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post Oct 29 2009, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Oct 29 2009, 07:38 PM)
Its an example really. Plus isnt gutteruncensored on and off again?

Having trouble with Google. The guy shld really just pay for his own site. He gets enough traffic.

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Actually both the mom (divorcee) and son are at fault coz the son who is in sec 1 (13years old if i am correct) still doesnt want 2 flush his pee or poop, the reason why is coz his mom does it for him so he has been brought up till now with his mom flushing the toilet for him. And his mom actually came and told me not to worry since if she is around, she will flush on her sons behalf. The reason why the mom does it for her son since she give up trying to teach him to flush the toilet after himself.
Damn... blink.gif

The mother has to flush his poo away... rclxub.gif

Better don't complain. If the mother ie. landlady cannot see an issue with pooing without flushing... she probably can't see anything wrong with stealing the girl's underwear as well.

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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Oct 31 2009, 09:25 PM)
I wanted to ask if you are given a choice, would you like to work in

1) Shenton Way, Orchard, City Hall, Raffles Place area

OR

2) Tuas, Woodlands, Lim Chu Kang area?
I definitely choose (1).

My office is on Orchard Rd but we have another office and a lab also in Tuas. I've been to the Tuas sites numerous times... and I have not enjoyed the trip even once. It's far (30+ minutes to get there by taxi), lots of traffic jams, nothing to eat during lunch if you don't drive out and if you call for a taxi, the operator always tells you 'no taxi'. Oh... McD's or Pizzahut delivery.... they don't deliver to Tuas if you order is less than $200 or something. One time, we had to offer to pay for their staff's taxi fare before they agreed to deliver.

Working on Orchard is pretty fun. Lots of things to see, eat, shop etc.


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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Oct 31 2009, 12:31 PM)
went for medical check up for my S pass on monday, untill now still no news from my company. during the check up, the doctor do found out that i have mild diabetis. Does it mean i failed the test? But the X-ray check doctor told me nothing wrong with my x-ray.
No lah, won't fail because of pre-diabetes. The X-ray is to check for TB and the blood test for HIV.


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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Oct 31 2009, 09:43 PM)
1) Free transport for most of the companies
It's not a benefit, right?

I can take a train or bus to Orchard. But it'll take more than 2 hours to get to Tuas by public transport from town.

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2) Higher salary by about 10% (this is what I heard)
Not in my company. If you earn S$10K, they'll give you 1K extra because you work there?

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3) The food is cheaper than you eat in city area.
50 cents to a buck per meal is not a big deal lah. I really think this point is grossly over-rated. At most, you spend $20 more a month at Orchard.

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4) Easier for ppl living in Johor and work in Tuas or Woodlands.
Doesn't apply to everyone. I think it applies to only a small minority of white collar Malaysians working in Singapore.

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QUOTE(evilnickwong @ Nov 1 2009, 01:17 AM)
Anyone here know about the 15% withholding tax?

I just started work here recently and my company HR said that for the first 7 months, I will have 15% salary deducted as withholding tax. And she said it will be refunded to be when 1) resign or 2) become PR.

I thought it would just be used as a form of monthly deduction for annual income tax purposes, but she said no. Anyone care to enlighten me on this? 15% is alot. -.-
You need to tell your company's HR girl to find another job. She has no idea what she's doing.

Like hkhk pointed out, the only thing that matters is the length of your working stay in Singapore. If it exceeds 183 days, you're a tax resident (ie. no withholding tax and you file a tax return at the end of the year). If it's less than 183, you're a tax non-resident (ie. the company withholds 15% of your salary).

Ref IRAS. Go through all the linked pages to gather ammunition against your company HR girl.

Since your company obviously hired you as a permanent employee in Singapore, you are going to work more than 183 days. So they shouldn't withhold anything for tax. But if your HR insists they don't know whether you will resign and run away before 183 days, then they might withhold 15%.

But if you work more than 183 days, they need to refund to you ALL the 15% they deducted from your salary for the first 6 months. You will file a tax return at the end of the year and pay your own tax as a tax resident.

If you resign before 183 days, then your HR should remit the withheld 15% to IRAS. Not refund it to you.

Becoming a PR has nothing to do with whether you are a tax resident or not. The only thing that matters is the number of days you work in Sg.

Like I said, your company's HR girl needs to find another job.


