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Travel Club LYN Japan V2, 日本へようこそ!, Here we are! Nihon Yokoso!

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post Sep 24 2009, 03:31 PM

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I'll most likely be going to TGS on Sunday around noon time and staying for an hour or two. If you guys will be there, wanna try meeting up for a cup of coffee? smile.gif
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post Sep 24 2009, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(heterosapiens @ Sep 24 2009, 03:49 PM)
Definitely, if the cup of coffee could be drank while queuing up for game demos tongue.gif
Anyway, I'll PM you my contact number once I have it.
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LOL ... sure sure. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 24 2009, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(keii-kun @ Sep 24 2009, 09:00 PM)
hahahaa nice...malaysia also got jam, 7hrs from KL to Taiping via NorthSouth hway last friday night doh.gif

did u had a go on the sai no kawara onsen? brows.gif
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Unfortunately nope... We didn't really had much time to go and sample all the onsen... only managed to go to 2 of them. But nonetheless, it was great fun and relaxing. smile.gif


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QUOTE(musha @ Sep 24 2009, 09:49 PM)
argh.. I may work.. sh*t.. but maybe no.. learn from fire.. skip work.. Haha..
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Working on Sunday??? Skip work la~~ tongue.gif

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post Sep 25 2009, 09:58 PM

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Haha.. cool. Tomm I'm kinda busy so can only make it on Sunday. Perhaps you can post up what's good to check out if you find anything interesting so I can look forward to it on Sunday. wink.gif
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post Sep 25 2009, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(spidergirl @ Sep 25 2009, 10:57 PM)
Wish I get to go to biz TGS, but was lost in Ghibli world this afternoon, and gone to Makuhari a bit too late...the journey took us about more than 1 hour. That's crazy! I went for TGS's SOWN (Sense of Wonder Night) instead. Not bad...but like every Jap-meets-international event, everything is stretched twice the time since translation in Japs takes FOREVER!

Btw, which method is the fastest to go to TGS Makuhari Messe? I went there via Chuo/Sobu line...mcm kura-kura je. Plus it stops at Makuhari Hongo. Naik bus kena bayar 240 yen...mahal gile. Patut gi ke JR Keisen-Makuhari?

Hey...did you guys heard the news on the JR accident. I saw the news alert in JR office and on tv, but not sure where exactly. Google also x jumpa.

Aduuuuh...kena bangun awal. Mcm malas nak gi plak tongue.gif
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KaihinMakuhari is the station you'll need to get off. It's the nearest station and only about 5 min walk to Makuhari Messe. You can take this from Tokyo Station. (Check http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi for details from your nearest station).

JR accident? Didn't hear any news... but if it's like human accident etc... then it's ermm... quite normal. sad.gif
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post Sep 27 2009, 05:18 PM

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Just got back from TGS... Managed to try out a few games this time. rclxms.gif

heterosapiens: I called your friend's number but no one pick up... I'm guessing you guys are busy queuing or something. Anyway, if you guys wanna meet up on weekdays, I'll be free after normal work hours. smile.gif

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post Sep 27 2009, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(tanoshi @ Sep 27 2009, 09:43 PM)
Perghhhh bro! How long do you stay today in TGS? from wat time to wat time?
Thinkin to go oso lor....anyone for Tamashii Nation next Friday? hmm.gif
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I was there from noon till around 4:00pm.
Next Friday got work and dinner plans already... gomen ne~
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post Oct 2 2009, 10:46 AM

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Haha... maybe cause everyone busy? tongue.gif
I didn't hear any news from heterosapiens... Apa jadi bro? Runaway with nihon chicks already? LOL
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post Oct 2 2009, 12:12 PM

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Sunday evening... I'm free. What you wanna makan? smile.gif
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post Oct 2 2009, 04:12 PM

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Haha... ok ok ... hmmm... Wanna go for some hainanese chicken rice in Ebisu then?
http://bento.com/rev/2414.html

Anyone else in Tokyo wanna join?
(Sorry... not sure if the restaurant is Halal or not as I've not been there before... just found it on bento.com).
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post Oct 2 2009, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(asuk @ Oct 2 2009, 06:47 PM)
sounds great. i'll give u a call on sunday
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Okie dokie. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Eiraku @ Oct 2 2009, 08:31 PM)
Hey there guys! I'm planning to head down to Japan with some pals (Tokyo, to be precise),  on a week-long budget trip sometime around Nov-Dec.

