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post Dec 5 2009, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(evilpuppy @ Dec 5 2009, 08:11 PM)
@DrWho,
The Real Captain still on board.
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Sorry I meant "Jump ship Captain" not HD Captain tongue.gif

Maybe a better title is "Multi ships Captain" sweat.gif

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post Dec 6 2009, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Dec 6 2009, 09:37 AM)
Guys, after using a while HD, I got a few questions want to ask..
1. Why the sms is something like conversation? how can i change it? or it is like this in WM?

2. For the ROM Upgrade, is it will delete all programs and data in my HD? reference link : http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportDownload.asp...cat=2&dl_id=490

3. How can i set my HD don't use 3G?
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1. You have to disable Threaded SMS. Use one of the Free Tweak program, like Advanced Configuration or HD Tweak, to do it.
2. Everything will be deleted. Use a Backup program to backup your data including programs before flashing.
3. Settings>Communications>Disable 3G
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post Dec 6 2009, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(evilpuppy @ Dec 6 2009, 12:51 PM)
sms sent, please let me know whenver you have receive it or not?? HD2 sms issue, you might not getting my text. please check. tq
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Such problem still exist with the King of the Hill! doh.gif
I hope I won't have this SMS issue when I get my HD2 next week.
Some of Dutty HD ROMs had the same SMS problem. They narrowed it to unicode problem when restoring PIM. Dutty recommended to restore contacts via active sync.
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post Dec 15 2009, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Dec 14 2009, 11:47 PM)
Ok..by the way, upgrade radio will void the warranty? any disadvantage?  hmm.gif
And is it necessary to flash ROM if we flash radio? if only flash radio, won't have any problem right?  hmm.gif
Why we need to flash cooked ROM?  rclxub.gif
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You can flash only the Radio without flashing the ROM
Cooked ROM are usually faster than shipped ROM and also remove some bugs. Some have better UI.
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post Dec 15 2009, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Dec 15 2009, 08:32 PM)
Oh..ok..
Ic..but it will void the warranty..the guy from pda shop advice me don't flash ROM because my phone still under warranty and still new  nod.gif

anyway, any keyboard input recommend? I like the default keyboard, but it's too small..Full QWERTY got some bug with it.. doh.gif
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As what Superman7 said "Flash Radio or ROM will void warranty". If you flashed radio or cook ROM, you can always flash it back to the stock version if you want to claim warranty. Cook ROM is always better than stock ROM. Stick to WM6.1 ROM.

TouchPal is a good Soft Input Panel but it is a $$ware.
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post Dec 16 2009, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Dec 16 2009, 10:15 AM)
We flash cooked rom because we like to "play" with our phones and maximise its potential. Microsoft firmware is "safe" and developed for the masses to ensure no major complaints that it is unuseable or hanging issues.

It is analogous to why people esp guys spend Rm 20000 - RM 50000 just to upgrade their car sound system or similar amount to modified their car's engine/transmission or bodykit. Sometimes these costs is similar to car value or even exceed the car's value. For example I have a very old Cefiro ( bought it new and use it 19 years  )  - one  guy bought it from me and spend 3 times the car value to modify it just for drifting purposes. A more common comparison is most people will spend a fortune renovating their houses whose costs usually is 50 % to 100 % the house value
In all these cases why do people do it ?? :  to be different ? to have a better enjoyment of their asset ? to maximise the potential and value of their asset ? or too much money dunno where to spend on ?

Off digressing, we flash cooked roms because we want to maximise and "push" our units to perform beyond what Microsoft intended;. Some of the advantages of cooked roms are:

1. Better memory utilization : MS roms memory built up very fast and if you browse a lot and multitasking,  you find out of memory issues fast.  Cooked roms nowadays by default increased memory by 10-20 % ( depending on which cook )

2. MS roms builtin a lot of stuffs which majority don't used; so in most cooked roms these are removed as you cannot uninstalled it in the original unit

3. Some cooks offered CLEAN or LEAN rom which left a basic functioning unit  ( my favourite) : I then install in what I like and I save at least up to 20MB of storage memory from MS rom

4. Some cooks build into their roms a wide range of useful utilities for those who are too "lazy" to find/research/or install such utilities

5. Some guys change their roms because they preferred the new icons setup and icons layout ( these if you put in some effort you can easily do yourself ). For example I like CellPro lite roms but I hate his color scheme /icons - so after flashing I change all the icons/folders/layout according to my own taste. I like his rom because it is really lean compared to others and offer fantastic low memory utilizations

6. Microsoft is continually upgrading their builds and all these cooks capitalize on it and built it in theoir roms ; for example the HD the manila build has progresed to 21885 and at WM 6.5.3 while the original HD firmware till now has remain unchange.