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post Nov 3 2009, 08:43 PM

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Don't worry about the Singapore against foreigners thing. Every once in a while, Singaporeans will get worked up over it. And the govt will come up with something to distinguish citizens from PRs, and hopefully silence the dissent. But the Singapore govt is much more pragmatic about the situation than many of the public. This is something that was blogged more than 2 years ago... the last time when the anti-PR/Foreigner thing was bubbling up.

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This letter which appeared in the Today newspaper is typical of the attitude of Singaporean heartlanders* when it concerns professional immigrants (or "foreign talent" as the govt likes to call them).

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* in Malaysia-speak - heartlander is similar to "kampung / Jinjang / ulu / ah beng-ah lian."

Heartlanders are pissed off about foreign talent because:

1. Foreign talents are taking jobs away from Singaporeans. They help themselves to the economic opportunities in Singapore, but...

2. ... they decline to become citizens, preferring instead to remain PRs (Permanent Residents) or WPs (Work Permits)....

3. ...because they don't want to shoulder an equal burden for the sustenance of Singapore in the form of national service.

Let me try to enlighten Singaporeans who are still oblivious to their 'situation'... or predicament as I'd call it.

Foreigners create jobs in Singapore. They take up jobs which wouldn't exist in the first place if they weren't there. Howzat, you ask?

Singapore has a shrinking local population. They don't breed enough to replace themselves. What follows is a dwindling population that gets older and older, and less and less productive. Without foreigners to supply the additional hands and wallets, many jobs wouldn't exist. Simply because there would be no critical mass in terms of talent (pool of people of sufficient nationalities, cultures and skills to employ from) and in terms of market (greater demand for goods and services) to create those jobs in the first place. Foreign talent is like foreign investment. They bring resources along with them to Singapore, and the economic multiplier works its magic. Without foreigners, Singaporeans are deluding themselves if they think that the big MNCs, international trade, tourists and high value industries would have been there anyway.

Singaporeans cannot keep fantasising that they have somehow singlehandedly produced this grand economic buffet, and foreigners are only now coming at the closing stages to tuck in to it. The Singapore economy is a product of both Singaporean and foreign hands and both parties partake equitably from it. Both reap only what they themselves have sown.

As for national service... think of it this way. Singaporeans spend a couple of years doing it. After which they think they are Jesus Christ, having "sacrificed and suffered" for all mankind. Wake up and smell the roses. Foreign talent uproot themselves from their homes, families and everything dear to them... for tens of years (if not permanently) to come to Singapore. And in the process, they expose themselves to the unestimable vagaries and hardships of migration and take up jobs that Singaporeans are unwilling to do, or are unable to do in sufficient numbers. That is the migrant's sacrifice for Singapore. If you ask me, doing a couple years of army training at a camp 30 minutes away from their HDB homes via MRT or feeder bus - pales in the harsh light of comparison. Some foreigners, like the Taiwanese and Koreans have put in their years of national service... albeit in a country other than Singapore. How does one reconcile that?

In addition, Singaporeans themselves migrate overseas in large numbers, and usually at the most productive stage of their lives (economically and biologically). This is an issue which heartlanders seem to ignore... choosing instead to harp on 'unreliable' PRs / WPs instead of questioning 'disloyal' citizens. Who do they think values Singapore more? PRs and WPs who are actually there on the island or citizens who are somewhere else? Who's paying Singapore taxes? Who's standing in front of their faces right now, pissing them off, stepping up to be counted where it matters?

Lastly, former Indonesian President Habibie once said that Singapore is a little red dot in a sea of green. Singapore depends on migrants from other countries to survive. That is a fact of life. In many ways, the dependency is largely reciprocal. Singapore needs foreign skills and labour to maintain it's affluence and way of life. Foreigners need Singapore to improve their standards of living.

But at the end of the day, though Singaporeans may only admit it within the deepest recesses of their minds, they know that the relationship is not equal. Without foreigners, Singapore disappears into oblivion. Without Singapore, foreigners simply go elsewhere. They will only keep coming to Singapore and keep its economic wheel turning, if Singapore manages to keep itself attractive to them. Like for foreign investment, one of the main attractions is the freedom to come and go.

Foreigners need Singapore, but Singapore needs them more. Stop b****ing and live with it.

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QUOTE(Computer^freak @ Nov 8 2009, 08:48 PM)
Can anyone share their working experience in accounting/audit related field in SG. What's the working culture like and so on. Kiasu culture really that bad or exaggerated ?
It is really that bad.

