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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V17, The secret is yet to be unleashed...

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post Jun 2 2009, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Jun 2 2009, 02:52 PM)
No need inside; juz make the purchase counter around the lobby area....AMD sure happy wan...

but, up till now when u jalan2 around LYP, the 'AMD Panas' mentality still floats around, coming from the mouth of both sellers and customers sad.gif
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deneb, ermm... at least heka will change d way they feel... heka @ tri-cores is realy x 3 cool... thumbup.gif

abg otromen can prove that... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jun 2 2009, 02:57 PM)
Aiseymen, naik jugak my name sweat.gif
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ur d only active user of x3 720be mah, d rest dah lesap... sweat.gif

some more ur d 2nd top "contributor" in this thread, so ppl will believe u... tongue.gif

QUOTE(antonio @ Jun 2 2009, 02:58 PM)
precisely... rclxms.gif
No lar...The are talking about AMD Socket A  doh.gif

Benda aledi khazanah wooo, not only outdated... whistling.gif
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selective memory perhaps? they've forgotten d "press hot" & d latest nehalem of intel... rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 2 2009, 03:38 PM)
seriously OCing now is not fun like last time..
now even not OC can do decent job edy & too easy to tweak..
only can tell from benchmarking..

donno later what for if more n more cores to come..
if still stick as same condition right now..
lame gaming n play solitaire..

we need virtua-solitaire ler..
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as long as futuremark is in business, d market will always demand for more powerful chip... smile.gif

d figures fever started by intel (i supposed) when they offered superb oc mileage on p4 which inferior to a64 w lower clock. but now, it's d other way round, amd need to play catch up usin high clock in order to match d mighty i7 or even c2d/q. doh.gif

i wud say feck those synthetic benchies, it doesn't really matter coz diff in performance for day-to-day usage is negligible, at least for me. d only thing that keep me spendin $$$ on hardware is d satisfaction of tweakin my stuffs, yeah it comes w a price & i know i gotta stop sooner or later... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(fuzore @ Jun 2 2009, 04:09 PM)
why not u stop tomorrow.... whistling.gif
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dah start bit-by-bit dah bro... c'mon, gimme sometimes mah... tongue.gif

d sign is there ledi:
9950 > 7750 > x2 3800+ tongue.gif > athlon 3800+ (single core) laugh.gif

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Jun 2 2009, 04:12 PM)
Correct brows.gif laugh.gif
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dammm yuh xiukeong... mad.gif vmad.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif

in order not to spam, i'll provide some useful information, i'm sure someone posted b4 (by bro digs iirc), but here's a refresh. very gud for estimatin power usage of chip undergone oc... nod.gif

http://extreme.outervision.com/tools.jsp

callin abg otromen: torong.... die org fitnah nie... cry.gif

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QUOTE(verdict @ Jun 2 2009, 10:18 PM)
New Patriot 2x2GB 1000 Mhz kit is with me..he he he... wub.gif  wub.gif

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Patriot's 4GB PC2-7200 and PC2-8000 Viper Series kits offer excellent overclocking capabilities at an affordable price

Patriot Memory, a global provider of premium quality memory module and flash memory solutions, today released its DDR2 Extreme Performance 4GB DDR2 PC2-7200(900MHz) and PC2-8000(1000MHz) Viper Series memory kits. Designed to run at 900MHz and 1000MHz with timings of 4-5-4-12 and 5-5-5-12 respectively, these memory kits offer not only the speed but densities to run the newest DirectX® 10 games, multimedia and professional applications.

(Bukan i kata, worang kata lar...ekekeke) wub.gif
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bro, can try 5-5-5-x @ 1000, see how much juice needed ah? drool.gif

btw, 25MHz more from target & countin down... tongue.gif

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post Jun 3 2009, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(gamers maniac @ Jun 3 2009, 08:05 AM)
walio wei.. verdict got a new ram to play.. sis verdict so rich leh..

want to sell d swiftech storm ar?  currently searching for a water block..
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heavy rain in pepagi buta + aircond + high htt volt =

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QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jun 3 2009, 08:31 AM)
nak increase bus speed more..kena increase nb speed ke??
atau bus speed related to RAM oveclocking also?

limit until 3.63GHz je... sad.gif
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u got unlocked multi why bother bout htt oc? nb oc would be d last stage of oc imo, try to find out d highest clock + ram freq 1st b4 u play w/ nb freq oc. some say nb freq perform best in d region of 2000~2200, but in xs some are doin higher for their 24/7 setup... smile.gif

increment in htt will increase ram freq for sure. nod.gif

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QUOTE(digswell @ Jun 3 2009, 09:37 AM)
sebab u punya..........

