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post May 5 2009, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ May 5 2009, 02:20 PM)
haha ... Survivors laugh.gif
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yup, ASEAN edition... tongue.gif

QUOTE(REZ @ May 5 2009, 02:21 PM)
Guys, i'm planning upgrade from x2 5000 non be to x2 7750be, is it worth the upgrade? how much difference can i expect? just increase 0.1ghz in clock & additional 2mb on L3 cache.
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no, save d moolah for deneb instead... smile.gif
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post May 5 2009, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(carbonfibre @ May 5 2009, 02:58 PM)
sigh people im having issues pushing my 7850BE over 3.3Ghz anything above tht i will not be able to boot up or it will restart on its on..

anyways should i tweak my bios or use the asus software to overclock.. not too sure.. beacuse eveything in the bios is so complicated not used to all the terms yet -.- but all i know how to change is the FSB and the multiplier..
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avoid super high multi like 16.5 & above, try to use 16 or below w/ slight htt oc, if ya chip is those which can get pass 3.3GHz w/o insane voltage then u are gud to go. i did manage to hit 3.3Ghz but d voltage was too high, makin d oc pointless since it's not suitable for 24/7. smile.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 5 2009, 03:25 PM)
y u always recomend to upgrade after the gathering? any reason?
pnat da pk nape...tp still dont get d answer
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so that ppl who attend will get poisoned by a$u$ effect... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(carbonfibre @ May 5 2009, 03:28 PM)
hey everybody i just pushed my comp further to 3.2Ghz XD want some advice should i use Asus OC software or OC myself in the bios? sifu give some advice notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=560287

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software oc for tweakin, bios oc for 24/7. my 2 cents... wink.gif

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QUOTE(carbonfibre @ May 5 2009, 03:35 PM)
what is HTT oc? smile.gif im very new so hope u dont mind explaining ; D ya i never up my voltage one.. so i guess its easy to OC? which one to increase now.. : D anyways totally agree with u, ASUS ROCKS @@ ! used to use a low end dfi back in the socket 754 series.. couldnt squeeze the potential now use ASUS its like O.O ASUS ROCKS XD lol i dont mean DFI sucks ya people !

http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv227/e...sw/untitled.jpg
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w/ that kinda voltage is it prime stable?

yeah a$u$ rocks... price wise... ermm... no comment. a$u$ 780g + sb700 board almost cost as much as a biostar 790gx + sb750 accordin to prices list in newegg. laugh.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 5 2009, 03:38 PM)
ha..ni yg susah..
huhuhuh
a$u$ and D ya?
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a$u$ ftw... whistling.gif

QUOTE(carbonfibre @ May 5 2009, 03:39 PM)
should i reduce the multiplier and raise the FSB? because if i use 16x and i increase my fsb to around 220 fail to boot -.-
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no need to use too low multi, 13 ~ 16 should be just fine. & one more thing, u mite need acc for pushin ya chip further. nod.gif

@ sir antonio,

u forgot to lower down d vdimm ah? isn't it too high for that kinda freq @ that kinda timin? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(fuzore @ May 5 2009, 03:51 PM)
u need to play with both if u wanna find the sweet spot for proc... but do take note that when u raise the htt ur ram speed will go up too...
for example htt @250 ur ram speed @ 1:2 will be 1000mhz... but u can set it manually and drop it to 667 or 800mhz...


Added on May 5, 2009, 3:53 pm

ha..ha..ha... i love reading this....  wub.gif
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a$u$ master has spoken... notworthy.gif

yeah, a$u$ rocks, a$u$ ftw... i'm a new a$u$ fanboy now bro... wub.gif

btw, ftw means for the wealthy ones only... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(fuzore @ May 5 2009, 04:02 PM)
heh... ya la tu... like anyone will belive that false statement.... yawn.gif
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no sarcasm meant bro, they're true words from d bottom of my heart. wink.gif

like is one thing, can afford or not is another thing... smile.gif

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QUOTE(carbonfibre @ May 5 2009, 04:27 PM)
haha will try doing that later.. ya the computer is prime stable at stock voltage o.O if i increase FSB and multiplier does tht mean i need to increase volt to be stable? volt on the proc only ryte..
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3.28GHz prime stable w/ 1.25v only... u got a gem there mate... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(carbonfibre @ May 5 2009, 04:37 PM)
hey bros any idea how much is the 4770 ah? : D i currently not running any gc -.- using onboard LOL..
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with onboard some more... w/o onboard u'll see d proc fly... drool.gif

should be around RM350 i think. most powerful 128-bit card (of those i know) to date... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ May 5 2009, 09:31 PM)
After 6 hours.....another 18 to go  sweat.gif

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Damn my room is warm.... cry.gif

