Unfortunately, no . Due to long jam, everyone trying to test out asap. Took them abt 2 hours to reach. I am thinking of taking my SVS to my friend's HT room which is acoustically treated and his setup is well calibrated.

Having said that, he was here at my home on Thurs night to check SVS. That was before SVS being calibrated. He was very impressed with PC's ability to hit really low bass, which he like a lot. He just commented that his SPL1200R not able to match it.

The first noticable difference between SPL and PC is the ability to pressurise the room, which will give you the 'feel'. In this instance, any movies with really low LFE will torture most subs as it goes low.

PC does that it with ease. Indy THX opening clip, Kung Fu Panda starting, Ironman Chapter 5, Master and Commander are being handled by SVS with powerful low end grunt .

No doubt SPL is one great powerful sub. But, it just couldn't go that low. It has the power to match. But, it just couldn't provide that kind of 'feel' since SVS is set to 16Hz with a port blocked.

The tautness of bass is another keypoint to note. SVS bass is more refined. SPL sounds a bit muffled (maybe due to no self tuning). Bryan noted this difference. Since he is the rightful owner, he is in the best position to tell the difference. He felt that the PC outperforms SPL in areas that I mentioned earlier.

Due to intimidating size of PC , many might not opt for it even it performs very well.

On Ironman Chapter 5, SPL managed to churn out powerful bass with precision and rumbles. I noted thatthe bass is quite 'wide' and bit muffled. This may be due to no self tuning, which I am not sure (Have to refer to Bryan). When Ironman walks out of the cave, the bass is heavy with enough weight. Impressive. My ex-CHT-12R will be left trailing here .

The PC does a bit more than that. You can actuall feel the heaviness of the machine when Ironman walks out. It is intoxicating. The room is filled with the immense LFE. Low end extension is well produced, which is quite daunting for most sub at this price range.

I am a guy who likes to feel the action while movies. And this SVS PC12Plus did just that. Perfectly. Damn, now my ceiling really vibrates. CHT-12R unable to do that. SPL did that but w/o much feel to it. I can safely says that PC-12Plus sealed it.

I am the kind of ppl who do not listen at very high volume level. At most is about -20dB. Reference level is at-6dB.

The bass extension is very good. Very few sub that I auditioned can do this. To go below 20Hz, only a handful of sub can do that. It just blends beautifully with my speakers.

Bro, it is difficult to tell you how exactly 12Q being squashed by 12Plus until you tried it out.




Erm, my front speakers aint that big but still looks daunting; it is using a 10" woofer and another 10" passive radiator, which works perfectly well for me til now. The PC-12Plus blends with it perfectly. My bro came yesterday. He was impressed that the sub is able to blends (some ppl call it 'invisible') and not overpowering the rest of the speakers I am still learning on how to fine tune this SVS as I told those who came. It is quite difficult for me to put into words as I am not that good at it. Only those that came knew what it is as they auditioned it.

I think you are talking about miscalibration of sub when you talk about loud bass. Some people tend to increase or crank the sub volume too high. In my case, I like hear things as it is. Since my listening level is not high, the normal recommendation would be +3dB for the sub. The SVS is overwhelming at +3dB. So, I tuned it down to +2dB. Not close yet. Ended up with +1dB, which is just nice. Of course, all being done by using SPL level meter and after YPAO.

I could safely say that the SVS is purely movie sub. Then again, IMHO, I dont see the point of having a sub for stereo listening if you have a good pair of front speakers. That's why there isn't a sub pre-out in a stereo amp

I think I have finally found a sub that wouldn't break my bank account

Cheers

Not sure whether it can be done but I'll check with them.

