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post Dec 3 2009, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(mik_fong85 @ Dec 3 2009, 07:05 PM)
Just wanna share with u guys,
suppose i can start working from 1st Dec 2009 as the company was applying Spass for me. . . But unfortunately, my Spass get rejected and the company did appeal 1 more time and it also same result which rejected.
Find out whether the S Pass was rejected because of the company or because of you.

If it's the company, eg. over quota, or bad record etc - then easy. Just look for another company.

If it's because of you... ask why. Find out what's the hiccup.
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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Dec 4 2009, 11:20 AM)
My GF word permit rejected twice and after waited for 2 months, need to leave singapore and waited another month to come back. 3rd time only success.
Did she find out from the authorities why she was rejected twice and what changed their mind in the 3rd attempt?

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 5 2009, 06:09 PM)
just came back from JB. somebody was fighting at the bus stop in ICA building. but after going in today, i think i dun want to go to JB anymore. the traffic is dam bad and the feel is like in KL's Kota Raya, dam many indon/bangla.
I've been to JB only once for shopping/makan/jalan-jalan. It was very early on after I came to Singapore... when someone told me it made sense to earn in SG and spend in JB.

Seriously, I felt in JB exactly what I feel in Jakarta or Manila. That it's not very safe to look & act like a foreigner, to have any money in your pocket and walking around without a local companion. Just feels like everyone's either going to rob me or stab me... or both.

I have never been back since, and never intend to go back. JB may be part of Malaysia, but it feels like a mix between a cowboy town and an overcrowded slum, sprinkled with some fancy new buildings.
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 6 2009, 09:45 AM)
EMĀ  brows.gif
Mind if I ask if you're in upstream or downstream? Commercial or operations? If you're in olefins, we're your biggest competitor.


Added on December 6, 2009, 10:48 am
QUOTE(triangle-sun @ Dec 6 2009, 03:19 AM)
Hm.. Just out of curiosity. By reading replies from this thread, i know alot of you guys are now settling down in Spore for good.

But will there be a time when you'll go back to Msia for good?
I will be in Singapore as long as my job is here.

I like it here, but I wouldn't want to be an old person with no income in this place. So, I''m keeping my options open... if I'm married with kids, then obviously it'll be a much more complex choice with the wife's preferences and kids' education to think about. In that case, Singapore's probably a good option. But it'll also depend if I'm still here. If I'm posted elsewhere, I won't take the trouble to return to Singapore.

If I'm still alone when I retire, then I'm definitely going to retire home to Ipoh.

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 6 2009, 03:17 PM)
i signed up for a mobile broadband with m1 last week during SITEX, i just found out that they don't support P2P download. i called them up and say that i want to cancel the subscription, and they say cannot. what can i do now? they dun have such thing as 7 day return policy here in SG?? even malaysia have those law to protect consumer.
No lah, Malaysia doesn't have compulsory purchase refund laws. In fact no country does. Otherwise what's stopping you from buying something, using it for 7 days and then returning it? All sales is on a willing buyer, willing seller contractual basis. Unless you can prove they misled you and ie. sold you something that's actually different from what they told you you were buying, you have no recourse. And rightly so.

For tangible products, some retailers like Carrefour and Robinsons have a refund or exchange policy. But it's up to them to define their policy, and once established, that policy forms part of the offer and acceptance in the sales & purchase contract.

For services like telco services, you sign a very detailed contract that spells out exactly what you contracted for. I'll be willing to bet that M1's contract has a best effort, bandwidth shaping and no returns/refunds clauses. I doubt that they will be like the new banking rules, where contracts to invest have a cooling off period.

You're stuck, I'm afraid.


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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 6 2009, 08:54 PM)
how to try if u dun sign up for it??  now that i have signed up, i find it sux and they say i cant terminate even it is within 1 week. no mood liao..
Should have just bought a prepaid M1 simcard and tried the 3G data. Uses the same bandwidth and backbone as mobile bb.

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Dec 7 2009, 08:55 PM)
I heard for basic savings, UOB has the best interest rate.
I find that Maybank isavvy has the best rates for a savings account which you can withdraw / deposit at will... ie. your money is not tied up. But the minimum balance is 5K, IIRC.
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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Dec 8 2009, 10:19 AM)
Hi, I wanna ask if you guys intend to go to KL or Ipoh, would you prefer to take a bus or plane?