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QUOTE(ChaSm @ Nov 9 2009, 09:44 AM)
It's different.. Australia's working culture is better.. Working hours isn't as bad and accounts are perhaps generally "cleaner".. Also, the firms takes better care of their staffs.. In general, a western country working culture is better than asians.. Or so i've bene told.. smile.gif
If you're an ambitious Asian person (or worse Asian + non-Aussie), Singapore is miles better than Australia in terms of career advancement and opportunity. And I've actually worked a full time accounting job in Melbourne before. The old boys network is strong with the Aussies. For eg, if you can't discuss the weekend Aussie rules matches on Monday morning, you're practically out of the loop.


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QUOTE(milkshooter @ Nov 9 2009, 02:10 PM)
What quality of life?
The kind of life where I can buy new stuff and not feel like I'm depriving my unborn children of their education.

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Nov 9 2009, 11:14 PM)
Crap man, I just bought Samsung Omnia Pro cause Iphone package is so expensive (Monthly +dataplan). Last week I was still on prepaid (Already 2 years), starhub happy 128, it last me for 1.5 month for just $28. Then contemplating to get a iphone but no corporate discount and it would cost me $50 per month when I cant even utilise $20 per month. So finally decided on Samsung Omnia Pro($48 only), monthly about $30++ plus data plan after corporate discount. I bought it last night, and starhub & M1 just announced it TODAY!!!
Starhub announced today. Shares went up.

M1 however announced sometime last month. You didn't read it?

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 10 2009, 11:12 AM)
It will be from airport to Conconrde Hotel. Around 30 minutes journey. So how much is the cab fee?
A lot depends on the time & day. Airport surcharge is either $3 or $5 depending on day/holiday. There are peak hour (35%) and late night surcharges (up to 50%) as well. ERP (toll) is also dependent on time of day and which day. It can range from $0.50 to $3.50 PER gantry (toll plaza). Some roads can have quite a few gantries. No one can give you the exact fare, but S$30 should be able to cover it. But if you kena max airport surcharge, peak hour surcharge plus whack a few high traffic ERP gantries during peak hour... bring $50 just in case. You can pay using credit card but got 10% service fee.

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QUOTE(iL99Jk0 @ Nov 10 2009, 02:47 PM)
Monthly installments for a BMW 5 Series is only $1,300+ whereas for a Toyota Wish (2010 new edition) is just merely $600+
That's for a 10 year loan.

Some other costs of car ownership...

- insurance (2000-5000 per year depending age, licence and model of car).
- road tax (600 per year for 1.4, 1200 for 2.0 etc).
- servicing (300-500 per service)
- petrol (150-200 per week)
- parking (200 office season + 150 HDB season).
- ERP

On average... add another 1000 minimum, to 2000 per month for running costs.

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QUOTE(precursor80 @ Nov 10 2009, 06:29 PM)
You can use this to calculate. It tells you the fare +- SGD5.

http://gothere.sg/

There, I selected for you. Remember to change to taxi and the time since surcharge are calculated as well.
http://gothere.sg/directions#Airport:concorde%20hotel
This is a pretty good tool... thanks.

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QUOTE(casgy @ Nov 11 2009, 11:20 AM)
The cost of ownership described by you is at the high side.

Own a 1.6l saloon. Here is my breakdown
- insurance (~$750, 50% NCD and me uncle mah)
- road tax (~$750  https://vrl.lta.gov.sg/lta/vrl/action/pubfu...RoadTaxByEngCap )
- servicing (Twice a year - approx $150 per service - not authorized workshop as my car > 3 years liao)
- petrol (250 per month, ~60km daily)
- parking (Office - Free parking +  $63.70 HDB season with 2% discount if paid by GIRO).
- ERP (varies)
Yours is on the extreme low side... and like you said, probably more applicable to uncles driving Nissan Sunnys.

Insurance is expensive when you have no NCD (never owned a Singaporean car), just converted your licence and targeting something a little more flashy than a Corolla. 2 door cars, those classified as "sports/performance" get a heavy premium penalty.

Servicing... unless you buy a 2nd hand car, you will send it to a dealer workshop for the first few years. No choice if you want the warranty. Kia however, is offering 3 years free servicing.

Petrol... $250/mth or ~ 150 litres of petrol for 60km daily (1800km per month) is very good urban fuel consumption (12km/L). Most cars and drivers will get 6-9km/L.

Parking... free office parking? No such luck in you work in town. Where I am, it's S$200/mth. Thanks for the correction on HDB season rates.