I might consider getting PB-12Plus. Square still 'in' and not outdated. Just that 'cyclinder' is something 'new'


The L.Y.N. SVS Subwoofer MO club (if Jadi)

PC12-Plus
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1)nakata101
2) jwyj
3)

PB12-Plus
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1) easternred
2) htkaki (still considering)
3)

PC12-NSD
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1)
2)

PB12-NSD
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1) lightning69
2) lexonline
3)

AS-EQ1
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1) Jack28HT
2)

PC13-Ultra
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1) mys_terious
2) Jack28HT (depends on cost)
3)

SB-12 Plus
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1) chinmh

This is PB-12NSD. RRP is USD569. If plus shipping and tax, that comes up to abt RM4,150

Mine is PC-12Plus. I am 'greedy' fella if you know me. Since the price difference of PC-12NSD is 'not that much', I took the heaviest plunge of my life.

I must admit that this is single most expensive 'investment' that I ever made throughout my 17 years of HT hobby.

actually, just in thinking process. Maybe will try to save enough and to avoid the upgrade process, I might consider the 13Ultra.

arremie, the shipping cost for both are almost identical. When you add in the hefty taxes, the difference becomes lesser.

Yes, abt RM4K+. The PC-12+ is slightly above RM5K.

Your calculation is quite near to it.

If I sell off mine (won't be happening soon), I have a ready buyer already

jwyj, auction? Fat hopes. Self collect as I wouldn't want to hurt my knee again shifting this monster

I knew about this. That's why I will be there.



Spot on. Different woofer. 12+ is 12.4" while NSD is 12.3". NSD is not using Bifilar wound, 3” USA Aluminum Voice Coil. The NSD doesn't go as low as 12+ and its power rating is 200W lower. (apart from the single port). That also might be the reason why the response curve aint as flat as 12+

Forgot to tell you. Don't expect the PC-12NSD to outperform your SPL-1200R. It would be the other way round. So, you have to buy PC-12+ for your upgrade.


Most probably in a 20' container by sea. Problem is that it will end up at my friend's warehouse. You guys need to come and collect. But, still can arrange transport to deliver to your doorstep for a fee. Payment would be up front since it ain't cheap. Have to wire transfer loads of $$$$ to SVS .

Now, I am eyeing the AS-EQ1. Hopefully, can get it by next month end.

You got my point Yes, no matter what, NSD could not go as lowe as 12+. Only that you get a 'fuller' bass and not so significant louder. The Response Curve of NSD is not that good.

Buying 2 NSD is costlier than 12+

You are interested in PB12Plus, right?

I am waiting for the quote and response from the floor. As it seems, not many are really keen. If it couldn't fill up to a 20' container. Then, I shall use air freight to bring it in. Will decide on Wednesday.

For the rest who is REALLY keen, pls update your name and model no. on the SVS list. If you are ordering on your own esp those in East Malaysia, just indicate (self-order) in the list. Tq




I am going there tomorrow to check the unit.

Today went to check out a PB-10NSD. Not bad for a 10".

I am still trying to find some time to do the parametric eq to maximise my PC12+ potential.

Aha, finally another one who understood it The feeling is priceless eh

Come to my pad on next Sat. Let you feel more

Velo SPL1200Ultra is abt RM6.8k. It is a big leap forward compare to CHT-12R. I am afraid that the PC12NSD will lose out to SPL1200Ultra. Very likely.

I think jwyj might have the same problem too since he is in Miri too.

Now, busy with acoustic treatment for the monstrous PC-12Plus

Bro, I am afraid that there is no improvement at all . Probably, 12NSD lose out to SPL as I mentioned earlier. The SPL-Ultra is using a 3" voice coil and judging from the spec, the woofer is no puny driver.

http://www.velodyne.com/products/specs/SPLUltraSpecs.html

Anyway, not trying to discourage to buy it. PC-12NSD is still a very good sub . Of course, CHT will simply 'blew apart' by it .

I am curious to know its performance. Once you have this, please contact jwyj to bring his SPL1200R over for a showdown .

The waiting list for SVS AS-EQ1 is miles long. Heard that it is now til August. I wonder whether I could get it soon if I buy this.

Btw, tested my SVS PC-12Plus for concert. Feels like in concert. I like my SVS PC-12Plus so much.

Bro, you ditched the REL? Gald to hear that another SVS member in da house