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post Apr 9 2009, 10:33 AM

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Tomorrow is Good Friday. So, tonight if no good news from US, Dow should head south.

QUOTE(viper88 @ Apr 9 2009, 09:59 AM)
I also feel the same... feel like KLSE ci will drop later evening like yesterday unless US futures very strong..
Tomorrow is friday... most of the traders will exit.
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post Apr 9 2009, 10:38 AM

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looks like bjcorp is the goreng one today...so high already
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QUOTE(elhh82 @ Apr 9 2009, 09:44 AM)
i think today is most likely just the last legs of the rally before it starts going down again. Trap for all the people who are picking up coz they are afraid to miss out. The volume is not convincing at all.

Unless we close near the highs on Monday, then that might be a different story.

Should be a good opportunity to clear all the stock and reload your bullets smile.gif
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QUOTE(elhh82 @ Apr 9 2009, 10:01 AM)
i feel that the rally is dying based on my analysis of the yen exchange rate. If you look at the Yen/Usd exchange rate, it correlates quite well to activity in the emerging markets. When the yen drop, there will be many foreign money going into the small markets, when it goes up, money dries up.

During the last 3 weeks mini-bull, yen was dropping, fast. Since monday,  the yen in reversing the down trend and gaining again, and this coincides with the lower and lower volume in klse. So thats why i think this is just a last desperate push before turning back.

Of course i might be completely wrong. just my 2 cents. tongue.gif
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good observation. i share the same view as you, elhh82.

and it is still too early to say about market recovery. the past 3-weeks rally mostly are contributed by the feel-good factor of the new PM, where you see most GLC and different sectors are taking turn to flying. crude oil went up above USD50 is another factor pushing our plantation and CI to the north.

remember we had nearly 900m volume in just one day? feeling good.
but now, look at the volume.

staying at sideline never hurt sometimes.
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post Apr 9 2009, 10:47 AM

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Lionind oso start to show some buying strength.

5000 lots wack in one go at 0.72. shocking.gif

Still have my lionind.. planning 2 sell off lo.. icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(yeeeeko @ Apr 9 2009, 10:38 AM)
looks like bjcorp is the goreng one today...so high already
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post Apr 9 2009, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(georgechang79 @ Apr 9 2009, 06:58 AM)
Cheroy,

I am looking at KmLoong and Chin Tek. If not mistaken you are also looking at Chin Tek right? Any additional infos?

Chin Tek
PE 5.75  DY 11.38  NTA 5.50

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Yup, I am looking at Chin Tek, a super duper boring counter, but dividend is steady throughout, so not bad as dividend stock.

Without special dividend, consistent dividend based on profit is around 40-50 cents, this year should be at lower end. Still at lower end, it translates more than 7% yield.
Cashflow generation every year around 10-20 million can be expected if without major new investment.

Debt free, sitting with 170 million cash, which translate about 2.50 cash per share.

Singaporean own and management.

Can't buy too much, below hundred lot still ok, more than that difficult to buy and sell, seldom trade, liquidity is low

PE is around 11 based on lasteset Q earning of 14 cents.

Don't expect much from it as it is a boring counter, even when CPO reached 4000 time, its share was around 8+ only. As it won't be fund managers targetted stock due to its low liquidity.
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post Apr 9 2009, 11:01 AM

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K.. Lionind all sold at 0.725 for bigger peanuts. laugh.gif

Now que buy back at 0.70 laugh.gif

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HI EXPERTS,

WHAT HAPPEN TO BJCORP? SUDDENLY SHOOT UP... rclxub.gif
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post Apr 9 2009, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 9 2009, 11:50 AM)
Yup, I am looking at Chin Tek, a super duper boring counter, but dividend is steady throughout, so not bad as dividend stock.

Without special dividend, consistent dividend based on profit is around 40-50 cents, this year should be at lower end. Still at lower end, it translates more than 7% yield.
Cashflow generation every year around 10-20 million can be expected if without major new investment.

Debt free, sitting with 170 million cash, which translate about 2.50 cash per share.

Singaporean own and management.