If by plane, Airasia, Tiger or Jetstar?

I calculated the duration of both choices, actually, there are almost the same.
If you're going to Ipoh, only Firefly flies direct from SIN to IPH.

I've tried flying SIN-KUL LCCT and take the coach from LCCT to Ipoh... torture. I rather pay a bit more and fly direct.

These days, I take the 2.30pm flight from SIN Budget Terminal on Friday and touch down in IPH at 4pm. Back home, showered and ready for action at 4.30pm. It's great.

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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Dec 8 2009, 03:02 PM)
What plane model is that? Izit Fokker-50? or similar to Airasia A320 model?
Firefly flies the European twin turboprop ATR 72-500. Only slightly slower than a jet (IPH-SIN is 1h:20m, while IPH-JHB on AirAsia 737 was 1h flat).

It's quite comfy. I like the fact that it's small (72 seater) because you never have to wait long to check in, to board, to disembark or for your luggage. The maximum number of people you have to queue up behind is 71.

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Slightly OT, but since Starhub + M1 launched the iPhone 3GS today... what do you guys think?

iPhone 3GS or Nokia E72? Under Starhub recontract.
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 10 2009, 01:03 AM)
are you under corporate plan ?
Yeah, my expired plan included the 30% corp discount.


Added on December 10, 2009, 8:58 am
QUOTE(chess_gal @ Dec 10 2009, 08:07 AM)
iphone if you like touch screen, but i prefer qwert board. Easier to type.
I agree. I'm using an E63 now. I used to have the HTC Touch but the touch screen was rather hard to type quickly on. Not sensitive enough.


Added on December 10, 2009, 9:01 am
QUOTE(kockroach @ Dec 10 2009, 08:51 AM)
3GS or Blackberry. Nokia with limited function.
You mean the downloadable apps, right? To me, there's nothing much to choose between the E72 and BB Bold. I can get a lot of Java apps for the Nokia (Symbian) to match BB. But the Apple apps are something else.


Added on December 10, 2009, 9:04 am
QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Dec 10 2009, 08:54 AM)
Am on the headache to choose either 1 of these 2. My target would be E72, but currently it is not stable yet, still lot of bugs, need to wait for new firmware. smile.gif
Firmware updates should be quite fast. I've had my E63 for about 9 months and I've already updated the firmware twice via Nokia PC Suite.

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Looking for the Starhub iphone surfplan huh?Ā  brows.gif
Ya, the S$38 (or $48 after the free Caller ID & Roaming finishes after 3 months). 12GB data is quite good, can tether to my laptop.

But my main concern for the iPhone is the crap battery life (not even a day long under medium-heavy use). Touch screen feels better than the HTC, but still nowhere the same as a proper qwerty keyboard.

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QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Dec 10 2009, 09:12 AM)
Go for E72 then. You seems to have your own answer already, I believe you are attract with the application in iphone? smile.gif
Ya, I like the E72 because I already like the E63 and its keyboard. And since I will use both phones (Maxis & Starhub), syncing will be easier, can share chargers, data cables, accessories etc.

But the Apple apps and games are really good. And nobody can't touch the iPhone at surfing the net in a kopitiam.


Added on December 10, 2009, 10:20 am
QUOTE(kockroach @ Dec 10 2009, 09:13 AM)
What is the improvement after the firmware update for E63.
Noticeably better reception & call quality. Less lag when multitasking and although the battery life was supposed to improve, I don't really notice it.


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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 11 2009, 01:22 AM)
I'm still waiting for M1 and StarHub to work out their corporate plans. Planning to get a 2nd iPhone. Been using the 3GS for a couple of months, it's great for ppl who's on the road often, lot's of useful apps too.
From hardwarezone, apparently the corp individual scheme (CIS) discounts are from 10%-30% depending on which company you're from and which smartsurf plan you take.

How's the 3GS battery life been for you? Nightly recharging necessary?

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QUOTE(depster666 @ Dec 15 2009, 10:47 PM)
office at international business park, the synergy..Ā  dont have any idea where to stay yet... a typical family of 4, 2 adults and 2 kids..
Live comfortably... ok.

