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TSam_eniey
post Jun 11 2009, 06:58 PM

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@Andicom

First of all, if you want to open a laundry outlet, do you plan to commit 100% of your time and energy on it or just let someone else take care of it while you sitting and sleeping at home and do nothing?

Mind my question please because you play an important role.
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post Jun 11 2009, 08:40 PM

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@Andicom

OK, starting with RM30k means you don't have the dry cleaning machine. The dry cleaning machine actuallly generates more than 50% of all your income. But to be safe, start small.

Yes I spent 7 months looking for a good location at first.

The rest of my story, you can check at http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/557066

The thread might have all your answers because I can't type the same answer over and over again.
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post Jul 13 2010, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Y.K. @ Jul 26 2009, 11:23 AM)
thanks TS for your sincere sharing smile.gif

May i know what is your customer group? are they students/foreigner/single working person/family? can TS composite your customer groups in ratio? (like single worker/student/family : 2/1/7)

thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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Very late reply.... biggrin.gif

Here's the answer : I prefer those family with stable income as they wear expensive coats, suits, jackets and they will send them for dry cleaning. Dry cleaning is the income generator for laundry business. Not singles or students. Students and singles are those who sends very light clothing for normal washing and it need a lot of hard work and less pay.
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post Jul 13 2010, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(edyek @ Jul 13 2010, 08:41 PM)
Bro, its been a year.  sweat.gif
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Haha, I just realized that I have a thread regarding the business. haha ! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 19 2010, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(whatsayyou @ Jul 18 2010, 12:12 PM)
the ironing we have to do ourselves right?
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yes of course. who else is going to do it ?
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post Sep 24 2010, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 24 2010, 01:00 PM)
When I was a working bachelor in KL, I sent every thing including underwear and sock. They included them together with all my small items plus t-shirts and charge by weight. They wash these all together but iron the t-shirts only for extra charge.
Is this how they do it to prevent mix up with other clients? am_eniey? or any other sifu?
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In my shop, I never mix clothes unless the customer send only 1-2 pieces which easily detected when sorting out. The keypoint is not to mix.


Added on September 24, 2010, 2:17 pm
QUOTE(relaxtoday @ Sep 24 2010, 12:57 PM)
I was wondering... what if the clothes are TOO DIRTY...
for example... it has sh1t stain or smell like rotten corpse....
how do we normally overcome it?

is there cases so extreme that we reject customer's clothes?
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Laundry operator has the rights to reject.


Added on September 24, 2010, 2:20 pm
QUOTE(beast_doadore @ Sep 24 2010, 12:42 PM)
I have a stupid to ask?
is that any customers to bring their underwear and sock to wash in your dobi?
if yes, is it you mixed all the socks, underwear and clothes to wash together?
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Yes, operators have no choice but to mix them up. Operators can't seperate them as it's not cost effective unless the customer pays twice the price and orders the operator to wash them seperately. For example RM2/kg, if the customer sends 3kg which should be RM6, how can we wash them twice as the cost per cycle is already about RM6. That's the reason certain operator do not accept undergarments.

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post Sep 24 2010, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 24 2010, 02:41 PM)
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Maybe that is why irregardless of me sent in less than 5kg I'm always charge the 5kg rate.
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Exactly, but minimum 5kg is already too expensive. Should be around 2.5kg-3kg.
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post Oct 4 2010, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(RickOoi @ Sep 27 2010, 04:08 PM)
Hi everyone, especially am_eniey,

I have a few questions also:

1) How do you determine whether a location is suitable for laundry shop? For example, in my area, there are at least 6-7 laundry shops operating already, and they seems to be there like forever. With 3 new condo and office projects to be completed in 2012/3, I do see potential, but how do you gauge whether there will be enough customers to sustain in the long run? Where do you find this kind of data?

2) The government subsidies of fuel price will be less in 2011, obviously this will increase everything especially utilities and gas. How much is your current utilities and gas bill per month? Are all your machines working at full capacity, meaning minimum 12 hours a day?

