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shanecross
post Apr 13 2009, 01:49 PM

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Lets not start this flaming kiddo hoo-haa once again.

Like I mentioned in my earlier post, calories are king. You eat 5000 calories a day, you don't expect to loose weight. Simple.

However, strength athletes or anything related to functional aren't really particular because for the fact that aesthetics isn't the main concern. But when I say aren't really particular, they do watch what they eat to a certain extend, you still need to get decent substance in eg; PRO,CR, & FAT.

My point is this, if you are a bodybuilder, go to fitday.com or any similar sites and fill in the food journal to track your macros, heck even i do that once in a while and i'm no bodybuilder.

So, if you are a functional athlete or oly lifter or pl'er , you aren't supposed to track macros and only watch calories. Maybe. Dave Tate was chugging down mcdonalds for jesus knows how long and he is lifting more than any of us here. But when he realized he was putting on too much fat, he decided to watch what he eats. When I say watch it includes macros and calories.

It's a matter of preference and lets not make it like something you read out of a bible, heck even we don't practice most of what we read in the bible. So what?


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post Apr 13 2009, 07:29 PM

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Thread cleaned up. Unnecessary posts removed.
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post Apr 13 2009, 11:16 PM

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post Apr 14 2009, 02:13 PM

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Ok, i'm 1 of those who like to count everything. So when i read about the calculation 40/30/30 by calories or grams, i was wondering if i was doin mine the right way.

Did 2 tables for comparison.
Table A - 40%pro 30%carb 30%fat broken down by calories
Table B - 40%pro 30%carb 30%fat broken down by weight ie. grams
Assumptions are the person's 70kg.

Attached File  protein.pdf ( 130.36k ) Number of downloads: 24


It looks like if we arrange our consumption by calories, the protein consumption per bodyweight is on the higher limit while using the weight method, the protein is on the low side. I guess method A is preferable for those of us into body improvements.

But the biggest impact was in fat, counting calories is a lot healthier. If you look at the calories in method B, if u eat by 40/30/30 by weight, the calories resulting from fat is 40% of the total calory consumption at 1120cal !

Anyway juz to satisfy my curiosity & share here. Semiparalysed ordy..


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post Apr 14 2009, 02:16 PM

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YES HIGH FAT AND HIGH PROTIEN DIET.
kurtkob78
post Apr 14 2009, 02:32 PM

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I am not a pro bodybuilder. But I want to be a bit muscular and stay lean. So I will answer based on my knowledge

1. What is the ratio for protein, carb, fat? I'm seeing things from 40:40:20 to 60:20:20 to 40:20:40.
Normally people will put it this way ---> carb:protein:fat
I practice 55:25:20. Right now not considering cutting yet. If during cutting stage, I will try 40:30:30

2. Is it based on kcal or gram of each of the component in the food?
Based on calories

3. Would the ratio change for different stages of BB e.g. losing weight, bulking, maintenance?
Refer to 1. Cutting will go to the extreme of very low carb. But since I'm not competing. I wont go to the extreme

4. How often do you change your ratios? Weekly, monthly, quarterly, half yearly?
Every week smile.gif

5. What triggers you to adjust your protein, carb, fat intake? Visual inspection of muscle or body fat count?
Based on target. If bulking more carb, if cutting, less carb. Protein must be sufficient anytime

6. Is the ratio based on what is consumed in total per day or per every meal?
Per day. But it's good to incorparate every meal to be a balance meal. I wouldny say eating fruit only is a complete meal.

7. Do you consider taking low GI food or a mix of low GI + med GI food?
I've seen some food plans from ppl in the Members Journal forum. Does anyone of you go for blood tests to check if your liver functions checks out alrite i.e. within the normal range specified in the report?
Take to take low GI as often as you can. Exception for after weight training.
Recently have medical checkup, my blood pressure is normal.

This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Apr 14 2009, 02:35 PM

 

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