Rental: 1500 for a 2 bedroom HDB, but with 2 kids, you'd probably want 3 bedrooms, so 1800-2000 depending location. If you want the facilities like a pool & gym, 2500 or so for private condo.

Utilities: 200 per month for electricity, water and gas. And 300 for 2 phone lines, 1 home broadband and cable tv.

Food: family of 4... let's say, 300 a week on groceries and 2 nice dinners on the weekend for 150 per dinner. So, around 1800... let's say 2000 including treats and special events etc.

Transport: with 2 kids and a comfy lifestyle, you need a car. Take a reliable Korean 1.6L with a 5 year loan, let's say 1500 per month, all inclusive ie. instalment, road tax, insurance, ERP, petrol, maintenance and parking.

Shopping.... entirely up to you lah. But let's say 500 per month for toiletries, cosmetics, health supplements, diapers whatever. And another 500-1000 for gadgets, laptops, clothes, shoes, handbags, toys, movies, theme parks etc.

Then add another 200-300 a month towards a sinking fund for any emergencies, large purchases, holidays, school excursions etc.

So, all in all... around 7K a month. Pretty realistic, I think. If your kids go to private schools, then another 1500-2500 per month each.


Added on December 15, 2009, 11:35 pm
QUOTE(keelim @ Dec 15 2009, 11:22 PM)
I just bought an iPhone from StarHub at a corporate discount. This phone is really great and very dynamic. On a dollar to dollar basis is so much affordable compared to maxis package.
Just recontracted yesterday with Starhub for a Nokia E72 with the iPhone smartsurf plan. No more corp discount for me though because my company has apparently dropped off Starhub's list of corp customers vmad.gif

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QUOTE(depster666 @ Dec 15 2009, 11:56 PM)
Thanks... is it possible to bring and drive a M'sian car in Sg?
Not if you're residing in Singapore. There are certain rules and conditions depending on whether you're an employment permit holder or PR, but generally after a while, your car cannot remain in Sg overnight. So, only if you stay outside Sg (ie. in My) but work in Sg, you can drive a My car into Sg each day, but the car has to leave Sg for a certain minimum number of hours each day as well.

Do a search of this thread for my username and some keywords like "driving, PR, WP, EP, cars" etc. I remember summarising it somewhere.

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And which part is this intl business, synergy located?
One of the industrial estates on the edges of Singapore. I can't remember which one though. Generally 30-40 minutes by car to the CBD/Orchard.

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QUOTE(depster666 @ Dec 16 2009, 12:19 AM)
1 more q, if my income tax is taken care by the employer, what about the EPF (or equivalent)? Manual contribution or just like the normal salary deduction process?
Income tax and employee CPF need to be paid by the employee.

If your employer is giving you tax protection, then they will pay your tax payable of course, but in your name.

If you don't have tax protection, then you send a cheque each year to the tax dept after you get your tax return from them. Of course, the company may 'facilitate' this for you using monthly salary witholding or something but at the end of the day, you are personally liable to the tax dept.

CPF is applicable only if you're a PR. The employee portion is a monthly salary deduction by the employer and remitted directly to CPF.

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QUOTE(depster666 @ Dec 16 2009, 12:55 AM)
So, if i go in on a tax-free, non PR, then I dont have to contribute to CPF,.. correct?
Korek.


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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Dec 16 2009, 07:58 AM)
Tax free? Is your tax absorbed by your company?
It's pretty common. The employer either bears all your tax, as a perk, or equalises your net tax to a reference country. Makes it easier to move from Singapore or HK to a high tax country like China, or Australia or the West.


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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Dec 16 2009, 05:39 PM)
IMO bishan and jurong east is pretty far away, you might need to consider the travel time and the transport fee. MRT traffic at peak hour is awesome. Personally I would prefer to save time and stay near the working place with good landlord n housemates. If you want to save the hassle dealing with house owner, stay with ur relative smile.gif
Good landlord... those are the keywords.

But then again, if your relatives are fussy and everyone's living together in a shoebox... might be better to stay outside.