Now you can run WM6.5 ( so many versions available, at last count at least 15 )  on the HD.

You can also now run Manila 2.5 with some bugs on the HD ( which was developed for the HD2 ) or run another version of WM6.5 ( build 280@@@ onwards ) where is more finger friendly and obvious start menu relocated to bottom. The variety of cooked roms is fascinating

So guys who do not like to see the same "dashboard when driving" every day change their "dashboard" often . In our case of roms,  this do not incurred any cost just time to install/test/evaluate - so much so if you look thro the XDA forums you find many regulars ( including me) who just cannot stay long with just the same rom and continually changing to find their "ultimate solution "  - we are what every one calls "Rom freaks or rom addicts"
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Wow! You took such effort and time to clarify this issue. Great work.

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post Dec 16 2009, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Dec 16 2009, 01:04 PM)
TIME is what a retiree old man like me have loh !
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post Dec 16 2009, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Dec 16 2009, 08:41 PM)
So as long as the cooked ROM is for Touch HD, there is impossible got problem??
Wow..you writing essay? haha..anyway, thanks for your long explanation..really appreciate.. thumbup.gif

1 question..what is the difference between USPL and HSPL? which 1 able to flash back original ROM? which 1 more safety? rclxub.gif
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It is better for you to use a USPL. It is easier to use and less problem.
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post Dec 16 2009, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Dec 16 2009, 09:56 PM)
Then after that how can I restore back to original ROM?  hmm.gif
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Just repeat what you have done but with the Stock ROM. Stock ROM is available here.
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post Dec 19 2009, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(ejuddx @ Dec 18 2009, 10:58 AM)
hi guys,

does anyone of you having a problem with no audio while using skyfire 1.5 when playing video from youtube? ive notice when i browse using maxis data connection, then there is no sound. but when i use streamyx via wifi, then i can get the sound.

Weird huh?  hmm.gif
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The different streaming speed between the two may be the cause of the problem. Maxis data is much slower than the wifi.
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post Dec 21 2009, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Dec 21 2009, 05:52 PM)
Hello Bro/sis...  Pls welcome me a very new user of Touch HD... I am very new even to WinMo..  at the moment.. donno how to install anything yet.. laugh.gif

Would like to know which ROM is the best at the moment.. and Which Touch Flo is best... 

currently my phone in WinMo6.1 and touchflo3D 1.3 rclxub.gif
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Welcome to the thread. You certainly have a lot to read from this and the XDA thread. biggrin.gif
Dutty 3.9 is good, stable and bug free but it is WM6.1 which I prefer for my HD.
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post Jan 4 2010, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Jan 4 2010, 11:13 AM)
I flashed my HD today..but after flash, the screen got something wrong..after I press power button to turn off screen and I turn it on back, it ok..I flashed EnergyROM.. rclxub.gif
Link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562952

Any other recommended cooked ROM? I need a fast, simple, and smooth ROM..I don't need a lot programs preloaded.. smile.gif

Flash ROM must update SPL first?  rclxub.gif
How to flash back stock SPL if I flash to 1.56?  doh.gif
I can't find a thread about it in XDA  rclxub.gif
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Use uSPL instead of Hard SPL, it is easier to use.
Dutty 3.9 WM6.1 ROM is fast and hassle free.
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QUOTE(Lineage @ Jan 4 2010, 12:19 PM)
I use USPL, and my stock SPL is 1.14..but I flash 1.56 based WM 6.5 ROM..so do I need to flash 1.56 SPL in order to flash 1.56 based ROM?  hmm.gif
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Yes, you need to flash 1.56 SPL or just use uSPL before you flash ROM.
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QUOTE(posthumous @ Jan 4 2010, 02:59 PM)
Is there really a SPL 1.56?  I thought the latest SPL is 1.54. I do know of HardSPL 1.56.OliNex

Could you kindly direct me to SPL 1.56 please?
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oopps! blush.gif You are right. I stand corrected, it is SPL 1.54.
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You may find the following Sprite Backup part instruction manual useful. It is possible, at time, to restore the complete settings when a new ROM is flashed by using the Upgrade Option.



