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 Tarantula Thread V11, Either you love em or hate em

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aros
post Jun 2 2009, 12:23 AM

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the body u mince little2 oso ler and give the other T.

btw if u are thinking of using ants and mosquito.

It is not advisable because first they might have pesticide that they carry with them that might be lethal to your T.

Second, you don't know what kind of mites/diseases that can jump to you T and cause other unwanted zoonotic disease due to mutation and what not.

Third, the ants/mosquito if not pre-killed can threat your T as well.

Fourth, they might not eat it at all.

It is not a matter of cruel, it's the food chain, u have to understand that.
Unless you are a vegetarian, you should be aware that you are doing the same things to cow and chicken too, then why not consider as cruel? Well easy, its because that is how life goes.

So feel free to 'slaughter' the crickets and mealworms to ur T.

And oh please, don ask whether you can train the T to eat carrot for a change tongue.gif

btw liewxin,
I noticed that you are new here,
Welcome and enjoy your stay! smile.gif

there is a lot of thing that we can share,
I learn a lot from you as much as you learn from me

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post Jun 2 2009, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(aros @ Jun 1 2009, 07:26 AM)
it is actually the uncontrol ecotourism and irresponsibilities of the residents that introduce the habitat the tarantula habitat to the tourist.

And the next day they were excavated and sold off in their country.

That is why somehow our local species can be found/easily be found oversea rather than in our land.

Exploitation.

I don't mean to blame others, as we can see here, greed is the main reason why and all of us should take this responsibility as a whole to help spread awareness.

If you can't give speech and what not, it is best alone that you have the awareness and goes strict against wild caught.

When the buying stop, the hunting will too.
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The taking of species from the wild to be sold to hobbyists may be a good thing. A few decades ago, there was a species of hawk/falcon (don't remember the species) that was very near extinction. Thanks to a few falconers who gave up their birds, they were able to start a breeding program and reintroduce the species into the wild again. The main problem with many animals facing extinction is the destruction of their habitat. Who knows, maybe one day when the destruction stops, it will be up to hobbyists to try to reintroduce the species back to the wild again.
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post Jun 2 2009, 01:14 AM

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if there is any wild anymore...
aros
post Jun 2 2009, 01:18 AM

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The taking of species from the wild to be sold to hobbyists may be a good thing. A few decades ago, there was a species of hawk/falcon (don't remember the species) that was very near extinction. Thanks to a few falconers who gave up their birds, they were able to start a breeding program and reintroduce the species into the wild again. The main problem with many animals facing extinction is the destruction of their habitat. Who knows, maybe one day when the destruction stops, it will be up to hobbyists to try to reintroduce the species back to the wild again.


Yes I would have to agree because the awareness usually rise within the hobbyist itself.

For conservation wise, it is professional to do so. Yes I have to support that. But wiping out the whole species without considering the population I would rather say it is greedy rather than the good side of breeding it. And what not this act of over harvesting are also one of the main contribution that threat the population.

I was talking about exploitation by the way, by any means even it is under the name of 'herping' but with bad intentions, it should be oppose.

My none-cents.


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post Jun 2 2009, 05:07 AM

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QUOTE(Foxngn @ Jun 1 2009, 04:55 AM)
Maybe i just make a fuss, is it common for a sling not eat for around 2 or 3 weeks? its not its molting period, since it last molt it just months ago
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it is not uncommon for slings with big butts to not eat for a couple of weeks. On the other hand, if its butt is getting smaller and it does not eat then there might be a problem. I had a sling that pounced on a mealworm and it struggled with it for a second then let it go. Never ate the worm and never acted normal after that. Would not burrow- it died a few weeks later. I think it might have been injured during the struggle. I also have a couple of G. pulchra slings that would come out after a molt, I'd feed it heavily for a few days, their butts get fat, then they go into hiding again till they molt.


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QUOTE(east_wing @ Jun 1 2009, 01:52 AM)
hey..got gud news..my nhandu just finish molt this morning  blush.gif  ....but i've a question..huhuhuh~
emm...y my T just molt without any sign...coz i checked dis morning,nothing happen (just like everyday)..then after i finished class around 12pm.when i look at it,i noticed there are another T in the container.hahhaaha..so0 shocked,it was the "kulit"maa~
here some pic..soo0o sorry coz the pic is blur coz i used my fren phone and try to edit it but it became worst..sory...

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Grats on the molt. I've heard some T's will eat right up to the day they molt. Never experienced it myself- I tend to feed my T's 3 or 4 cricks at a time till their butts get to a decent size then feed them every once in a while whenever I have extra crickets.


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QUOTE(liewxin @ Jun 1 2009, 08:27 AM)
hey guys, 1 question ya... i jst get a small sp blue and orange baboon. i found out it's a bit cruel 2 tore either de cricket's hind leg apart or cut mealworms apart jst to feed them, can i feed them v mosquito instead, which i found easier than those insects. or ant?
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Cockroaches would be better than mosquitoes and ants. But you also have the pesticide issue to deal with unless you can be bothered to breed your own cockroaches. I don't know if you can get your hands on some exotic cockroaches over there but B. dubia or B. discoidales(and a few others) are much easier to keep- they can't climb glass/plastic and they can't fly so your risk of an infestation is reduced. You can feed the roach nymphs to your slings. But even if you do decide to breed cockroaches, it'll take you months before your colony can be harvested. So looks like you are stuck with mealworms and crickets for now.