3) The shop lot at the flat around my area is paying monthly rental of RM1,800 - RM2,000 for about 1,200 sqft. With 2 or 3 months deposits, how does one ensure survival with such tight cash flow at start up? Does a small scale laundry shop need such a big space? What is the minimum space required? Will co-tenant work out?

Thank you.


Added on September 28, 2010, 11:10 amAnother question:

4) Does anyone know if there is such a thing as Hire Purchase Laundry Machines in Malaysia? I am thinking it will be cheaper (in the long run) to hire purchase the machine instead of forking out cash to buy them. Although the interests are built in the hire purchase.
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1. Your location must have a big potential for all businesses but better stay away from most old timer in business.

2. The increase of utilities is not that big actually. There's nothing to be that worried about for now. The bills for electricity/water/telephone/internet/gas should be around RM1000 depending on how brilliant you construct/assemble the wiring system.

3. That's why I always say to prepare extra 50% out of the initial capital. How do you define small scale? However the space needed should be big anough to store curtains/carpets/toto/comforters/clothes that customers do not take or forget to take sometimes reaching many years. What is co-tenant?

4. Actually hire purchase brings more bad than good. They will ask you to pay even though you business is yet to grow just like car/house loan. Same procedure with interest.

I suggest you prepare cash with extras as backup, if you are not prepared financially and thinking of starting with loan or hire purchase, you better put the plan to a halt for the time being.


Added on October 4, 2010, 10:08 am
QUOTE(relaxtoday @ Oct 4 2010, 09:37 AM)
Hi.
I would like to know more about contract business (washing for cafe, massage centre, hotel etc.)

How is the process actually?
Is it a legal "contract" thing or just a normal transaction counted in kg/RM?
Do we need to issue any sort of document? How will the document looks like.

Newbie... really curious here. smile.gif
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Contract always sounds good but there are so much evil lies within. For a small scale laundry like what you are planning to operate, taking laundry for small cafe and massage centre is like walk in customer with COD method of payment. But not for big restaurant or even a small hotels as they need their laundry as cheapest, fastest and cleanest as possible. As they send in big quantity ( mostly in big 20 wheeler container) that payment is quite hefty but the WORK is like hell. You will also need extra industrial type ironing system that is called flatwok ironer that will cost you a bomb. Most operators who do this contract cleaning, they start at a small scale ordinary laundry because this is the period of learning. Might take years of experience to get the most knowledge.

The pricing for hotels should be 30sen per towel and 60sen for queen size bed sheet. You need many types of chemical to eradicate the dirt within hours. Furthermore you need your own big van or truck to do pickup and delivery to the hotels.

Most operators who do hotels, they apply cronism because they know somebody from the inside, but the best thing is getting contract from your own customer. When you do their clothes neatly, they will recommend you laundry to their bosses, God knows who they are and what their position are, we don't. If you are lucky, your customer might probably be the hotel owner. Just like one of my customer drool.gif drool.gif

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post Oct 22 2010, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(edyek @ Oct 21 2010, 04:47 PM)
This is laundry thread. @am_eniey will kick my arse.

It gives me high turn over and good margin, which gives me lesser problems when I'm using banks money to do something.
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haha, no problem. If it's regarding laundry business, everybody is free to speak out.
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post Apr 28 2011, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Humorboy @ Apr 28 2011, 01:40 AM)
how much do u earn on the first month? or goes into red? i'm planning to venture into this business too for about 50k initial capital... any advise how to spend the 50k?
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more than enough to start the business
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post Apr 29 2011, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(RazorVista @ Apr 25 2011, 10:12 PM)
know any dobi who can wash branded stuff such as coach bag, lv and etc?
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look for professional dry cleaners !
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post May 30 2011, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(azliayob @ May 30 2011, 11:21 AM)
am_eniey,

Currently, i am sourcing for used coin operated washing machine.

But, i search and explore website there are no source regarding my items.

My future business will be laundry service for students in hostel...

hope you can help me... thanks
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kindly contact
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