Mar 29 2009, 09:22 PM, updated 16y ago
But most of the time using PL20 for my jogging and workup cos of it's better isolation and wearing comfort than PL30 
PL30 and PL20 tonal wise ... sound quality wise is almost the same with PL30 offer slightly airier and wider soundstage presentation. While PL11 offer me some bass kick when I needed some drive during my jogging
Between these 3 IEM, PL11's after burn in improvement kinda the most, I usually experience these kind of positive reward with bass oriented IEM IMHO SoundMAGIC kinda provide the best bang for buck value and decent sound quality under RM100
Experience it yourself ...What about other says about SoundMAGIC?
REVIEWS:
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ClieOS - headfi's famous IEM review writer. Comments on PL20 - SOURCE
Variation: N/A
Transducer: Single 9mm Dynamic
Spec: 12Ω (@1kHz) | 20Hz~ 22kHz | 94dB SPL
Cord Style: Ч-cord, 1.20m.
Mini Jack Style: {┃} style, light build.
Eartips Used: Bi-flange
Physical Properties:
┣ Packaging: ★★★☆
┣ Accessories: ★★★☆
┣ Build Quality: ★★★
┣ Isolation: ★★★
┣ Microphonics: ★★★★
┣ Comfort: ★★★★★
┗ Quick Sum: Unlike its bigger brother PL30, PL20 comes in a more inconspicuous package. Most of the accessories in the PL30 are in here as well,
but there is no hard case. Instead you get a soft pouch. Build quality is typical of SoundMAGIC - decent but care will be needed to last.
PL20's isolation is better than PL30, which is no surprising since PL20's design is more conventional.
What is unexpected is how the very little microphonics the cable has.
Sound Quality:
┣ Treble: ★★★
┣ Mid: ★★★
┣ Bass: ★★☆
┣ Soundstage: ▆ ▄ ▂ ▂ ▂ ▄ ▆ [Good / Average]
┣ ABF: [Low]
┣ Overall SQ: [ 2.4 / 5]
┗ Quick Sum: The overall sound signature is balanced with a little bit of warmness, good on treble and mid but bass light. Not as airy / spacious as PL30's presentation
but acceptable soundstage.
Overall Value: [ 4.3 / 5] - US$13~18 (price depends on dealer)
Final Remark: PL20 is by all means not a bad IEM for its price. It is a little step down on SQ in comparison to PL30. However, its (still) decent SQ,
cheaper price and better fit / isolation make it a good inexpensive back up. For those who wish to know, PL20 also pair quite well with FiiO E3 but
there is the suggestion of very faint hiss when silence.
Variation: N/A
Transducer: Single 9mm Dynamic
Spec: 12Ω (@1kHz) | 20Hz~ 22kHz | 94dB SPL
Cord Style: Ч-cord, 1.20m.
Mini Jack Style: {┃} style, light build.
Eartips Used: Bi-flange
Physical Properties:
┣ Packaging: ★★★☆
┣ Accessories: ★★★☆
┣ Build Quality: ★★★
┣ Isolation: ★★★
┣ Microphonics: ★★★★
┣ Comfort: ★★★★★
┗ Quick Sum: Unlike its bigger brother PL30, PL20 comes in a more inconspicuous package. Most of the accessories in the PL30 are in here as well,
but there is no hard case. Instead you get a soft pouch. Build quality is typical of SoundMAGIC - decent but care will be needed to last.
PL20's isolation is better than PL30, which is no surprising since PL20's design is more conventional.
What is unexpected is how the very little microphonics the cable has.
Sound Quality:
┣ Treble: ★★★
┣ Mid: ★★★
┣ Bass: ★★☆
┣ Soundstage: ▆ ▄ ▂ ▂ ▂ ▄ ▆ [Good / Average]
┣ ABF: [Low]
┣ Overall SQ: [ 2.4 / 5]
┗ Quick Sum: The overall sound signature is balanced with a little bit of warmness, good on treble and mid but bass light. Not as airy / spacious as PL30's presentation
but acceptable soundstage.
Overall Value: [ 4.3 / 5] - US$13~18 (price depends on dealer)
Final Remark: PL20 is by all means not a bad IEM for its price. It is a little step down on SQ in comparison to PL30. However, its (still) decent SQ,
cheaper price and better fit / isolation make it a good inexpensive back up. For those who wish to know, PL20 also pair quite well with FiiO E3 but
there is the suggestion of very faint hiss when silence.
