ic... tat means it's just $$$ matter. tq.

they oledi put online brochure of zarra... but there are lots and lots of mistakes & inconsistencies within the brochure itself
some specs are even cut-&-paste of serena

wat a surprise... this new lady boss aiya

This post has been edited by trojant: Aug 1 2009, 11:47 PM

probably she has caused her team kena scolded "kau kau" by customer... so the down line also let her kena "kau kau"

probably the later they launch the better for those confirmed early birds... the later time they launch the higher the price they are selling
did u guys get something black and white that they must honour 570k selling price?? can they change mind last minute?

curious to know, did they cash-out the cheque paid for the early birds booking?

r they pulling ur legs?? take back cheque??... still honour 570k price??

570k for the last piece of terrace sounds illogical low... unless they want to do put it as part of their CSR in company report

This post has been edited by trojant: Aug 4 2009, 10:32 AM

in bk, u got good alert to awaken u from boredom 5 times a day...

tohsan, when buying completed house from developer, r they using standard S&P (as like under construction)?
24 month warranty still applicable?

new rules is 18 or 24 months? forgot oledi

ic... probably it's like sub-sale.

if can do something at lower cost, why should they use higher cost material... profit mah
half million is nothing nowadays...

for kiasu one, they might want to mark that area as their kebun for sayur-sayuran.. i saw some in bpj even build fencing around their kebun to mark as "their territory"

Most loan starts installment after full disbursement.. 100% fully paid.
If you look at the S&P, at 80% you got all the road, drains etc ready... the final 20% is when developer handover VP.
Based on ioi track record, upon the completion up to 80%, the house actually ready for VP... so they will bill the last 20% together.

Hence, I believe that's the reason why ur banker said the ["vacant state" by IOI means = 80% of $ disbursement].

in case there is something missing between the 80% stage and VP, only after the last 20% paid then you start installment.

This post has been edited by trojant: Aug 7 2009, 02:50 PM

a quick question to serena buyer: ioi provides how many air-cond points for the house?

serena early birds have the same fate... no MOT, no 0% interest during construction.
Although the "depreciation" value is not that much of vistaria, but you can see the lady boss is willing to do anything to increase the sales.
With zarra got so many "watery" response... they will just "chop" the buyer...

This post has been edited by trojant: Aug 11 2009, 09:56 AM

imo, bpp is surrounded by too many low and medium income family... also a lot of kiamsiap family too (not even want to join & pay for guarded community).
when no people willing to lepak and spend, tat's all for the township... just see ioi mall new extension, the high-end shops just "pak wu ying".

no doubt puchong got many medium to medium-high income people... the point is, are they willing to spend?
how much is willing to spend, for example, a cup of san frans, coffee bean in puchong??
i guess most forummer here hv never ever bought a cup of san frans coffee when shopping at ioi new wing.

curve area also got tesco... is tat's the reason so many people flocking to mutiara dmsr?

This post has been edited by trojant: Aug 12 2009, 10:20 AM

i said a lot of rich people in puchong ... just tat most of them are kiamsiap.
i m sure most people in this forum afford to pay for a cup of san frans coffee... just not willing to spend, true??

got spending power and willingness to spend might not be perfectly correlated

This post has been edited by trojant: Aug 12 2009, 10:57 AM

it's not rich or poor, it's willingness to spend or not...
dim sum is food... daily necessiity... with 100+ at least 4-5 stomach got full, on the other hand spending above-average priced coffee is lifestyle...
u still can opt for a 1.50 nescafe tarik at mamak vs 10+ brew.

taking example of the family with dim sum... do you think they are willing to spend 100+ for a sip coffee for the whole family? probably yes but I guess very likely no.

if you want a vibrant township... puchong needs market that willing to spend for lifestyle.... like in 1u & curve area.
just like you willing to spend on IKEA things, u could get the similar things from jusco or parkson, dun u?....
but you willing to spend for better modern design... again lifestyle....

[quote=charlesPuchong,Aug 13 2009, 11:46 AM]
[quote=trojant,Aug 13 2009, 10:30 AM]
it's not rich or poor, it's willingness to spend or not...
dim sum is food... daily necessiity... with 100+ at least 4-5 stomach got full, on the other hand spending above-average priced coffee is lifestyle...
u still can opt for a 1.50 nescafe tarik at mamak vs 10+ brew.

taking example of the family with dim sum... do you think they are willing to spend 100+ for a sip coffee for the whole family? probably yes but I guess very likely no.

if you want a vibrant township... puchong needs market that willing to spend for lifestyle.... like in 1u & curve area.
just like you willing to spend on IKEA things, u could get the similar things from jusco or parkson, dun u?....
but you willing to spend for better modern design... again lifestyle....

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Actually, the people who spent at 1u , the curve , ikea are not 100% the people who stay there, they are a lot of out comer likes us go that area for apointment /leisure . So i am not total agreed with that area people have more spending power
If puchong have that kind of enviroment (hopefully) sure we can attract more outsider come and spent in Puchong, and are we going to concluded at that time, people at puchong at not kiam siap???

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not just spending power... spending power + WILLINGNESS TO SPEND