Upgrade Options
Sprite Backup uses different restore modes depending on the type of operation performed, e.g.
change in device or Operating System. This section of the guide helps you to set Upgrade Mode
restore options and explains when to use these options.
To set Upgrade Mode restore options follow the instructions below:
1. From the Sprite Backup main screen, select 'Options'.
Sprite Backup Main Screen
2. From the 'Options' screen, select 'Restore'.
Sprite Backup Options
Chapter 3 Options 37
3. From the 'Restore Options' screen, select 'Upgrade'.
Restore Options
4. In the Upgrade Mode screen Enable/Disable the settings you require.
Upgrade Mode Options
38 Sprite Backup Version 6 User's Guide
Level 1: Use this option to perform restore operations between the same devices with different
ROM revisions. For example: restoring from a KJAM ROM 2.16.9 to a KJAM AKU2 ROM version.
Level 2: Use this option when you wish to restore across devices and ROM versions. For example:
When restoring a backup file created on a WM2005 KJAM device onto a WM 2005 JAZJAR device.
Level 3: If your device does not boot after performing a ‘ROM Upgrade’ or ‘Device Upgrade’
restore use the ‘Safe Upgrade’ operation.
Choosing 'Prompt on upgrade' will cause Sprite Backup to prompt you every time that a restore
operation is performed between different ROM versions or devices. When the upgrade mode
prompt appears you will need to select the type of upgrade that you wish to apply to the restore
operation.
The 'Help' menu item displays this Help file.
1. Press 'OK' to save the settings or 'Cancel' to exit without saving.
Important Notes:
Please be aware that due to constant development and changes to the Windows Mobile platform
‘Upgrade Mode’ may not restore your device to a desired state. Depending on the type of
'Upgrade Mode' operation Sprite Backup will display a different warning message. If you are
restoring across devices with different versions of the operating system, you may be warned that
databases will not restore properly and you will be given the choice of restoring with or without
databases. If you choose to restore databases and the device is not stable after the restore,
please perform a hard reset and try again. This time do NOT include databases or select 'Level 3'
from the Merge Levels List.

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Jan 5 2010, 10:14 AM)
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SPB Backup
Control your data restoration!

    * Can be restored after ROM upgrade (ROM upgrade mode)

ROM upgrade mode means same ROM but different version? So it cannot do restore when totally change new ROM?  hmm.gif
It depends. Sometime you can restore with different ROM, sometime you can't even restore with same series ROM. You just need to try.
Ok, since you all strongly suggest Sprite Backup, I will use that 1 in the future..
Btw, can it restore program as well? how about setting?  biggrin.gif
You can restore EVERYTHING. It takes me only less than 10 mins to restore everything after I flashed a ROM.
My program all installed in memory card, so do i need to install back after flash cooked ROM?  shocking.gif
There is no need to reinstall any program if you can successfully restore your backup. Everything will be intact eg settings, programs etc
I'm able to run those programs in my memory card..but how can I create shortcut so in the future I can run the program without go to the directory?
At your SD card>Program Files>copy the lnk or exe file and paste it at \Windows\Start Menu. Some exe files are very big, eg Garmin. lnk is preferable if you can find them if not your can create them if you know the path.
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QUOTE(Lineage @ Jan 5 2010, 12:23 PM)
Ok..then how can I create .ink if I got .exe file?  hmm.gif
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One of the followings. ActiveSync Explorer is the easiest. biggrin.gif

* Use ActiveSync Explorer (obviously only works with a desktop PC)
* Use a better File Explorer like Resco File Explorer (http://www.resco-net.com)
* Use Scott's NewShortcut utility(http://www.scottandmichelle.net/scott
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QUOTE(Lineage @ Jan 5 2010, 10:43 PM)
Thanks..After 12 hours using this Energy ROM, or WM 6.5..I feel the Messaging is not as good as previous 1..it is threaded SMS and I can't change anything  doh.gif
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You can use HD Tweak or Advanced Configuration to change the Threaded SMS to Classic SMS. Both are freewares
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QUOTE(stormrage @ Jan 6 2010, 09:21 PM)
Thanks Lineage,

I got this message "Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device.".

I have managed to put back a shipped ROM using MyMobiler and some guessing. I need to confirm the version is correct
ROM : 1.14.495.3 (22273) WWE
ROM Date : 10/24/08
Radio Version: 1.09.25.14
Protocol : 52.49a.25.26U.

Thanks in advance...
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You don't have to flash your device back to the original ROM. As long as you have the official ROM SIS would have to honour the warranty, ie you have updated your device with their official ROM from their site.

Check your SPL and make sure it is the original SPL or else they will know that you have flashed brows.gif
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post Jan 7 2010, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Jan 6 2010, 11:11 PM)
DrWho, what ROM you using?  hmm.gif
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My HD is in storage now. I am currently using HD2.
I have flashed many of Dutty WM6.1 ROMs and stopped at/reverted back to v3.7. I have tried Dutty WM6.5 ROM but immediately flashed back to WM6.1. For HD, I prefer WM6.1 ROM because it is stable and almost bug free but not WM6.5.

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