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TSstevito
post Apr 8 2009, 10:48 AM, updated 17y ago

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I post this topic here because its related to mental health

I read newspaper lately. There is one breaking news regarding a young guy admitted suicide because of losing his job.

Well, if you read through the pass history, it always has bad things happened every year. Some people can succeed during economic crisis while others affected by outside forces. On the other hand, when the economic is very good, some people still losing their job. Its just the matter of how you think about yourself. If you think on positive way, you will get positive force. (The Secret)

There is a free webinar from mental health program

Topic: Suicide Prevention for Rural Primary Care: a Toolkit for Providers
The presentation will include information on suicide risk identification, suicide prevention, and prescribing for depressed patients

http://www.wiche.edu/mentalhealth/grand_ro...tioninRural.asp

Hope that those info can help you get to know more about suicide prevention.
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post Apr 8 2009, 11:06 AM

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commiting suicide is not so common in M'sia compared to Japan

but stress & depression is very high, worst it leads to theft & roberry.
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post Apr 8 2009, 11:18 AM

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Ya... I also hope that stress and depression wouldn't turn to suicide case.
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post Apr 8 2009, 11:19 AM

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Trust me Malaysians are so bloody cowardly they probably will run before they commit suicide.
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post Apr 8 2009, 11:28 AM

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So young also want to commit suicide, GTFO.
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post Apr 8 2009, 12:02 PM

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Ya... most of the people committed suicide without the reason.. wait, i should say we can't understand them. That is why I posted some suicide prevention info.
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post Apr 8 2009, 01:42 PM

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Suicides are for cowards. Everybody faces difficulties in some point of their lives and taking the easy way out is not the answer. The stupidest type of suicides are the ones who kill themselves over a lost love. It might hurt like hell if we break up with our loved ones but this is not the end of the world. Be brave and move on - who knows there might be a better guy/girl out there waiting for you.
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post Apr 8 2009, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 8 2009, 11:19 AM)
Trust me Malaysians are so bloody cowardly they probably will run before they commit suicide.
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cheers.gif ya ya cheers.gif

QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 8 2009, 11:28 AM)
So young also want to commit suicide, GTFO.
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These things dont aim by age.hehe.
heck, even heart attack and stroke are hitting 30+-yr old people often d.
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post Apr 8 2009, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 8 2009, 11:19 AM)
Trust me Malaysians are so bloody cowardly they probably will run before they commit suicide.
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Good or bad I wonder hmm.gif Haha
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post Apr 8 2009, 03:56 PM

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Those of you who are condemning people who commit suicide obviously don't know what it means to have depression lasting for years. Stop talking out of your ignorance unless you have any idea at all what these people go through. My god such stupidity.

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post Apr 8 2009, 04:25 PM

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Fearz!! i just posted this topic to help people understand more about suicide prevention!
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post Apr 8 2009, 04:29 PM

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wei... it still dont justify y u hav to go suicidal rite? leaving behind ur mess for other to settle .. life is hard.. so face it.. if like is easy .. u will be like animal...
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post Apr 8 2009, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(fearz @ Apr 8 2009, 03:56 PM)
Those of you who are condemning people who commit suicide obviously don't know what it means to have depression lasting for years. Stop talking out of your ignorance unless you have any idea at all what these people go through. My god such stupidity.
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TS didn't condemn & it's related to health since we're in a Health & Fitness Forum.
So mind your words before replying.
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post Apr 9 2009, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(ah liew @ Apr 8 2009, 10:11 PM)
TS didn't condemn & it's related to health since we're in a Health & Fitness Forum.
So mind your words before replying.
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Nice spamming here, btw that guy wasn't referring to TS. Do read the whole thread. Some are blaming the suicide victims. That's unjustified and mean.

Heres some news related to this topic; from the Star:

Chinese ‘more suicidal’


A TOTAL of 43% of suicide victims are Chinese, Nanyang Siang Pau reported yesterday.

Quoting statistics from the Health Department, Women, Family and Community Development Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ng Yen Yen said that while the Chinese only made up 26% of the population in the country, nearly half of the suicide cases involved members from the community.

“Cases of men committing suicide are two-fold higher than women (for all races),” she said during a dinner with MCA delegates in Sungai Petani.

Dr Ng said a counselling unit would be set up under her ministry to help men. She was of the view that men, especially Chinese, did not confide in their friends when they faced problems.