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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Dec 16 2009, 05:34 PM)
i just got a jiob @ international business park at jurong east

a) rent a room near there n walk/take bus.. rent room around that area how much?

b) stay with my relatives at bishan... got 2 place... one is condo 'the gardens' @ bishan... another is a terrace opposite junction8/bishan mrt... if i stay with my relatives of course i will give them some $$$ ler.. althought they are rich... but i have to take mrt everyday wor... their place has cable/intarnuts n all...

is it worth d travel everyday? it surely will be better living at my relative's palce... but of course cost more i think... cause of mrt
Staying in Bishan is great. I loved it. People less ah beng compared to Ang Mo Kio but less lansi than central district. Food also not bad. Opposite Junction8 is very convenient as the MRT and bus interchange is next to it. Gardens@Bishan is quite far from Junction8. 20-30m walk or feeder bus.

There are direct buses from Bishan interchange to Jurong East (No. 52 or 53, iirc. Probably 40-50 minute bus ride. But you can sleep as you board at the first stop (interchange) and can get a seat). When the city circle line opens in a year or two, you can take a train from Bishan to Buono Vista (6 stns) and from there, it's only 3 stns to Jurong East. And these are majority inner city stns (1-2 minutes between stns) rather than mainly outer city stns (3-6 minutes between stns) if you take the Nth-Sth line from Bishan to Jurong East.


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QUOTE(depster666 @ Dec 16 2009, 06:05 PM)
About Prosafe.. or rather, in detail, Prosafe Production, any info anyone, the working culture, environment, etc, aside from those u can google ?(mostly bunch of corporate infos). Need to consider the company as well.. whether its really worth to make the move from where I am atm..
No idea... never heard of it. But google turned up a Finnish stock listing... Finnish companies quite okay, I guess. Finns are supposed to be great humanitarians, egalitarians and very into universal welfare. Should translate into the same kind of company culture?


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QUOTE(depster666 @ Dec 16 2009, 06:26 PM)
Ahh.. i think its the wrong prosafe lah.  The one i'm interested is the norwegian Prosafe, FPSO co. based in Sg. I got to know about them when I was approached last week.
Norwegian, Finnish... still Scandinavian lah. Close enough tongue.gif

Shld be ok I guess, my friends at Nokia, Ericsson (before it became SonyEricsson) were quite happy with the company culture.

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Worth the move ka?
That's entirely dependent on what you're giving up in Malaysia, in your current job. Additional income is a given (only thing is whether the net increase meets your hurdle rate). Make sure you don't forget stuff like deferred stock, stock options, deferred bonuses, pension or health plans and other employee retention stuff like that which you'll give up if you leave prematurely. If you have this stuff coming to you, then you'd better ask for a sign on bonus.

But then there's also job security. Take a look at their financial statements as far back as you can find and see what's their profit, dividend & revenue growth trends, whether the number of employees is growing... that should give you a good idea whether it's traditionally a good paymaster and if their biz model is sustainable.

Then see what the future prospects are vs your current job. Since you're part of their Asian business, try to see what their strategy for Asia is. Growth engine, cash cow or token presence. For eg. are they investing, hiring, building etc. Your progression depends entirely on this... otherwise they'd better have a vibrant expat program for Asians to go West.

Also, if you're on the high potential or future leader program in your current company... then you'd have to consider whether it's worth giving that up. Makes a huge difference how fast you go up the ladder. And if a couple of accelerated promotions can catch you up with this current offer, then it might not be worth the risk to leave and have to establish your network and credibility all over again.

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QUOTE(depster666 @ Dec 16 2009, 10:35 PM)
I'm with Shell atm. Mid mgmt level. Monetary wise, of coz its better since its paying in SGD+tax free, while currently I'm paid in MYR. Other perks, well, hard to tell.. since i dunno shit abt this prosafe 'cept for their corp info. Yeah, if i'm leaving my current paymaster, i would tend to lose the stock options, medical health plan and what not, which are currently better than prosafe.
Sounds like it's just the exchange rate making the difference.

In that case, why don't you ask Shell for a transfer to Sg? They'll pay you the local Sg pay scale. You keep all your accumulated benefits and don't have to start all over again.

If you play your cards right and convince the Sg side to 'request' for your services, you could well con a promotion or a relo package or even expat package out of them.


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