QUOTE(catsper @ Mar 27 2009, 02:11 PM)
Soundmagic PL20 received in good condition. Thank you.
First impression: comfortable to wear at default eartip size. Should I change to double flange? Any good reason to use double flange?
And one question, there are 2 very thick black color earpiece, what is the use?
Sounds good, up to my expectation, less bass than EP630 but much more detail and overall better listening experience. Burning now....
Thank you.
First impression: comfortable to wear at default eartip size. Should I change to double flange? Any good reason to use double flange?
And one question, there are 2 very thick black color earpiece, what is the use?
Sounds good, up to my expectation, less bass than EP630 but much more detail and overall better listening experience. Burning now....
Thank you.
QUOTE(catsper @ Mar 29 2009, 10:32 PM)
Agree that PL20 isolation is great. Hear almost nothing on heavy rainy days with only soft music playing. Burn in approaching 30 hours.
Details are good and vocals are sweeter now. Great product at affordable price. Never had an amp to try, but I appreciate what it is offering on its own.
Details are good and vocals are sweeter now. Great product at affordable price. Never had an amp to try, but I appreciate what it is offering on its own.
QUOTE(CLF @ Mar 30 2009, 01:13 PM)
first impression on PL20....
Sounded quite good freshly taken out from the box. This unit doesn't have the harsh treble-mid found on Bijou.
Clarity is there, very detailed on the instruments separation.
Bass, not disappointing as well.
am amazed how good this thing can be on 1st try.... might prefer this to Bijou.
will be burning in for a bit and then update again soon.
Sounded quite good freshly taken out from the box. This unit doesn't have the harsh treble-mid found on Bijou.
Clarity is there, very detailed on the instruments separation.
Bass, not disappointing as well.
am amazed how good this thing can be on 1st try.... might prefer this to Bijou.
will be burning in for a bit and then update again soon.
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Headfier - LTUCCI1924's comment on PL11 - SOURCE
BEFORE BURN IN
I got these today. BOO is all I can say. First they have the J cord. Boo
I put them into my clip and where is the super bass. Boo there is none at all.
They have no sound stage. Boo. Now I know these were only 10.00 but they are not worth even that.
I then put on my moded PL-30 and wow lots of bass with a large sound stage for only 10.00 more. They should call the PL-30 super bass.
LOL. Sorry folks but the PL-11 are loseres big time and I hope the other 10.00 PLs are way better but I have a feeling they are not.
You just cant go wrong with the PL-30 even for 50.00 but 29.00 at head direct.
One good thing though. they come with lots of tips and a clip with a cord winder and nice bag.
The tips have a bi-flange that is bigger than the ones that came with the PL-30 and I am useing them on my PL-30.
I am burning the PL-11 in for a good 50 hours for some strange reason. lol
AFTER BURN IN
OK Its been about 8 hours burn in and boy what a difference. The bass has come out by lots and there are very good highs and mids.
Now they have more bass than my PL-30 but I had to go through many different tips and found that the very small tips works best for me.
I normally use much bigger tips on my PL-30. I will give these 100 hour burn in if needed and will check on them every 8 hours.
This post has been edited by GodLuvSxS: Mar 30 2009, 01:37 PMBEFORE BURN IN
I got these today. BOO is all I can say. First they have the J cord. Boo
I put them into my clip and where is the super bass. Boo there is none at all.
They have no sound stage. Boo. Now I know these were only 10.00 but they are not worth even that.
I then put on my moded PL-30 and wow lots of bass with a large sound stage for only 10.00 more. They should call the PL-30 super bass.
LOL. Sorry folks but the PL-11 are loseres big time and I hope the other 10.00 PLs are way better but I have a feeling they are not.
You just cant go wrong with the PL-30 even for 50.00 but 29.00 at head direct.
One good thing though. they come with lots of tips and a clip with a cord winder and nice bag.
The tips have a bi-flange that is bigger than the ones that came with the PL-30 and I am useing them on my PL-30.
I am burning the PL-11 in for a good 50 hours for some strange reason. lol
AFTER BURN IN
OK Its been about 8 hours burn in and boy what a difference. The bass has come out by lots and there are very good highs and mids.
Now they have more bass than my PL-30 but I had to go through many different tips and found that the very small tips works best for me.
I normally use much bigger tips on my PL-30. I will give these 100 hour burn in if needed and will check on them every 8 hours.
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