Can't buy too much, below hundred lot still ok, more than that difficult to buy and sell, seldom trade, liquidity is low

PE is around 11 based on lasteset Q earning of 14 cents.

Don't expect much from it as it is a boring counter, even when CPO reached 4000 time, its share was around 8+ only. As it won't be fund managers targetted stock due to its low liquidity.
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Yup chin tek is one of the best high yield plantation counter nod.gif I tot no one notice it tongue.gif


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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Apr 9 2009, 11:18 AM)
Yup chin tek is one of the best high yield plantation counter  nod.gif I tot no one notice it  tongue.gif
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FCPO just tested new high abit... smile.gif
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Apr 9 2009, 11:18 AM)
Yup chin tek is one of the best high yield plantation counter  nod.gif I tot no one notice it  tongue.gif
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Not no one notice it, just no one mention it, because that's too boring liao. But keep as alternative to FD still all right... haha... much higher rate than FD.
But their directors all very old liao... hmm.gif Quite a number of them from Sinkapo also...

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Apr 8 2009, 01:43 PM)
Congrats.  thumbup.gif Wished I could be like that too but afraid of being left behind..... that's why still holding about 50% stocks.... 3 counters in the green and 1 counter in the red.....

When will you enter the market again?  hmm.gif
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man this thread moves so fast in 24 hours.

well, i dun trade like u all lol. everyday you all check in, i check in maybe once in a week or once in 2 weeks. If follow day to day movement sure panic and die. like air asia, i bought it when it fell to around 0.95, and then it continued to drop to around 0.8 plus. but i held it cuz i just knew around sometime it march 2009 it should be back to above 1. and so i finally sold at 1.06

anyway i've entered into Maybank at 3.88 yesterday evening, and plan to sell sometime around July - August time period, and expect to make some profit. Otherwise i dun mind holding till late this year.

i dun advise people to follow me though, cuz i dun use any formula but rather my own gut feeling. Hasnt failed me so far and so far all my trades have been profitable, though some are small fry profit. all i want is to have my returns more than what i'd get compared to putting into the bank deposit

0.95 air asia (one of the shares i bought at that time) around end of nov sold at 1.06, is about 11% profit for me in around 4 months. so good enough for me smile.gif

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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Apr 9 2009, 09:56 AM)
waaa... away for a few days new thread.. smile.gif.

So, dear high punters... made millions yet????

E&O come ON!!!! LOL..
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What is your T.P for this share before you offload whistling.gif
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post Apr 9 2009, 11:45 AM

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Zelan a gogo again today rclxm9.gif

Viper did you follow own advice and ride the goreng train? brows.gif

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post Apr 9 2009, 12:06 PM

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I que too low 0.735 din managed to get doh.gif

Only get lionind..

Most of the stock i aim went up..

Tgoffs, Osk, Lionind, mrcb..zelan, mmc.. wah seong, kencana, oso.. kao.. all running away from me... shakehead.gif

Zelan news from my remiser seems quite true.. moving towards 0.80 but resistance is strong at 0.77

QUOTE(PBB boleh @ Apr 9 2009, 11:45 AM)
Zelan a gogo again today rclxm9.gif

Viper did you follow own advice and ride the goreng train? brows.gif
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post Apr 9 2009, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Baronic @ Apr 9 2009, 11:36 AM)
man this thread moves so fast in 24 hours.

well, i dun trade like u all lol. everyday you all check in, i check in maybe once in a week or once in 2 weeks. If follow day to day movement sure panic and die. like air asia, i bought it when it fell to around 0.95, and then it continued to drop to around 0.8 plus. but i held it cuz i just knew around sometime it march 2009 it should be back to above 1. and so i finally sold at 1.06

anyway i've entered into Maybank at 3.88 yesterday evening, and plan to sell sometime around July - August time period, and expect to make some profit. Otherwise i dun mind holding till late this year.

i dun advise people to follow me though, cuz i dun use any formula but rather my own gut feeling. Hasnt failed me so far and so far all my trades have been profitable, though some are small fry profit. all i want is to have my returns more than what i'd get compared to putting into the bank deposit

0.95 air asia (one of the shares i bought at that time) around end of nov sold at 1.06, is about 11% profit for me in around 4 months. so good enough for me smile.gif
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I see.....

