I'd like to contribute to the OP.

A few things about me:

I have spent most of my life away from this country. At the age of 12, I was sent to Singapore to live alone. Came back to Malaysia at 16, and then left at 17 for the USA. I am now almost 24 (2nd January 2012!), and I also have an American wife.

So for me, culture is not relevant in chasing women. It's all a matter of a biological approach to psychology. All emotions can be broken down into chemical reactions within the body.

Now that I have set the scene for my contribution, let me go on to the meat of the subject.

What exactly do women want?

You've heard that question asked before. They say no one knows..., and they also say they're all different.

But a studies have shown that women generally want one big thing: Economic resources.

No matter what country, all women want is economic resources. This can mean money, but it can also mean resources in general. If you're in Africa, it may be food. This is due to the simple fact that men with resources are also those who are likely to become good fathers.

Yes, it sounds cheesy. That women want a well-moneyed man to bear a child. But don't forget that if you peel away all the fluff and sentiments, humans are basically animals. We have certain biological urges and needs.

If you expand on that line of reasoning, women want a man who can take care of themselves. An alpha male. The alpha male back in the caveman days was the best man to take care of your child. No one screwed with him, and no one would even dare touch his family.

The Alpha Male

The definition of an alpha male has changed over human history. Back in the caveman days, he was the best and strongest hunter. Today? Perhaps the one with the best paying job? Or the nicest car? Or the biggest house? No one can say for sure.

But note that I said NOTHING about how handsome you are. Even the ugliest mofo can be surrounded by women, provided he fulfills the role of alpha male.

Yes, looks do matter. If you're so ugly that women can't even stand to look at you for a second, you've got a longer path ahead of you. But you're also in luck, because your looks mainly come into play during a woman's ovulation period. That's when they're in "heat", so to say, and they're looking for a man with the best genetic makeup. How handsome you are is in correlation with how good your genes are.

But this only matters during ovulation. The rest of the time, they're still looking for a good father.

So the alpha male really is a man of character and resources. These are things you CAN control, unlike your looks.

So if you're ugly, ignore your looks. That is beyond your control, and you should stop worrying about it. Besides, looks don't last. When you're old and decrepit, all you have left is character and resources. Those will stay with you until you die.

In Summary:

So women want just ONE thing, the alpha male. The alpha male is not the handsomest guy in town, but the man with the best character, and the most resources behind him.

What does "the best character" mean? That changes depending on your generation. Keep a lookout on what traits women of your generation admire, and make yourself into that.

Don't think it's possible to change into that person? Well, that's where you're wrong. Initially, it may feel like you're living a lie, but if you consistently repeat it to yourself, you will eventually believe that you are that person, and act accordingly (but FFS, don't go acting like Edward from Twilight. That is but a temporary fad. If you truly look between the lines of Twilight, it is a story that is ultimately very hateful towards women).

Also, make lots of money. If you have no money, you're going to have to settle for crappier women. Women may not admit that they want money, but science says otherwise. Economic resources is what women want, and in our modern society, economic resources means money. Why do you think Hugh Heffner has a mountain of women to sleep with every night? He has character, and he has piles and piles of cash.

I also recommend all those who are interested to read the book, "The Game" by Neil Strauss. Also polish your knowledge of the biological approach to psychology. Women are complex creatures, but so is quantum physics, and I don't see physicists saying quantum physics is beyond their understanding. Use science as your backup, and go from there.

Good luck!

This post has been edited by dothackRAVE: Dec 23 2011, 11:42 AM

It sounds really cold, but yes, that is the right partner for most people. It's a well known statistic that most couples fight over one thing: MONEY. Most divorces happen over the same thing too.

Money is what allows us as human beings to function without undue stress. The poor are always under huge stress, because when the bills and ah longs show up at their door, they have no way to pay them. Stress makes us less considerate of other people (for obvious reasons, since self-preservation is the highest priority for our animal selves), so in a relationship, you start to care less and less for the other person.

Romantic love is an entirely human invention. Before the Medieval times and courtly love, there was no such thing in real life (they were primarily relegated to stories and philosophical studies). You went to war, you conquered, you got all the glory (you became the alpha male), and then you got the women. That or you married the peasant man-beast who hates you but married you anyway so she could have children to help with the farm.

Now, see, that's where we disagree. I relish in being true to my animal self: The way nature designed me. Of course, I can't go out and kill the next weakest person, but I can certainly live by the laws of natural selection in other, completely legal ways.

If anything, those who are all about instant and self-gratification are those who are true to themselves. For what else are you going to do with the one shot you have at life? You can certainly choose to be subservient to others (a noble choice, to be sure), or you can enjoy the journey to your coffin and pluck every sweet fruit you can from the tree of life.

I don't have anything against your life ideals. I admit, the world will be in total chaos if everyone thought like me. There'll be no society, no friendship, no economy, nothing.

I think ultimately, people should do what will give them the least regrets when they're on their deathbeds. For what is the point of a regretful life?

On the subject of money, I frankly don't agree (what else is new?). Money gives me the ability to have a safe household (able to live in a nice neighborhood), have my family's security guaranteed (no ah longs at my door), and happiness for us all (we can buy nice cars, an XBox, a nice dog). And then carrying that forward, my children will have the best education (because I can afford it), the best experiences, the best of everything. Then hopefully, with the right values instilled in them, they can do better than what I have done, for I have given them the best of everything, creating discontent in them (they will want something better).

I can't imagine a relationship where we're poor as hell, have the worst of everything, and then we're supposed to be happy? If all our experiences are terrible, even the best relationships will crack overtime if not break completely.

P.S. >> There's a saying on 9gag..."Money can't buy you happiness, but it can certainly buy you a nice yacht to suffer in".

This post has been edited by dothackRAVE: Jan 18 2012, 12:08 AM

Dear silverhawk, I think we can agree to disagree? We're on completely opposite ends of the spectrum. I am ultimately selfish, and see no problems with it. You are ultimately un-selfish, and see no problems with that either.

So let's just stop right here. Nobody is going to change their minds. I know I will not regret my way of life (it is part of my philosophy to have no regrets, and no apologies), and you don't seem like you will have any regrets.

Good luck!