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SUSmonashguy
post May 12 2009, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(zacharyyeo @ May 12 2009, 08:51 PM)
i am trying to point out a point which is .

in this modern time ,
Dad job is not only putting food on the table , but also to help out on the house duties .
Mom job is not only in the house , but also if possible , help out on financial .

Why are there still ppl clingy on the concept man MUST 100% provide , woman must DO HOUSE CHORE amaze me .

i am not saying its wrong for a woman be a housewife if both party are happy with it .

Previous post you said ur dad came home and waited for dinner , wouldnt it be better if smtimes he take time off helping ur mom ?

i dono bout all ur family here , but this is how my family works . and i think its very strong as a family .

tryin to make a point that
A father duty is not merely just food on table , and a mother duty is not merely house chore .
times changes ady .
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crazy ahh?? My dad work so hard, come home so late how to cook dinner??? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif Of course now he's retired and I got maid at home. But for the sake of discussion you can talk about my family life, I am ok with that.
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post May 12 2009, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(barista @ May 12 2009, 09:32 PM)
Because man normally do not want a woman who is more capable than he is.  whistling.gif

You open poll and as the men lah.
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This is true for me also, but however if I really like the girl I don't mind and I am willing to throw away my ego, pride and dignity for a girl that I truly love.
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post May 12 2009, 10:10 PM

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Shows, movies and articles on caveman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveman

A flashgame on caveman.

http://www.miniclip.com/games/caveman/en/ rclxm9.gif icon_rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif sweat.gif

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post May 12 2009, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 10:16 PM)
Mr Liar Liar ...are you trying to lie your way out from your own trap?
You said woman sit and wait for food!!!

now read this plucked from wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter-gatherer

Pls eat your word and not lie your way out, if you're wrong admit your mistake and we can continue the debate about marriage, be a man once in your life would you?
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A very good article I found, very good, must read.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Hunter-gatherer

A quote from the article

"A vast amount of ethnographic and archaeological evidence demonstrates that the sexual division of labor in which men hunt and women gather wild fruits and vegetables is an extremely common phenomenon among hunter-gatherers worldwide"
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post May 12 2009, 10:25 PM

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Your quote

"2. I am simply complaining cause its gonna burn an entire years worth of savings on an event of only 1 day. I can see much better use for the cash."

A woman's life time ambition is to get married and start planning from the age of 5, the way you put it like it's a waste, You said I can see much better use for the cash, are you telling me your wedding on her is a waste?? Only money minded people talk like that, other occasion you talk like that I don't mind but TS, it's your wedding!! The way you answered you have the money but it's a waste, 12k is a waste and you agree it will cost way way more. You say it will all be spent in a day, Funeral also costs RM30k-40k in a few days, guess that is a waste too?? Registering for marriage also in a day but lifetime commitment, but signing it is just in a day. So what if it's in a day only??


Your quote
"However, my dad has voiced strong objection to it and he will go so far as to say he will not give his blessing if we don't give the wedding its dues. I know some of you will say "forget bout your dad, its your life" well sorry to say I'm not a heartless ******* who will forget about the man who raised me, fed me and paid my way through life."

I agree with your dad, should have proper wedding!! Once in a life time event!!

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post May 12 2009, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(tykenny @ May 12 2009, 10:34 PM)
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  support ~~ TS must be young and ...... emm .. doh.gif  doh.gif
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If that person is my daughter he marrying, I terus reject the guy, I tell him, you can keep the money to yourself and I have back my daughter, too expensive, all lost in a day, hope that RM12k will last you a long long time, since it's too expensive don't bother. My daughter can marry someone else who will love and care for her.
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QUOTE(tykenny @ May 12 2009, 10:47 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

ya lo ~ i wonder how SAD the parent of his "wife" ..... must be very sad. they already propose 3k saja, yet still got ppl think they money minded.
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Never mind lah, I also speechless, "all spent in a day" nothing more to say, if I have a savings of 4-5 million, I will happily give 2 million dollars as dowry. Buy a house next to her parents house so she can see her parents everyday, remove the house partition so two house combine one. To me marrying a person is marrying her parents also, after all if don't have her parents, how to have her?? Her parents very generous ask 3k only, that is so giving face. If I marry a girl, I want to make her parents happy and take care of her parents also, if their parents sick I will take care of her parents also.
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post May 12 2009, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(SPS @ May 12 2009, 11:06 PM)
Wesley Niewoehner, an anthropologist at California State University in San Bernardino, has studied Neandertal hand mechanics.

"I've always been impressed by the observation that female Neandertal hand bones indicate that their hands were just as powerful as those of male Neandertals," he said.

"This indicates to me that female Neandertals were doing things with their hands that required significant physical force."

"Whether this fact means that female Neandertals were performing the same tasks as their male counterparts, or they were simply performing different tasks that required the same amount of force, is up for debate," he said.

Now where does that say Neanderthal women put "equal food" on the table?  I can treat it as a possibility but it is by no means a certainty as the bolded statement above indicates that the antropologist noted so.  One possibility in another article that I have read (but not available online I'm afraid) postulated that the women could have been primarily tool-makers. 

Note there was little GATHERING of pink and red fruits.

Obviously, this is all academic as even the anthropologists themselves are making intelligent guesses at times but let's not forget this has NO bearing on current marriage related behaviors of men and women in modern society.

Do you DARE to answer my question?


Added on May 12, 2009, 11:09 pm
Obviously I read and cpmprehend English a LOT better than you.

Re-read the National Geographic article and tell me where does it state Neanderthal women put an EQUAL amount of food on the table.

Be an honest woman and prove your statement!  The only red-faced one here is you.
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Personally I am already lost, don't know what both of you are arguing about already. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

TS: you contradicted yourself with your second post

"I argued with her about this already and no solution in sight..."

second post, you said she don't mind having a simple wedding reception

Your second post quote

"so we cannot just have simple weddings like in the western countries. Me and my fiancee want a simple wedding. "

if your wife don't mind "simple" wedding why is she arguing with you over this??

and you said it's a waste coz all gone in a day, obviously it's you can pay but you think it's waste. rclxub.gif

You said "1. I love this woman and really want to make her my wife. I just didn't expect it to cost so much."

and later you said it may cost more, how much cheaper can it be??

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post May 12 2009, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(bonedragon @ May 12 2009, 11:25 PM)
hahahaah lol call me jakun or whatever, but why does dowry still exist?
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The parent so hard to raise the girl, shouldn't the guy at least pay something back in gratitude?? Is it too much to ask??
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post May 12 2009, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(silverwave @ May 12 2009, 11:22 PM)
I a little lost too but the sources that SPS have attained are notable sources.

@TS, better think wisely before you make a decision. It's better to take some times and work out the problems before committing to a marriage.  smile.gif
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Yeah lor, they argue like nearly two pages or maybe a little more and I am very confused already.

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