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spot on bro... a 460w psu (is that real power or peak power) barely feed enuf juice for d 125watter. some more after oc it consumes as much as 21Xw... time for new psu perhaps? brows.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 3 2009, 11:28 AM)
AM2+ n AM3 using same heatsink socket measurement right?
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yup bro, both using same kinda retension module. nod.gif

QUOTE(ktek @ Jun 3 2009, 11:29 AM)
blood iron-jr series
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isn't blood iron supposed to be value line instead of lanparty, just like d infinity series during d good old days? d red pcb always d indication of a board bein an infinity board back then. rclxub.gif

would hate to see dfi followin asus's footsteps where highly overclockable boards are outta reach most of d time. infinity series were really famous before due its affordability. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 3 2009, 11:54 AM)
i wonder what if hybrid with 4series gpu..5fps gain is ok la..
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too bad hybrid x-fire only work w value line of gfx, else it would be a great feature. guess d point is when you have a high end card, u must pair it w higher/highest end chipset where no igp is inlcuded. doh.gif
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QUOTE(bobiac @ Jun 3 2009, 12:18 PM)
hi, juz woke up lol.
ah_khoo, saw a quad core ss there. no need hide lol
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got meh??? i can't see now... rclxub.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jun 3 2009, 12:24 PM)
i just dont get it.. :/stars:
means can hybrid cf the 3300igp with any ati card u want?  :/stars:  :/stars:
and its 790gx right? able to run 16/16? impressed.
i hardly see ppl using ecs...  :/sweat:
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i seriously doubt so, 790gx board cf @ 16x each would be a steal... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Jun 3 2009, 12:43 PM)
Anywhere I can buy the back panel plate?
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distro is d easiest place to find. nod.gif
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jun 4 2009, 09:54 AM)
i tot acc will help us to gain more..
here i quote something.
u set it at what? im still in a learning process of understanding things. discussion is the best i guess..

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not all chips bend down to acc. but i had gud experience usin it w/ my 9550, 9750, x2 7750 & x3 720. +2%~+4% are quite common to some aod users, they work pretty well. smile.gif

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There is no impact on performance, no change of voltages or frequencies, it just allows for more and higher overclocking. Anandtech reports that the new BIOS of coming motherboards with the SB750 southbridge has a much wider range of settings for the Advanced Clock Calibration (ACC). In the past this function could be set in increments of 1 between -2 up to 0. With the board they've used they could set ACC to anything between -12 to +12. Negative values unlocks lower power operations while higher values unlocks better overclocking.

Exactly what it does hasn't been revealed, but it somehow seems to loosen the strains a bit and allow the cores to be pushed further in either direction. It should be emphasized that this is a Phenom-exclusive feature. You will not gain anything with your Athlon series processors. We should also mention that AMD will use this feature with its coming 45nm processors, which means that the prior reports of decent overclocking with the Deneb core, may be understated.


more HERE... smile.gif

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 4 2009, 10:45 AM)
actually what's that ACC doing?
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higher oc mileage for me... nod.gif

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oopps... EPMW does it again... drool.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 4 2009, 10:53 AM)
mean higher value to get extra OC or still base on luck?
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not exactly, it depends on how core/cores response to acc value assigned. wink.gif
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QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jun 4 2009, 11:07 AM)
hmm.gif sis ah_khoo..
wat to do ah?seems like my OC cant work anymore..
lower down d clock by a 'lil check whether can prime stable? smile.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jun 4 2009, 11:26 AM)
Well that's the hard part, if i'm not mistaken the factory in M'sia just assemble the cpu, the chips n all are made in germany
d stock hsf made in china i think, or at least d kipas of d hsf... tongue.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 4 2009, 11:44 AM)
why don't ask about the gpu thingy at hardware Q&A?
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amd oc thread = rojak thread... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(carbonfibre @ Jun 4 2009, 12:49 PM)
lol bro lets say u got money now and u are thinking of gettin 4GB of DDR2 800mhz gaming ram or get a graphic card(below 200) and live with 2Gb of normal ddr2667 ram =.=

which one will u choose -.-
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on vista, 4gb gamin will help. but xp. i'd say go for gfx upgrade instead. smile.gif

it also depends on what gfx ur usin currently, if d performance gap is big between d targeted & existin, then d answer is kinda obvious ledi... nod.gif