“Women faced with problems will tell their friends or resort to crying and this helps to reduce stress.

“Apart from focusing on issues related to women and children, the ministry is also concerned with problems faced by men that may lead to a family tragedy at times,” she said.

Dr Ng also said men resorted to violence to resolve their problems while women tended to use their minds.


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post Apr 9 2009, 02:24 AM

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Well if people build their whole life to revolve around money then obviously when the money is gone then their life will have nothing else to fall back on so suicide is the best option
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post Apr 9 2009, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Polaris @ Apr 9 2009, 02:24 AM)
Well if people build their whole life to revolve around money then obviously when the money is gone then their life will have nothing else to fall back on so suicide is the best option
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too bad that's the motive of most of the people who working currently. Who don't work for money? The rich and smart one.
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post Apr 14 2009, 01:15 PM

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Well, most suicidal people are depressed. That's y its important for us to provide support and care for our loved ones.

Money is just one of the triggering factors, but the actual cause is severe depression or other mental illnesses.
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post Apr 14 2009, 01:21 PM

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Young men sucide huh?
depression is a very serious problem ... it causes the person to reject others and stay in solitude

and due to extensive time in solitude ... one would think the world does not need him/her ... thus the thinking of sucide slowly arises ....


most of us may think depression only for stressed ppl ... but animals DO has such a behaviour as well ....

so if you have a slight depression ... quickly call your friends for a short chat ... DO NOT let the problem lingers as things might get MESSY later on
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All humans are born depressed, it is the veil and this illusionary world we live in that distracts us from the journey to the truth. It's those who've broken away from the illusionary system created for us and got lost, end up in depression.
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post Apr 14 2009, 01:32 PM

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i think police in msia is crazy.... if u fail to suicide they will charge u and send u to jail. from newspaper last year.
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post Apr 14 2009, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 14 2009, 01:32 PM)
i think police in msia is crazy.... if u fail to suicide they will charge u and send u to jail. from newspaper last year.
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It's not crazy, I think they're doing gd for implementing this law. Imagine one day you're walking on the roadside, suddenly there's one fella jumping off from the building and hits you, then both of you die.... Still think they're not doing the rite thing?
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post Apr 14 2009, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 14 2009, 01:32 PM)
i think police in msia is crazy.... if u fail to suicide they will charge u and send u to jail. from newspaper last year.
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In fact, suicide is an offense is most country.
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post Apr 14 2009, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(fearz @ Apr 8 2009, 03:56 PM)
Those of you who are condemning people who commit suicide obviously don't know what it means to have depression lasting for years. Stop talking out of your ignorance unless you have any idea at all what these people go through. My god such stupidity.
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What makes you so sure that people who condemn suicides don't know anything about depression? I was suffering from severe depression for 3 years and was under constant medication to control it. It was through sheer hard will that I finally manage to pull myself out of the hole that I dug for myself during those dark years. I admit the thought of suicide crossed my mind before but I kept telling myself that I will overcome it if I want to. I've lost so-called friends who didn't stood by me when I needed them the most and I am actually thankful to be rid of them because now I know what kind of 'friends' they are.

Don't presume anything. While I cannot answer for the others, I know first hand what it is like to be feel suffocated by a cloud of depression that's so bad that sometimes it makes one hard to breathe. Have you been through those kind of feelings before? Of despair that never seem to go away and everything around you just falls apart? I have and now 6 years later I've pulled myself out of it. Did I ever think of suicide? Yes. Did I attempted suicide? No. Not everyone who commits suicides suffers from depression. Don't generalize all suicides are people suffering from depression. I have talked to and meet people who suffers from desperation and befriended them and while some are still struggling with it, they have never resort or think of taking their lives.

If you notice, the suicides being committed nowadays are mostly by teenagers/young adults who broke up/dumped by their boyfriends/girlfriends. There was this case of a girl from Taiwan with a promising singing career who killed herself because her boyfriend left her for another girl. Another instance in Malaysia where a girl drank weed poison because her parents oppose of her relationship with her boyfriend. Another killed himself in the UK because his virtual girlfriend left him. Are you telling me those kind of suicides are not stupid? I am calling them stupid for killing themselves over something that is not worth dying for. I am not calling them stupid for doing it because of religious reasons. I have never believed the 'all suicides go to hell' thing but I do believe that one's life is worth more than a broken/soured relationship.
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 14 2009, 01:43 PM)
In fact, suicide is an offense is most country.
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yup, suicide is an offense.

if kill someone (homicide) is wrong, then suicide is also wrong (killing him/herself). simple logic rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Apr 14 2009, 02:44 PM)
What makes you so sure that people who condemn suicides don't know anything about depression? I was suffering from severe depression for 3 years and was under constant medication to control it. It was through sheer hard will that I finally manage to pull myself out of the hole that I dug for myself during those dark years. I admit the thought of suicide crossed my mind before but I kept telling myself that I will overcome it if I want to. I've lost so-called friends who didn't stood by me when I needed them the most and I am actually thankful to be rid of them because now I know what kind of 'friends' they are.