Any tips on keeping costs low for food, accommodations and transport? Any tips regarding where to stop by, maybe any interesting big 'matsuri's within that time frame in the Kanto region?

I've done some preliminary research on the subject, but I need opinions from people who've spent a whole lot more time there, me being strictly limited in terms of budget and all (we're looking at airplane fare plus a few thou ringgits - sad huh?).

So no Disneyland, "real" hotels or stuff like that for me.

It will (if it even happens) be my second time in Japan, having spent a week around Yokohama a few years back. It will be the first time for my pals though, and I have this feeling that they're hoping I'd be a good guide (which I'm far from... T_T ), so any help would be appreciated.

In terms of Japanese, I can talk and understand a little bit. I completely fail when it comes to reading and writing though.

To provide further info, I curik'ed the questions meant for aichiban (sorry dude):

-Why do want to come to Japan?
To jalan-jalan. I rindu the place actually.

- What thing do you like? Your interest...?
Japan, in all it's complexity... laugh.gif
Okay, I'm interested in culture stuff, maybe some nature (cheap onsens?), and everything they have in Akihabara (yes, everything). Also scouting for locations that I might just put in a novel I'm currently thinking of in me mind (if it ever gets written anyhow).

- Which part of Japan?
Kanto region, mainly Tokyo and Yokohama. If something really interesting is happening in the bordering regions, I might be able to stretch a bit and go though.

- How bout your budget
Very limited. We're talking youth hostels (or maybe even cybercafes) and 100 yen shop bentos here guys. I would prolly have nothing more then two k ringgits on me.

Dozo Yoroshiku guys! And thanks... biggrin.gif
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Eiraku: Reply you tomm... a bit drunk now and can't think straight... LOL whistling.gif
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post Oct 3 2009, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Oct 2 2009, 08:31 PM)
Hey there guys! I'm planning to head down to Japan with some pals (Tokyo, to be precise),  on a week-long budget trip sometime around Nov-Dec.

Any tips on keeping costs low for food, accommodations and transport? Any tips regarding where to stop by, maybe any interesting big 'matsuri's within that time frame in the Kanto region?

I've done some preliminary research on the subject, but I need opinions from people who've spent a whole lot more time there, me being strictly limited in terms of budget and all (we're looking at airplane fare plus a few thou ringgits - sad huh?).

So no Disneyland, "real" hotels or stuff like that for me.

It will (if it even happens) be my second time in Japan, having spent a week around Yokohama a few years back. It will be the first time for my pals though, and I have this feeling that they're hoping I'd be a good guide (which I'm far from... T_T ), so any help would be appreciated.

In terms of Japanese, I can talk and understand a little bit. I completely fail when it comes to reading and writing though.

To provide further info, I curik'ed the questions meant for aichiban (sorry dude):

-Why do want to come to Japan?
To jalan-jalan. I rindu the place actually.

- What thing do you like? Your interest...?
Japan, in all it's complexity... laugh.gif
Okay, I'm interested in culture stuff, maybe some nature (cheap onsens?), and everything they have in Akihabara (yes, everything). Also scouting for locations that I might just put in a novel I'm currently thinking of in me mind (if it ever gets written anyhow).

- Which part of Japan?
Kanto region, mainly Tokyo and Yokohama. If something really interesting is happening in the bordering regions, I might be able to stretch a bit and go though.

- How bout your budget
Very limited. We're talking youth hostels (or maybe even cybercafes) and 100 yen shop bentos here guys. I would prolly have nothing more then two k ringgits on me.

Dozo Yoroshiku guys! And thanks... biggrin.gif
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I think konbini food will prolly be the cheapest. Also, if you're wiling to shop night time, usually an hour before any supermarket closes; they do like 50% discount on all their perishable food (bento, salads, bread, fruits etc... ). That's a great way to cut cost if you're on a tight budget. Also, I don't really find the food being sold during matsuris being cheap but then if you can go and experience one; it'll be nice.