* w d rate of off topicin now, it's just d matter of time b4 we all get warned... sweat.gif icon_question.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jun 4 2009, 02:16 PM)
kvr ddr2 at 2.0v better have some heatspreader/cooling...else ur ram won't last long laugh.gif
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luckily my naked 2 * 1GB kvr667 (d9dcl) didn't stay long enuf for me to kill it... i run 'em naked w 2.2v (1000@ 5-4-4-x) when i had a short spell w dark side... laugh.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jun 4 2009, 02:28 PM)
owh..now i get it.. not the electric contain the memory...
so battery is needed to make memory in place..right?
so, the discharge is to remove the batery electric that still inside the mobo faster?
normally have to leave for 2hr...dschange, then no need to wait for 2hrs right?
lo..that simple.. only me make it complex
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should be bios chip "remember" settings made by usin electricity provided by battery (when it's intact). when u remove it from d bracket, no electricity "supplied" to bios chip to "help" it "remember" d setting thus all settings will be revert back to default (hardcoded into d eeprom via bios flashin). *bro digs, pls correct me if i'm wrong... wink.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 4 2009, 03:21 PM)
aiyo.. now go to windows pulak..

actually it's not 3.2 or 3.5.. it's depends on hardware.. savvy..
can anyone care to explain why not support 4gb?
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The range of integer values that can be stored in 32 bits is 0 through 4,294,967,295 or −2,147,483,648 through 2,147,483,647 using two's complement encoding. Hence, a processor with 32-bit memory addresses can directly access 4 GB of byte-addressable memory.


From Wikipedia

minus some hardware adresses (includin d amount of gpu's mem) so we get 3.xGB outta 4GB ram. not a gud explanation but it's something like this... sweat.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jun 4 2009, 03:23 PM)
last time i use nvidia system utility..
can auto oc the proc also... newer chipset i donno la...
its ntune right? can change alot also... last time when i was a hyper noob, also able to change the pcie freq. noob know nothng. tot can boost the gpu
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nvidia control panel would be something similar to acc i guess... nod.gif


The NVIDIA® Control Panel is NVIDIA's next generation hardware control application that unlocks the award-winning features of NVIDIA drivers. The NVIDIA Control Panel was designed by NVIDIA's dedicated user interface team to revolutionize software ease-of-use and ensure that set-up and configuration of your NVIDIA hardware has never been easier.

Featuring innovative multimedia, application, and display management, as well as gaming features, the NVIDIA Control Panel ensures compatibility, stability, and reliability for all NVIDIA platforms. In addition, the NVIDIA Control Panel is architected for Microsoft® Windows Vista™ and will be fully integrated with the new software infrastructures of its next generation, visually oriented operating system.

Historically, NVIDIA’s Control Panel has contained a wealth of settings and adjustments for NVIDIA GPUs and MCPs. In similar fashion, the NVIDIA Control Panel now applies the same depth of control to the rest of the core components within the system. Without ever leaving Windows or entering the BIOS users can optimize and adjust nearly every system component to minimize noise, increase stability, and maximize performance.

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Key GPU Features

•Simple steps with interactive pictures and descriptions guide you through set-up
•Advanced or beginner views for easy customization
•Optimal game quality with a real-time 3D quality preview
•HDTV quality settings allow you to take advantage of the latest widescreen panels
•Patented NVIDIA Unified Driver Architecture (UDA) supports all of your NVIDIA products
Key MCP features

•Adjust motherboard settings: Change system clocks, system voltages, system fans and memory timings
•Dynamic BIOS access: Change system BIOS settings without entering the BIOS
•Dynamically adjustable memory timings: Change critical memory timings without rebooting and without entering the BIOS
Key Performance Features

•New and improved task-driven user interface.
•Custom Profiles/Rules: Provides the ability to create or choose preconfigured profiles and rules to customize the circumstances under which different system settings get applied to maximize system stability and performance.
•Event logging: Allows the tracking of bus speeds, temperatures, voltages, and profile changes in a log file that may be imported to a spreadsheet application for in-depth analysis.
•Fall-back control: Provides the ability to identify the precise profile/rule associated with a crash (profile/rule will be disabled after crash).
•System troubleshooting: An automated reporting tool captures all needed information to help you determine when problems may be happening to the system, and helps you troubleshoot.
•Improved system monitoring: Temperatures, voltages, and bus speeds are now available as an "always-on-top" window with a transparency option so that it is visible at all times.
•Dynamically adjustable voltages and fan speeds: Adjust motherboard voltage levels without a reboot, as well as dynamically control fan speeds. New option for temperature-based fan control.


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