Don't presume anything. While I cannot answer for the others, I know first hand what it is like to be feel suffocated by a cloud of depression that's so bad that sometimes it makes one hard to breathe. Have you been through those kind of feelings before? Of despair that never seem to go away and everything around you just falls apart? I have and now 6 years later I've pulled myself out of it. Did I ever think of suicide? Yes. Did I attempted suicide? No. Not everyone who commits suicides suffers from depression. Don't generalize all suicides are people suffering from depression. I have talked to and meet people who suffers from desperation and befriended them and while some are still struggling with it, they have never resort or think of taking their lives.

If you notice, the suicides being committed nowadays are mostly by teenagers/young adults who broke up/dumped by their boyfriends/girlfriends. There was this case of a girl from Taiwan with a promising singing career who killed herself because her boyfriend left her for another girl. Another instance in Malaysia where a girl drank weed poison because her parents oppose of her relationship with her boyfriend. Another killed himself in the UK because his virtual girlfriend left him. Are you telling me those kind of suicides are not stupid? I am calling them stupid for killing themselves over something that is not worth dying for. I am not calling them stupid for doing it because of religious reasons. I have never believed the 'all suicides go to hell' thing but I do believe that one's life is worth more than a broken/soured relationship.
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thanks for your reply, really enlighten me.
I am glad you managed to been though it and selflessly share it with us.
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meh.

them who suicides dun know that there is more suffering for them on the other side. sweat.gif
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post Apr 14 2009, 07:48 PM

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if they know...they wont commit suicide for sure....haha smile.gif
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post Apr 15 2009, 11:13 AM

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Yeah, suicide is a coward act. But it's better if the person commit suicide rather then go out and be a robber or killer or any other criminal acts.
At least the liability has gone.
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Apr 15 2009, 11:13 AM)
Yeah, suicide is a coward act. But it's better if the person commit suicide rather then go out and be a robber or killer or any other criminal acts.
At least the liability has gone.
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but the family of the suicide victim has to clean up the mess after the suicide, spend various expenses on the funeral etc. sweat.gif

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cetek la minda org yg g bunoh diri ni....
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post Apr 15 2009, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Apr 15 2009, 11:58 AM)
but the family of the suicide victim has to clean up the mess after the suicide, spend various expenses on the funeral etc. sweat.gif
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Well would u rather invest on the funeral or letting the person went robbing people or commiting assaults or maybe kill a person?
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suicide is not a way le...only coward do dat...
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Apr 15 2009, 01:51 PM)
Well would u rather invest on the funeral or letting the person went robbing people or commiting assaults or maybe kill a person?
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lol since you put it that way, yeah, funeral costs is a much better option here. laugh.gif

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post Apr 15 2009, 04:28 PM

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That's why those people committed suicide.
They know that if they continue to live, they will end up doing robbery, killing, rapes and many more.
They had actually sacrificed their life for others..
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Apr 15 2009, 04:28 PM)
That's why those people committed suicide.
They know that if they continue to live, they will end up doing robbery, killing, rapes and many more.
They had actually sacrificed their life for others..
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wah.

are you sure it is really like that one? sweat.gif

all those who committed suicide, would do robbery, killing, rapes etc if they do not commit suicide. shocking.gif

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i dun think its like dat...theres tons of reason dat lead to suicides le...most of the time these ppl are sad ..events such as dead of love ones,bankruptcy,family problems, etc...they felt dat cant contribute to the society liao or nothing to hope for liao then they stick a mechanical pencil on their throat and die ...opss .. but the point is if the person have a strong faith they wont do dat...coz on the other side more suffering awaits...the shinigami will come to take you first...
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most of the time i guess people cant cross over one of his life's obstacle, people who almost commit suicide but didn't later most realised how stupid he was.

 

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