ERP... yes it varies, but it's definitely there especially if you like to drive to work during normal working hours.
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QUOTE(unitedfc9612 @ Nov 17 2009, 08:44 AM)
Hi anybody here is working in singapore government department?

malaysian (SPR) can work there ma?
Yes, of course SPRs can work there. Many front line workers are even employment pass holders. Only certain jobs like in sensitive ministries like MINDEF, MOF, Home Team or EDB etc are out of bounds for non-Singaporeans.

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QUOTE(giorgene @ Nov 18 2009, 02:07 PM)
Any idea how to check the exact period staying in Singapore?
You can't remember which day you arrived in Singapore, and which day you left? Why must you 'check'?

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QUOTE(unitedfc9612 @ Nov 19 2009, 04:15 PM)
hw u know?smile.gif
I might seem like a bad tempered, crusty old fart... but in real life... I do have friends. And I'm not a shy person. I talk to the people I meet every day to find out about them.


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which minstry/department?
You want me to list them out?

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By the way, this thread has become 100 pages long again. Before anyone has any bright ideas that we are "not allowed" to have threads exceeding 100 pages... THAT'S NOT TRUE. Ask the mod, look at the other super threads. Personally I don't see any need at all for a new thread.

So before you create another thread, do ask the people in this thread first if they want a new one before taking matters into your own hands. At least have the decency to make sure you have the support of the majority of regular posters here, instead of pulling a "nasi sudah menjadi bubur" stunt.

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QUOTE(rayray @ Nov 20 2009, 10:43 PM)
Can I use my academic transcript to apply jobs in SG?
If you have completed your degree, then not a problem. Get a formal letter of completion from your university to prove that you have fulfilled all requirements and that you will be conferred a degree at the said date.

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Another question, what is the average pay for an executive position in office, lets say a marketing executive?
Really depends on the size of the company, MNC or not, whether you are applying for a job that's in demand or not etc. 2000-2500 rule of thumb, I think.

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Lastly, do they still hire Malaysian fresh graduates nowadays??
Yes, why not?

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QUOTE(wseng @ Nov 29 2009, 08:35 PM)
I got something to share but also wanna confirm if my info is correct.

My job requires me to drive in SG. I've called and checked with the traffic police and on the web.

Stated that Malaysian can drive in Singapore with the following conditions :
- Have Employment pass
- Only for the first 12 months of holding employment pass
- Have a valid malaysian license

if PR conditions below :
- Must convert Malaysian license to SG license.
- Only can drive SG cars

But so far I've driven company car in SG for a week. and didn't meet with any problems.
The conditions are for Malaysians who are Singapore residents (ie. have residency status like PR or pass holder).

If a Malaysian comes into Singapore as a tourist, he can use his Malaysian license to drive Singapore cars (eg. when you rent) or Malaysian cars (ie. pay S$20 a day).

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QUOTE(Syrian @ Dec 1 2009, 10:12 PM)
oh, i haf personally sent in resume to the big 4 ... it's jz that i heard it's much easier to enter if being referred rather than stand alone application.  Anyway, I've sent in my qualifications, experience, etc ... he he.
Out of curiousity, did you really expect anyone here to actually give you a personal referral? They would be putting their reputation on the line when they don't even know you.

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Dec 2 2009, 12:54 PM)
not in big 4 singapore, unless you request for it, there are some protocol and procedures to follow. Never bother to find out though.
I think that's when you refer a new client, not a prospective hire.

Why would the firm pay you for recommending someone to work there?

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Dec 2 2009, 02:35 PM)
Msia big 4 actually provide some incentive to referree from RM500 to few thousand ringgit for experienced hires (>2 years). One of my friend jumped from KPMG to PWC and both she and her friend shared the referral commission. But the practice is not so prevalent in singapore.
Gee, times have sure changed.

Back in my days, PW had to beat away job applicants with a stick to keep them from jamming the doors. They could have charged an application fee rather pay a referral fee.

My impression was that prospective hire referral fees were only for MLM companies, agencies (insurance, real estate) and service companies that didn't have strong enough reputations and standing to attract top calibre candidates.

But I still don't understand the rationale why the Big4 will pay a referral fee or commission. It's not like the referred new hire wouldn't have known about the firm without someone referring him to it. If he wanted to join, he would have applied even if nobody referred him.

I would have thought that sign-on bonuses would be more effective to attract new employees, especially experienced ones where the bonus will compensate them for the loss of tenure at their previous employer.


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