Yeah, some of us are kaki stock trading..... our way:
- everyday have to see stocks....
- KLSE go up also cannot, KLSE go down also complain....
- we like to eat peanuts, prefer banana but the best is the 'bull with legs'
- even though it hurts, we like to catch the falling knife....
- we don't like holidays

biggrin.gif laugh.gif nod.gif Anything I miss out?

QUOTE(PBB boleh @ Apr 9 2009, 11:45 AM)
Zelan a gogo again today rclxm9.gif

Viper did you follow own advice and ride the goreng train? brows.gif
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Ya la... didn't follow viper88's observation and buy some... doh.gif

Was expecting the stock market to drop before getting some.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Apr 9 2009, 12:14 PM)
I see.....

Yeah, some of us are kaki stock trading..... our way:
- everyday have to see stocks....
- KLSE go up also cannot, KLSE go down also complain....
- we like to eat peanuts, prefer banana but the best is the 'bull with legs'
- even though it hurts, we like to catch the falling knife....
- we don't like holidays

biggrin.gif  laugh.gif  nod.gif Anything I miss out?
Ya la... didn't follow viper88's observation and buy some...  doh.gif

Was expecting the stock market to drop before getting some....  sad.gif
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haha, yea, well, when i first started i did day to day trading as well, but its just too unpredictable and too many speculative factors. ended up making loses. ever since i adapted a...medium term trading, i began to consistently make profits. lol. i also stay away from goreng stocks. stick with stuff that i know will go up and less speculative factors. My gut is telling me by august Maybank should definitely be above 4, and even if it doesnt i can hold and get some dividends. my funds are spare funds so i wun suddenly have to withdraw, so no problems for me biggrin.gif

so my Maybank at 3.88 i plan to sell around august, or if i can get a nice profit before that i'd sell.

I usually dun do "hold somemore, maybe will go higher". Once i obtain my expected returns i sell smile.gif and then wait like a wolf for the next panic selling
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Apr 9 2009, 12:26 PM)
haha, yea, well, when i first started i did day to day trading as well, but its just too unpredictable and too many speculative factors. ended up making loses. ever since i adapted a...medium term trading, i began to consistently make profits. lol. i also stay away from goreng stocks. stick with stuff that i know will go up and less speculative factors. My gut is telling me by august Maybank should definitely be above 4, and even if it doesnt i can hold and get some dividends. my funds are spare funds so i wun suddenly have to withdraw, so no problems for me biggrin.gif

so my Maybank at 3.88 i plan to sell around august, or if i can get a nice profit before that i'd sell.

I usually dun do "hold somemore, maybe will go higher". Once i obtain my expected returns i sell smile.gif and then wait like a wolf for the next panic selling
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Yeah, sometimes goreng can burn you if you're not careful. I'm lucky so far as I play it safe. Earn a bit also ok.

You're not planning to keep Maybank for long term? It will definitely go up kaw kaw one day.... probably in 3-5 years....

I might get Maybank if the price goes down further, to hold for long long looooonnngg term.... I have a feeling that it will go down a bit more once the rights issue has completed and the new shares come in......

QUOTE(sampool @ Apr 9 2009, 12:31 PM)
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Why? Make a lot of money ka? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Apr 9 2009, 01:32 PM)
Yeah, sometimes goreng can burn you if you're not careful. I'm lucky so far as I play it safe. Earn a bit also ok.

You're not planning to keep Maybank for long term? It will definitely go up kaw kaw one day.... probably in 3-5 years....

I might get Maybank if the price goes down further, to hold for long long looooonnngg term.... I have a feeling that it will go down a bit more once the rights issue has completed and the new shares come in......
Why? Make a lot of money ka?  hmm.gif
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ya lol, rclxm9.gif rclxms.gif when buy, leverage down, when sell leverage up. brows.gif

still another 50% more share in stock bank. icon_rolleyes.gif

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