There's like 2 onsen that I know of in Tokyo (one is Oedo Onsen in Odaiba and the other is in LaQua near Tokyo Dome). As for the price I think the range is about 2000-3000 per person. Not sure about other parts though.

I think RM2k should be sufficient to last you for a week minus any extra shopping.

QUOTE(matt85 @ Oct 2 2009, 11:38 PM)
Kampai with Asahi again eh ?  brows.gif
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Haha... what to do... biasa-lah~ tongue.gif



QUOTE(WizGuy @ Oct 3 2009, 06:20 AM)
Hi All smile.gif I'm new and nice to meet you all. I will be working in Japan and hope I could get some advice from you.

I'm applying a fellowship to do a postdoc research position in Japan sponsored by the Japanese government, and I have the choice of three places: Tokyo, Kyoto and Osaka. Monthly net income is 364,000 yen (no tax deduction) with a one-time payment of 200,000 yen as settling-in allowance. Insurance is covered, and there are 30 days of annual leave.

My questions are:
1. How much should I allocate for rent in Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka? I'm 29yo single man, so a small low-end room will do. I'll will be working in Tokyo, Kyoto or Osaka Uni, so please tell about rent in those areas.

2. How much should I allocate for food per month? I'm non Muslim. I could cook myself if that is the cheapest means.

3. Transportation fees per month?

4. Monthly net income of  364,000 yen, is it attractive? 

I have no knowledge about Japan. I don't know Japanese, but Japanese language is not a requirement in my research.

Thanks!
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I've posted my average monthly budget on this thread before here - link

1. Rental per person based on 1LDK (as Musha mentioned) will range between 70-120k. The thing is that this really depends on the location where your apartment/mansion is. So, if you plan to stay central Tokyo area; be prepared to fork out more but if you stay slightly on the edge of Tokyo then it'll get cheaper but this means you gotta travel a bit further to get into Tokyo.

Having said this, it really depends on you cause since you'll be paying your own transportation fees; you'll need to figure out if it's worth staying further away and traveling everyday plus dealing with the train crowds in the morning. Also, you'll need to budget in the first time payment for your place (which can include a down-payment of 2 months worth of fees - sucks I know).

2. My food budget per day is about 1500JPY but I do tend to spend a bit more on weekends. This budget for me is comfortable enough to eat out and cook occasionally at home.

3. Transportation fees will vary depends on how much you have to travel but there's also those monthly pass that you can buy to save a bit.

4. I think it's pretty attractive considering that it's nett income. For me, I gotta pay like the income tax, then the city tax, national health insurance cost, and the pension fund (like EPF but this one can get back lump sum when I decided to leave for good) so that kinda takes a chunk out of my monthly income already. cry.gif but luckily after all that, I still can have some savings monthly so it's still not too bad.

5. I've been here for 2 and a half years; my Japanese still sucks like hell. So, it's okay to get by the daily life without much knowledge of the language but then I'm lucky enough to work in an environment that uses English on a daily basis plus colleagues that are very helpful.

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post Oct 3 2009, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Oct 3 2009, 06:34 PM)
Anything interesting in Kyoto for someone looking for culture and stuff?
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Ermmm ... Kyoto is like heaven for Japanese culture and stuffs. So many temples, shrines, Unesco World Heritage sites and Geishas/Maikos. Very tourist friendly city as well.


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QUOTE(necrox77 @ Oct 3 2009, 05:23 PM)
You forgot to include gas and TV bills.. Is anyone here pay the NHK 6 month bills? lol.