BTW

whats TMPIN3....according to HW Monitor it is CPU temp, but according to Overdrive my CPU Core 1/2 is 51c only....so what is this TMPIN3?? And it is hot!!!! 68c shocking.gif
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is that d max bro? Deneb below 3.5GHz is not considered a deneb... tongue.gif

joke aside, is there any special bios for x3 720BE for ya board? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ May 6 2009, 09:44 AM)
Bro u meant this comment for me or antonio bro?? Why u quote his line if it's me :/D

Miahahaha, it's still not the max ler bro, still godek2 looking for the sweet spot, goin up bit by bit..  :/sweat:
Only targeting up to 3.7ghz, so far so good, last time using my older ST56F i can't even get it OCCT stable at 3.2ghz at the same volt.. :/x
Haven't found any special bios for unlocking the 4th core yet, but i did able to download MSI new official bios.. Right now still using ver1.6, new ver is 1.7..
By the way when u oc ur old 720BE did u up d volt for the NB?? I kept getting memory purge when i oc over 3.4ghz..  :/hmm:
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was referrin to u bro. nod.gif

3.5GHz should be a breeze for 720BE if no unlockin involved. start from there & keep whackin it w/ volts until u hit d wall. after that, then only bring down d volt w/ more burn in. brows.gif

forget bout offcial bios if u want to unlock d 4th core, amd ledi warned all d manufacturer not to include d special feature in their official bios, however, beta bios are allowed. wink.gif

as far as i remember, i didn't touch any vhtt & vnb when i clock d x3, addin vimc is more important, that was on 790fx board ofcourse. smile.gif

no comment for 790gx board as i didn't have enuf time w/ d 790gx3, u can fly me d chip so that i can test for u, since now i got a "secret" 790gx board... tongue.gif

QUOTE(Phantom_KiD @ May 6 2009, 10:20 AM)
Morning AMD Sapiens !!! laugh.gif

Abang oltromen please submit your result at Phenom II data base... brows.gif

Today will get my J&W IINM...ekekeke...cant wait to test that mobo... wub.gif

mana boleh kasi sis ah_khoo playing with 790GX lonely
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ur sweat sis verdict... auoowww... wub.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ May 6 2009, 11:38 AM)
Adoiiii mak, been scourging the MSI Forum for any beta bios for my DKA790GX but none can be find doh.gif
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resistanD is FutIle, embrace it... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 6 2009, 12:08 PM)
woah..dfi cheap ya?
then a$u$ will be cheaper..
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cant find any 2nd hand...is msik9a2 cf ok? anyone using it now...huhuhuh
mebbe buy ta790gx 128...within my budget...
"mintak mak, duet sedikit,~~saya mahu beli kerna mobo rosak~~ cool.gif  cool.gif "
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definitely not that board, d only gud sb600 board produced by msi was k9a plat, but i'm sure it won't come cheap since it was a premium board. biostar will still be ya best bet, try to source for 2nd if new one is outta budget. smile.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ May 6 2009, 04:27 PM)
Overclocking really is time consuming  yawn.gif

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CPU Multi: 12x
HTT : 250HTT
DRAM : 500Mhz
Timings: 5-5-5-17
HT Link: X5
NB Freq: X5

Voltages
CPU:1.375v
RAM: 2.15v
NB:1.3v
HT:1.3v
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sir, is that a pair of value ram? they are runnin on what kinda chippies? smile.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ May 6 2009, 04:56 PM)
Dunno what chip...can't open the heatspreaders ...  sweat.gif
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pardon me for my bad memory, i think i've asked u b4. doh.gif

any hope to bring down d voltage a 'lil? 2.1v for a 1000MHz @ 5-5-5-x seems a 'lil high for me. smile.gif

QUOTE(verdict @ May 6 2009, 05:10 PM)
790GX Extreme is with me at this moment...

This mobo using the AMI bios like ASUS and Biostar IINM....

5 phase + 1 phase NB digital PWM...the heat pipe design are much more better that D it self..haishh... doh.gif

Contra abut this mobo is it only running 1X 16x PCI-E, 2X 8x PCI-E...

CF will go like this :

- 2 way - 16x 8x
- 3 Way - 8x 8x 8x
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meh... ami bios sucks... whistling.gif

chipset coolin wise no comment, usually stock coolin sucks no matter value or premium board. even d ut 790fx (which come with tr transpiper) not really performin well. if ur comparin load temp of 790fx vs 790gx, they are diff case as fx (65nm) is generally hotter than gx (55nm). wink.gif

d bandwidth of pci-e ports are awesome thou (if all ports are runnin @ pci-e 2.0), 2 way cf @ 16x & 8x, way better than standard 790gx boards which cf @ 8x each. drool.gif

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QUOTE(antonio @ May 6 2009, 10:34 PM)
I dunno why when I use 2.0v, system wont boot or Windows fails to load.... sad.gif

My ram is here:--->http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ddr2-800_6.html#sect0

Until now I still confused on what is TMPIN3... doh.gif  icon_question.gif

And while playing games juz now...sudden got like Police/Ambulans siren....its the HW Monitor beeping actually...tyring to warn me about the CPU reaching 93c!! shocking.gif

sad.gif  sweat.gif  doh.gif  rclxub.gif  shocking.gif
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how bout usin cpuid hwmonitor instead sir? either software issue or spoilt dts for me... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ May 7 2009, 12:12 AM)
I am using the latest CPUID HWMonitor which I just downloaded from their website...

