With all due respect, "love shyness" and not having standards of your own are two very different things.
I will state for the record that I am suspicious about the whole terminology of "love shyness". It looks very dubious to me. In addition, for a man to describe himself as "love shy" is un-masculine and borders on neuterdom.
Also consider what good does such a broad diagnosis do? Now that the problem has been diagnosed, what are the solutions?
You should know that there are millions of men out there who have overcome various specific anxieties to lead fulfilling lives, even in the area of sexuality, love and relationships. Can the same be said of the people who consider themselves "love shy"?
correct me if I am wrong >> from what I understand of the first post, that I as a guy in order to get the girl that I want, I must firmly remain being myself, firmly remain who I am, and (or) firmly remain what I am, with absolutely no compromise? >> for example, I should continue being the quiet guy, continue being the self-sufficient guy, continue being the self-centered guy, continue being the anti-social guy, continue being the guy who is only interested in his own things, and continue being the guy who is only interested in certain types of people >> because that is who I am, because I am like that, because that is what I am, and because that is me by nature in an unpretentious manner?? >> from what I understand of the first post once again, that I should NOT attempt to try to change or alter myself and my character/personality in order to try to get/tailor-suit myself to the girl that I want?
People change. The concept of the self changes invariably through the experiences a person lives through.
There is no such thing as a man or woman who is the same as before and will be the same in the future.
A lot of people measure themselves as who they are in the present. Who they are now, who they were before, is who they will always be. This is not true.
Perhaps if people understood the fact that nothing stays the same, not even themselves, then they would endeavor to steer their own destinies more, even if just in small, little ways.
Having standards includes having standards for yourself. There's always little things (if not big things) that a person can do to improve his abilities or quality of life or depth of experience.
If people thought like that, then the drive for positive change and dynamism would be as natural as breathing, as opposed to the ever prevalent need for comfort and the familiar.
Added on August 1, 2009, 5:53 amWhen life isn't fair, sometimes you gotta grow a pair...
Never compromise on your wants and needs, never apologise for your desires.
This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Aug 1 2009, 06:21 PM
I am basically trying to "so call improve myself" by being determine to "open up my mind in this respect" to learn some social skills as in "people dealing skills", "communication skills", and "interaction skills" as such... However, to be honest, it is (and it has been) an "uphill battle" for me as I am "simply just not" that type of person... But right now, my parents are placing an extreme amount of emphasis into my head on "Social Skills", "People Dealing Skills", "People Interaction Skills", and "Communication Skills" etc as such... They think that I am "Seriously Lacking" in this aspect, thus I MUST "Bark-Up" in this area... (Yeah, that is what my parents think.)
So right now I am just trying to 'Improve' myself in this area/aspect. Hmmm..., does this go against the theory/advice/suggestion (of this topic)?
It does not go against the theory/advice/suggestions in this topic at all.
I've spoken to a few introverts, most of them older, and they do tell me that learning social skills and even extroverted traits has actually helped them in many ways, even though they still prefer their own company and privacy most of the time.
These were men and women who pretty much had no parental or peer guidance in this area, so they had to learn and discover the importance of this need and ability for themselves.
Hmm, I'm curious though. How exactly are you learning social skills at the moment? Which areas are you perceived to lack, and how are you addressing this?
P.S: Btw, I pretty much agree with everything that Silverhawk said on the matter.
This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Aug 1 2009, 06:32 PM
Leet 73, I think that you're on the right path. What you experienced in high school must definitely have been quite a shocker.
The most important thing is not to let that get you down. If those friends of yours had malicious intent, then their intention would be to forever change you in such a way.
I pretty much agree with everything Silverhawk has said but I'd like to add two more things:
1. Learn how to be a good judge of character. Not all people are equal, in character at least. The unworthy are not deserving of friendship.
2. It's more fun socialising when you're participating in an activity you like! When a group of people have a similar passion and interest then it becomes much easier to socialise. Who knows you might even make real friends! So go join an activity you're really interested in and talk to the people there.