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Foxngn
post Jun 2 2009, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(Oldfart @ Jun 2 2009, 05:07 AM)
it is not uncommon for slings with big butts to not eat for a couple of weeks.  On the other hand, if its butt is getting smaller and it does not eat then there might be a problem.  I had a sling that pounced on a mealworm and it struggled with it for a second then let it go.  Never ate the worm and never acted normal after that.  Would not burrow- it died a few weeks later.  I think it might have been injured during the struggle.  I also have a couple of G. pulchra slings that would come out after a molt, I'd feed it heavily for a few days, their butts get fat, then they go into hiding again till they molt.
Then i think my one would be in the other situation.
Cause my Suntiger been molted almost months ago, & it doesn't eat at all, & the butt is getting small.. as for my GBB i think still understandable, since it just molted a week more, & its butt also small, but not smaller than the suntiger.

I wonder does i need to give a half dead complete mealworm to them eat or not, since a half dead is still have movement. As currrently im giving them a chop off.
But chop off mealworm turns black very fast. If not chop off, the mealworm size is bigger than them.
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post Jun 2 2009, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(Foxngn @ Jun 1 2009, 04:40 PM)
Then i think my one would be in the other situation.
Cause my Suntiger been molted almost months ago, & it doesn't eat at all, & the butt is getting small.. as for my GBB i think still understandable, since it just molted a week more, & its butt also small, but not smaller than the suntiger.

I wonder does i need to give a half dead complete mealworm to them eat or not, since a half dead is still have movement. As currrently im giving them a chop off.
But chop off mealworm turns black very fast. If not chop off, the mealworm size is bigger than them.
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Some T's are picky eaters. Try something else. I have a C. huahini that will not eat a live mealworm but I throw in a couple of crickets and it pounces. I have T's that will eat cockroaches and some that won't. Sometimes a T needs more movement by the prey to elicit a feeding response.

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post Jun 2 2009, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Oldfart @ Jun 2 2009, 09:13 AM)
Some T's are picky eaters.  Try something else.  I have a C. huahini that will not eat a live mealworm but I throw in a couple of crickets and it pounces.  I have T's that will eat cockroaches and some that won't.  Sometimes a T needs more movement by the prey to elicit a feeding response.
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hmm.. i think i'll try to let it takes some live mealworm first, hopefully its will not freak out, as last time one of my T was devoured a much larger mealworm than it. tongue.gif
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post Jun 2 2009, 11:47 PM

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kk, thx for info. ya, i m new. hehe. ask ar, hw to pack a T if wan post it?
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post Jun 3 2009, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(liewxin @ Jun 2 2009, 11:47 PM)
kk, thx for info. ya, i m new. hehe. ask ar, hw to pack a T if wan post it?
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google it, youtube.
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post Jun 3 2009, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Foxngn @ Jun 2 2009, 10:37 AM)
hmm.. i think i'll try to let it takes some live mealworm first, hopefully its will not freak out, as last time one of my T was devoured a much larger mealworm than it.  tongue.gif
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i've a G.Rosea,it is about 1inche..last night i gave to it half of superworm...i gave it at the evening around 6pm,then i saw my T still sucking the superworm at night..hehehe~ really slow,but it make my T full i guess.. hmm.gif ..This morning my T already finished ate the superworm.i guess sling really take time to diegest the superworm.and will it sampai abeh kalau lapar.. brows.gif
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post Jun 3 2009, 03:45 PM

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my Ts at 1inch i still feeding normal mealies wor
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post Jun 3 2009, 04:03 PM

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when i get my T...the size of my T just around 1cm but now a lil bit more than 1inch...from that T 1cm till now i still give him mealworm...any others type of food that i cn giv to my T....mayb if my T can speak he will tell me that he already bored wif mealworm...LOL

my T name Tomoi..hehe
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post Jun 3 2009, 04:06 PM

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i gt 1 matured male white knee, who gt matured female , pls pm me ,if u interested to breed ...
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post Jun 3 2009, 04:06 PM

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crickets lor
chopped lizards..
chopped fish,
chopped frogs..
chopped centidepe..
all those i thk all ok de
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post Jun 3 2009, 04:06 PM

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It seems that my Suntiger is prefer worms which still moving, as i see it progression of eating this morning, later gonna check how much it eat.

Man, i had search my mealworm until to the bottom to get the smallest mealworm within the oat substrate.
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QUOTE(bartbarb @ Jun 3 2009, 04:06 PM)
It seems that my Suntiger is prefer worms which still moving, as i see it progression of eating this morning, later gonna check how much it eat.

Man, i had search my mealworm until to the bottom to get the smallest mealworm within the oat substrate.
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same lah..
mealworms breeding for me too
so can have those damn small mealies to feed my slings
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post Jun 3 2009, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(geo @ Jun 3 2009, 04:08 PM)
same lah..
mealworms breeding for me too
so can have those damn small mealies to feed my slings
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lol.. actually i dunno how to breed mealworms, usually i will leave the beetle inside for a few weeks, then only i transfer it to another enclosure.

So its hard to find the egg inside those oat

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post Jun 3 2009, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(geo @ Jun 3 2009, 04:06 PM)
crickets lor
chopped lizards..
chopped fish,
chopped frogs..
chopped centidepe..
all those i thk all ok de
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fish? frog? cn meh?
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QUOTE(mr.hikano @ Jun 3 2009, 04:03 PM)
when i get my T...the size of my T just around 1cm but now a lil bit more than 1inch...from that T 1cm till now i still give him mealworm...any others type of food that i cn giv to my T....mayb if my T can speak he will tell me that he already bored wif mealworm...LOL

my T name Tomoi..hehe
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CRICKET .....

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