sponsorship is the way to go, its a whole lot easier.

correct but it take ages just to get an interview before they can process your application

my mom apply for my whole family for the green card status with the sponsorship of my grandma and auntie who both are citizen

we submited the application like 5 years ago and now still waiting on the line for the interview proccess,money is not an issue but the process just take too long

so if you want to apply for a green card,think twice.

This post has been edited by wengjoe: May 24 2009, 10:11 AM

Did you do it yourself, or did you get a lawyer to help you? My buddy's family hired an attorney general, was a bit pricey, but they had sponsorship as well, and it took nearly 3.5 years in total.

Money cannot be used to buy your way thru like in Malaysia, most likely get rejected immediately with $$.

And where did you get your credentials from??? Most Canadian firms generally do not trust foreign credentials. Have you visit this site www.notcanada.com ?? Rainpocky said he is from Canada. You should him why he is in Malaysia. Is he on vacation? Or is he back in KL because it is to humiliating for a white collar professional to work at Tim Hortons??Recently CBC had an article about immigrants having a hard time looking for job. Goto www.cbc.ca and type in 'Oreopoulos'

Get your uncle to sponsor you?? Unless he is willing to sign a 10yrs agreement to support you and your family and not ending up on social welfare. Oh yes must put up bond money too. With rising unemployment , I am sure he will 'think' about it.

Huh?? Pay nothing for health care??? Who are you trying to fool? You never heard of OHIP's premium or BC's MSP premium??? Alberta got rid of it health premium this year. With declining oil price and rising health cost, it is chaos. Read it on CBC site