Somehow my coursemates all damn passive one lo. I love sports. They don't even want to walk to the sports complex. Hence my passion for sports died on the spot. Along with a lot of other stuffs. Sad.
I don't feel like doing all of these stuffs alone tho. Now I will la, no choice I want to break free from this shithole.
Don't let driveless eunuchs affect you like that. Good choice to break free from their shithole clutches.
Try posting notices and meeting people at the sports complex itself? Who knows, if the staff there are friendly they might even help you out to find a team or summat. Then you no need to be alone oredi.
people cant change. theres science in it. its in the BLOOD. GENES. DNA. CHARACTER. what u are at 3yrold is what u'll be at 80-chinese proverb.
the so-called 'change' is just being pretentious. admit it. Dont try to change for anyone. just be urself
Did somebody say genes and DNA?
Well, the environment affects GENETIC EXPRESSION.
People owe it to themselves to put themselves in dynamic environments and situations where they can bring out the best of themselves through experience and learning.
A man or woman does this, they'll get very far in life compared to a chode that doesn't do squat except "be himself".
The latter probably ends up as an aged video game nerd who lost his virginity to a hooker.
People can change, only if they want to. The reason why people do not change it is because they have yet to come to the realization that there is something not entirely right or good with them. If they constantly have this mentality of "Hey, I'm good, I am alright. Things are going well" then there isn't a reason to change, thus there is no petrol to the engine, and no motion.
I am a walking, talking and breathing example of a PC game nerd. Whatever stereotypes you've read and heard about gamers, I represented them all too well. This was a few years back. Along the way, somethings happened and some didn't that propagated me to change. I'll not lie and say that the old self has completely gone, some remnants and traits are around and it is a conscious effort to battle them. As much as I type this without trying to boast, enough people have told me and commented that I did change from worse to better - not exceptionally good, but getting there
A person who says "I can't change. I am born like this" is in actual fact just lazy and complacent, wanting to blame circumstances rather than to take personal responsibilities for personal actions and well being. You know it's true. It is human nature to always blame everyone and everything around them for all the wrongs, all the frustrations and disappointments - never once looking at oneself and think "Hey, maybe all this was because I made some poor choices which resulted in undesired circumstances" Awesome video Dickson =]
Did u read the book? From my reading, all i can see is, it almost for a ppl who go to club. N they have specific approach on how to open. Still half way before i finish the book. But, they are very confident ppl. Almost feel no fear bout rejection.
Erm i need some advice or get some senses knock into me.
Well here goes, i am a very shy person or u could say passive. I wish u guys could tell me how to get to know girls. I have very few girl friends and i find it hard to be friends with girl. If this keeps on i don`t think i will be able to get a gf or perhaps be single forever.
Are you able to express yourself well? Because if you are, then just either work in settings you're comfortable in, or slowly expand the circles you are comfortable in.
firstly, your look ... if you're good looking its a plus point if you dont, make sure you have a neat clean look
and never have a too serious look, girls will be scared of you. Show your smile to make people felt comfortable with you
Be interesting, be a humourus person who can makes the girl laugh but if you're making too much joke, you're just another joker/laughther friend for her be a listener to her, tell her stories that showing your good deeds/sincerity
when u tell your own story, tell her with enthusiasm. Dont get too excited or too much of hand movement, it will scared the gal off if you noticed she's getting boring, cut the story off. Not every person gets into your story
Dirty jokes are ok, but keep it very minimal and not so dirty. Sexist joke are not recommended especialy they just met you. Dont swear even once.
Do show yourself is in relax position. Dont try too hard or so desperate. Girls are turn off with that
if you possess these, she will be fine to come out with you again or calling you frequent for chat
good nite dudes ... its 3am now ... t.b.continue
These are very good tips.
This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Jan 12 2010, 06:57 PM