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shanecross
post Apr 10 2009, 08:01 PM

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What is the ratio for protein, carb, fat? I'm seeing things from 40:40:20 to 60:20:20 to 40:20:40.
Ratio differs on goals. So the math comes into play when you already figure where you want to head.

Is it based on kcal or gram of each of the component in the food?
Calories are king.

Would the ratio change for different stages of BB e.g. losing weight, bulking, maintenance?
Usually your body adapts to a diet change in approximately 1 week. As much as I never liked keto diets, their adaption period makes alot of sense. Search the Anabolic Diet.

How often do you change your ratios? Weekly, monthly, quarterly, half yearly?
Refer to answer 1

What triggers you to adjust your protein, carb, fat intake? Visual inspection of muscle or body fat count?
Mirror is the best ever result consultant. Body fat is equal.

Is the ratio based on what is consumed in total per day or per every meal?
Like I said, calories are king. However, never neglect the importance of quality calories. Drinking a jug of coke per meal will never help.

Do you consider taking low GI food or a mix of low GI + med GI food?
Balance is key here. Simple carbs have a fast rate of digestion. Post/Pre workout smile.gif Drop by Pubmed to read journals they made on triggering the insulin.

I've seen some food plans from ppl in the Members Journal forum. Does anyone of you go for blood tests to check if your liver functions checks out alrite i.e. within the normal range specified in the report?
Some say its a myth. No harm checking. Yes, most of the dietician are lab junkies. If you happen to drop by a good one, by all means go ahead. Genetics don't count.

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shanecross
post Apr 12 2009, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 12 2009, 01:48 PM)
shanecross : when you mention PubMed have some interesting stuff to read, you weren't kidding.

Dietary protein safety and resistance exercise: what do we really know?

International Society of Sports Nutrition position stand: Nutrient timing

Protein and Overtraining: Potential Applications for Free-Living Athletes

Hmmm....although these are for athletes and the bodybuilders mentioned are powerlifters, I think.

And it looks like they use g rather than kcal to get the carbo : protein : fat ratio. So, which is correct : g or kcal?

Hmm....one thing that's interesting to note is that if using protein as an energy source an additiona 2000-3500 kcal is needed. It's in one of the articles.
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Well, I never knew any part of my reply which is funny.

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Nutrient feedings during exercise have also been researched for their ability to offset muscle damage after intense resistance training [37]. Baty and colleagues[37] had 34 males complete an acute bout of heavy resistance training (3 sets × 8 reps @ 90% 1 RM) while consuming either a CHO solution (6.2% CHO) or a CHO + PRO solution (6.2% CHO + 1.5% PRO) before, during, and after the exercise bout. While no changes in performance were noted, the authors did report significantly greater levels of the anabolic hormone insulin and significantly lower levels of the catabolic hormone cortisol in the participants who ingested the CHO + PRO solution when compared to the CHO solution at several points after exercise. Furthermore, serum levels of myoglobin were lower during and immediately following exercise and creatine kinase was significantly lower 24 hours post exercise when the CHO + PRO supplement was provided. The authors concluded that the CHO + PRO solution had no impact over performance, but did lower serum markers of muscle damage during and several hours after completion of resistance training [37].


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Athletes who ingest 1.5 g CHO/kg body wt. within 30 minutes after exercise have been shown to experience a greater rate of muscle glycogen re-synthesis than when supplementation is delayed by two hours, largely due to a greater sensitivity of muscle to insulin [61]. Additionally, both solid and liquid forms of CHO promote similar levels of glycogen re-synthesis [15,62,63]. Moreover, different forms of CHO have different effects on insulin levels, with fructose ingestion being associated with lower levels of glycogen re-synthesis than other forms of simple carbohydrates [64].


Post workout smile.gif

But still these are journals, they are studies made by people ATW. It may differ.

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shanecross
post Apr 13 2009, 01:49 PM

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Lets not start this flaming kiddo hoo-haa once again.

Like I mentioned in my earlier post, calories are king. You eat 5000 calories a day, you don't expect to loose weight. Simple.

However, strength athletes or anything related to functional aren't really particular because for the fact that aesthetics isn't the main concern. But when I say aren't really particular, they do watch what they eat to a certain extend, you still need to get decent substance in eg; PRO,CR, & FAT.

My point is this, if you are a bodybuilder, go to fitday.com or any similar sites and fill in the food journal to track your macros, heck even i do that once in a while and i'm no bodybuilder.

So, if you are a functional athlete or oly lifter or pl'er , you aren't supposed to track macros and only watch calories. Maybe. Dave Tate was chugging down mcdonalds for jesus knows how long and he is lifting more than any of us here. But when he realized he was putting on too much fat, he decided to watch what he eats. When I say watch it includes macros and calories.

It's a matter of preference and lets not make it like something you read out of a bible, heck even we don't practice most of what we read in the bible. So what?


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post Apr 13 2009, 11:16 PM

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