QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jan 20 2013, 09:34 PM)
Yeah, it depends on who is asking. If they recognise it for what it is, then the Honours degree from Australia can be the stepping stone to a doctorate. You may not need any MSc/MRes/MPhil. Of course this is not just for Australian Honours degrees, in England not every doctoral student has done prior graduate study either.
On the other hand, they seem to think that a non-Honours Australian degree (3 years) is inferior to their 3 year Honours degrees. They consider it a proper degree but not at the same level (but I think not as a Pass or Ordinary degree, which is a completed degree but with quite bad marks). But if you do a proper subject, it isn't - it can actually be more work. In Australia the semesters are quite long, I think holidays are fewer/shorter than the British schools' breaks. But there are easier and less demanding degrees that (even though require the same credits/units in total) may be less work than a British Bachelor's with Hons.
This disadvantages Australian students looking at grad school overseas... as sometimes non-Honours graduates may be asked of higher grades. Which is quite unfair when there is every possibility that 3 year Australian degree was harder (or took the same effort) to do than the 3 year British Hons degree in an equivalent subject.
This was precisely what happened to me today. I have a degree from the uni who is TOP for Computer Science in Australia. I was told that I needed to do an Honours year to be able to qualify for a taught Masters. Basically, they were saying that my degree is worthless. This was a top UK uni who can be considered equivalent to my uni.On the other hand, they seem to think that a non-Honours Australian degree (3 years) is inferior to their 3 year Honours degrees. They consider it a proper degree but not at the same level (but I think not as a Pass or Ordinary degree, which is a completed degree but with quite bad marks). But if you do a proper subject, it isn't - it can actually be more work. In Australia the semesters are quite long, I think holidays are fewer/shorter than the British schools' breaks. But there are easier and less demanding degrees that (even though require the same credits/units in total) may be less work than a British Bachelor's with Hons.
This disadvantages Australian students looking at grad school overseas... as sometimes non-Honours graduates may be asked of higher grades. Which is quite unfair when there is every possibility that 3 year Australian degree was harder (or took the same effort) to do than the 3 year British Hons degree in an equivalent subject.
Like you said, if I did Honours, I would be continuing on to a PhD, not going backward to get a taught Masters! Obviously, I don't want to do Honours because I prefer taught causes. Plus the project/dissertation for Honours is larger than the taught Masters' project/dissertation.
They were happily offering me an automatic scholarship for first class Honours degree holders. And it was the same person who had a 180 degree change of heart after I talked to them in person.
This university shall remain unnamed for the meantime.
This post has been edited by thistle: Apr 3 2013, 12:36 AM
Apr 3 2013, 12:33 AM

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