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Just tell them you got no TV at home... LOL ... that's what I do. tongue.gif

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post Oct 4 2009, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(tatsuyachiba @ Oct 4 2009, 12:28 AM)
Interesting. I've always been interested in tax and health insurance in Japan. I've been thinking about spending more time in Japan - possibly a couple months out of a year - when retirement comes (still a long way). n

How many of the posters here think they will be Japan long term (define long term?) and the whys and why nots of living and working in Japan? I think this is possibly an interesting discussion.
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I think retiring to a nice cosy part of Japan is really nice. Not Tokyo though (too much hustle bustle of a big city). Then just relax and enjoy the 4 seasons and perhaps summer go back to Malaysia (since no diff in weather or possibly hotter here) laugh.gif

As for the 'long term' question; I'm still on the fence.
Currently, there are no terms of the duration for me to stay with my company so I guess as long as I don't get fired; I'll be able to keep my job. For me, The pros of working in Japan is of course the money (stronger yen; able to save more) and the unique culture and experience this country offers. Plus, I'm a techie and there are only a handful of countries that are so technologically advanced as Japan and it's willingness to channel funds into R&D. The cons is that there's some office cultures and practices that kinda 'irks' me a little. Not to go into great details; but let's just say that there's always a limit as how much you can contribute and get because of such factors.

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6. TV bill: 0 (I would rather watch cinema and youtube)

One thing for sure, Internet here is fast enough to cater to your online streaming needs but then cinema is a different question.
Some movies are released slower than the rest of the world because they gotta dubbed it to Japanese first (especially for animation/movies cater to younger crowd). Tickets are approx 1,800JPY each... so I wouldn't really call them cheap.


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QUOTE(wadvert @ Oct 4 2009, 10:39 AM)
hey, guys. i want to view this site but to no avail. know how to ?

http://gyao.yahoo.co.jp/p/00501/v06086/21/s/
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LOL ... it's some TV program about how to prevent kids bento contents from spilling all over the place.

I got a prompt about Microsoft Silverlight and some protected contents prompt before the vid starts playing.
I'm guessing you're not accessing this from Japan? Perhaps it's limited to users by geographical locations eg Hulu services.

You might want to try and connect using a proxy in Japan and see if it allows you to view it?
http://nntime.com/proxy-country/Japan-01.htm

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post Oct 4 2009, 11:26 AM

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Ahh... so, you've tried the proxy and it still didn't work. Hmmm... there's like more than 100 episodes of this series man sweat.gif If it's just 1 or 2 ep... I might still be able to help out.
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QUOTE(aichiban @ Oct 4 2009, 09:16 PM)
aloha. Reporting from kyoto. Just now passed by some red light district in osaka. The bar girls r quite 'aggresive' in getting customers. Dem dem dem cun sial!!!11!1oneone! But my mum was tagging along. Arghhhh


Added on October 4, 2009, 9:23 pmps. Quick reply me where 2 find one red light district near kyoto jr station?
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LOL ... I don't know anywhere near Kyoto station cause the only place I know is Potoncho but it's near Shijō Kawaramachi area.


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QUOTE(tatsuyachiba @ Oct 4 2009, 12:41 PM)
Thanks for the insights. Several years ago, I was asked if I would consider relocating to Tokyo. As it was, I was already spending a significant time in Tokyo. I looked at the numbers, the work culture, and the challenge of adapting to a foreign environment and in the end, I turned the offer down. One reason was financial: I would've taken a hit in post-tax terms after factoring in costs of international school for my kids (package included partial tuition but I was taxed on it). There were a myriad of other financial factors as well: I didn't want to contribute to a pension scheme that had no guarantees of solvency when I retired, higher costs of living, getting less in housing value for $ spent. I did like the national health insurance system - costs were much lower, and coverage much wider. However, the Japanese health system means you've got to get used to waiting an hour for a doctor.

Office culture took getting used to but, other than socially, I would've not been affected by the idiosyncrasies: after all, I would not have reported directly to the Japan office. But the differences were there: the Japanese seem to spend a lot of time at the office but spin cycles in process and minutiae: the productivity in the end was the same. The other differences were trivial: slippers in the office, desks arranged like classrooms with the bucho in the front, whiteboards tracking your time and movements. Some were funny: I swear there are guys who spend their entire day in the smoking room.