Spoilt DTS??? WHats dat.... blink.gif
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TMPIN0 would be ya chip temp judgin by my 790gx3 ss. smile.gif

u have any friend runnin am2+ system? if so mite need to test ya chip on their board, if still d same then i can safely say it's d digital thermal sensor that causin d problem. i mite be wrong thou... blush.gif
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QUOTE(verdict @ May 7 2009, 01:58 AM)
Haishh...im noob at this AMI bios flashing... sweat.gif

Darn im quit scared to flash it cause i dont know how it will work... wub.gif

Does any one here Pro enough to help me do the bios flashing as i noob at AMI bios... sweat.gif  sweat.gif

But the 790Gx Junior was awesome...lucky sis ah_khoo sudah main,if not sure i grab that mobo...ha ha ha... whistling.gif
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amiflash will do d job, all d instructions are provided in j&w support session. they even include d guide in a pdf file, very well documented. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(fuzore @ May 7 2009, 08:01 AM)
as i guess AUX temp.... bro just leave it alone like mine before it doesn't effect anything trust me.... and as for ur 93c temp that would be something wrong a bit with bios i guess... did u load the default settings before and after flashing the new bios....
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ami bios... tongue.gif

any update for ya chip/ram oc bro? drool.gif
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QUOTE(dblooi @ May 7 2009, 10:17 AM)
new am3 user reporting in  tongue.gif

My setup  wub.gif
CPU: AMD P2 955BE ( Thanks bro verdict  wub.gif ), cooled by Coolermaster Aquagate Max
RAM: Kingston HyperX 1800 Tri Channel kit ( use 2 sticks only)
Mobo: MSI 790FX GD70
GC: Sapphire HD4830 X2 CrossFire
Hardisk: Patriot WARP V2 Solid state Disk 32GB X2 RAID 0
PSU: Gigabyte ODIN Pro 800W
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First attempt, All stock settings, single card
3dMark06 scores 11881 3dmarks.
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later on, slot in another card and CF enabled. All default settings
3dmark06 scores 17188 3dmarks.
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The score seems a bit too low, start oc the cpu
At stock vcore, oc to 3.7GHz, memory ratio set to 1:4. Memory sub timings TRC set to 26.The rest remains default.
3dmark06 scores 18958 3dmarks. Looks better
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Now vcore pump to 1.4v, clockspeed drag to 3.8GHz, GPU clock oc to 650MHz.
3dmark06 scores 19703 3dmarks. Close to 20k barrier now.
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Used the onboard oc knot to top up 3 HTT, GPU oc to 670MHz. Overriding 20k barrier  tongue.gif
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1.4v@ 3.9GHz is not stable enough to pass 3dmark06.
Hence i only have super pi 1M result here  sad.gif
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I know, some are waiting for 4GHz result, here you go laugh.gif
4GHz@ 1.41v Super Pi 1M completed.
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Will play with DICE or LN2 overclocking tomorrow if everything goes smoothly
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very nice bench there bro, bout d 4.0GHz barrier, perhaps lower multi can help? denebs for sure is fun to play with eh? laugh.gif

QUOTE(dblooi @ May 7 2009, 10:29 AM)
Complain a bit here,
the SB750 has poor RAID 0 performance  :/cry:
2x SSD RAID 0 only produce reading speed at 100MB/s (No ss)  :/stars:

and WTH design such stupid software?
You need to enter User name & Password in order to use AMD RAIDXPERT  :/stars:  :/x
AMD should send the developer to hell  :/furious:
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i lost my faith in d raid 0 performance ever since d sb600 days, sb750 aint offerin much improvement, thou oc wise it is more helpful, w d acc it makes attempts in oc easier. smile.gif

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QUOTE(dblooi @ May 7 2009, 10:36 AM)
I don't see any difference, and did i mention 4GHz is a barrier?  tongue.gif
Just that it's getting late so i turn off the pc and go to sleep.
Will try again tonight. icon_rolleyes.gif
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what i meant was d stability issue w/ high multi such as 20x bro. i found that it's quite hard to go for d extra miles when high multi is in use. smile.gif

waitin for more results from u then... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(verdict @ May 7 2009, 10:44 AM)
Ha Ha Ha...yeahh...1.4+Vcore for the 4G result...lurve it... wub.gif
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d powa of ddr3 mem controller i guess... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(fuzore @ May 7 2009, 10:46 AM)
i agree with this statement 100%....  thumbup.gif
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ape tunggu2... hoot a ddr3 board now bro... brows.gif

throw ya a$u$ board to me cheap2... tongue.gif

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