The main reason, perhaps, why I did not go was cultural. To me, living and visiting Japan (even for a frequent visitor like me) were entirely 2 different things. The Japanese, like the Germans, are too pre-occupied with process and Japan brings red-tape to a new level. The end-effect is simply tiring. Visitors don't see this, but rather, the product of this: things are efficient and things work in Japan. Japan is a good place to visit because of its past (and even present) cultural homogeneity: you are in Asia, you know you're in Asia but yet, things look and feel different. But that also works against us: we are different and more importantly, seen as different, than the Japanese. Japanese prize conformity but we stick out.

Now retirement is a different thing. I remain a visitor. I don't have to care if I am an outsider because I am. I like the vibrancy of Tokyo. As you say, shuttling between Malaysia and Japan in between seasons would be nice.
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Yeah, the pension fund is something that even the Japanese do not like. Unlike our EPF where we can get lump sum back when we retire; for them it just converts to monthly payment when they reach the age of 60 and continue for the rest of their life. BUT if they "suey suey" like not so long life; then all the money they paid during their working life is just gone. So, it's really not worth it at all for them. :S Luckily for me, when I leave I can get back lump sum so it's still not bad.

I do share the same opinion as you in their National Health Insurance scheme. I like the fact that it'll cover any illness and even have to cover it if it's known before you sign up. That is something NOT possible with private insurance firms. While the insurance do not cover 100% of the medical fees; it's still a significant amount of savings when we only need to pay 30% of the bill. I've learnt that unless it's emergency; if you make appointment prior to your visit - then there's no need for the waiting and things gets done pretty quickly and efficiently.

I think musha is well acquainted with the Japanese working culture judging from his response. tongue.gif One thing I do agree is that the spin cycles and the long process in decisions making is like part and parcel of their culture. Like at one time Google Translate used to translate "お疲れ様でした" into "It is the tired way" ... I laughed at this translation but then I think it's quite true at the same time. It's always the tired way and not the easy way. Fortunately/Unfortunately, it now translates to like "Cheers for good work" or "Thank you for the good work".

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post Oct 5 2009, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(heterosapiens @ Oct 5 2009, 04:23 AM)
That is so true. We had our umbrellas stolen right in front of our eyes, and we are pretty sure it wasn`t the case of a mistake.

Interestingly, I had the same discussion with couple of friends who are studying/working here during my trip. For me, I would prefer to continue to be a visitor/tourist of their amazing culture/society instead of trying to be part of it. Simply put, I believe the view would be nicer through a window.

Anyway, this is my last day in Japan, will be back to Malaysia by 8pm GMT+8. Currently at GeraGera Comic & Internet Cafe in Shinjuku. I`ll try to make my trip summary within this month, as tonnes of works waiting for me back in Malaysia.
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It's a pity that I can't meet up with you guys in Malaychan on Saturday evening. blush.gif
Hope you've had a great time here in Japan and have a safe flight back. Looking forward to see your trip summary. smile.gif

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QUOTE(yoko @ Oct 6 2009, 09:42 AM)
Yay, my finals done, visa approved, now preparing to fly only ^^
My question is, I am going for 1 month trip to japan backpacking, is credit card more important than cash in japan? how much cash in RM should i bring?

Will visit from osaka then tokyo till hokkaido if possible then back to osaka to fly back to M'sia
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Congratulations! rclxms.gif

Anyway, I would advice you to change your money in Malaysia and bring Yen instead because
1. RM is not really a widely acceptable cash.
2. There's not much money changer around and imagine the hassle if you run out of cash and need to find a money changer.
3. The rates will almost certainly be lower than what you'll get in Malaysia so it's not worth it (and worse still as now yen is strong).

So, bring along your credit card (as it's widely accepted here in almost all stores) and have Japanese Yen with you. I wouldn't really bother about bringing a lot of RM with me cause of the reason I mentioned above.
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QUOTE(yoko @ Oct 6 2009, 04:09 PM)
I dont seems to get wats my budget is after reading the thread haha, cuz i m going from osaka to north, the budget should be different.
Anyway i m bringing RM10k limit CC and Rm4k cash in yen, is it enough for the 1 month?
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Quick question before I give my opinion - your RM4k cash (approx 100,000 JPY based on current exchange rate); what do you plan to cover based on this? I'm guessing that you'll be paying for the larger items such as accommodation and shinkansen/air ticket by credit card. Is that correct?


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