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post Mar 28 2009, 12:18 AM

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I'm a final Eng student from MMU. I think I can give some view on faculty of engineering cyberjaya.

true facts:
-ppl cant see any intake ad, but if u flip through classified, u will c MMU is hiring lots of lecturers.. MMU is really short of lecturers. Currently this is my final sem, I'm taking 2 subjects +FYP. imagine the 2 subjects was taught by 2 new lecturer which i can say with no teaching experience.
- 1 president, 2 deans, lots of assoc dean and senior lecturers resigned and move out of MMU. I can say 80% move to UTAR.
- Clubs and association activities is getting lesser and lesser. the campus is so boring now. MMUians should know how "happening" is MMU last year compare to this year, activities like GDC, tournaments and pasar malam..


I know that UTAR is still new, but the one controlling it is MMU ex-faculty of engineering dean aka vice president. He and gauth are the man behind the success of MMU. Why MMU degree was recognised by BEM and industry because he have the know how to set the course outline relevant to current requirements.

So what i can see that, UTAR will be a better Uni. they have tons of money, good research facility and handful of good lecturers. Minus point is, Kampar is a bit ulu la, no entertainment.

if u wan more personal advice, do pm me. will try to help..
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post Mar 28 2009, 12:52 AM

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wow, looks like UTAR will be growing rapidly in next few years.


Added on March 28, 2009, 12:55 amJust wondering why does this happened suddenly ? why most of them moved to UTAR ? izzit because salary ? or politic in MMU ? lol

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Alex Chillax
post Mar 28 2009, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Mar 24 2009, 10:45 PM)
MMU looks messy.. why so many student fail one.. what are those lecturers doing..   mad.gif
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hahaha.. bro.. if the students are damn lazy and play online games n skipping class what to do?
the lecturers in mmu are great.. but not all.. mostly...
been studyin there for 3 years...
i had a friend failed every subject in a semester..
u know y?
games, chick, lazy, sleepyhead, lepak..
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hehe... sorry berceramah bro..
thats what i see in mmu..
so many rich students there dont appreciate their parents money..
haha! unsure.gif



hehehe.. btw choose MMU!
haha

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post Mar 28 2009, 03:35 AM

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QUOTE(Alex Chillax @ Mar 28 2009, 03:12 AM)
hahaha.. bro.. if the students are damn lazy and play online games n skipping class what to do?
the lecturers in mmu are great.. but not all.. mostly...
been studyin there for 3 years...
i had a friend failed every subject in a semester..
u know y?
games, chick, lazy, sleepyhead, lepak..
sweat.gif

hehe... sorry berceramah bro..
thats what i see in mmu..
so many rich students there dont appreciate their parents money..
haha! unsure.gif
hehehe.. btw choose MMU!
haha
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i see i see.. rupa-rupanya is students problem.. but at least dont fail ma.. doh.gif
really admire those rich students.. can do whatever they wish.. sad.gif
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post Mar 28 2009, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(jubz @ Mar 26 2009, 11:23 PM)
/off topic
What do you mean by "what are those lecturers doing..   mad.gif"? FYI they (lecturers) do help the students out; the problem resides at the students themselves. After all, it is the students themselves who answer/copy whatever they submit (exams/assignments/tutorials/reports/etc). What i'm trying to say is, the situation here might be a bit messy, but i don't think it's proper to say that it is caused by high failure rates.

/end of off topic

Also, sorry to be direct, but sexualpower sure is puttin' much effort into discouraging people to enroll into MMU.
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lecturers' role in education is not small~ they control the quality of education when they lecture, they control your grades when they bring in examination questions and they are involved in carry over marks~

anyway, do u have any idea how high we're talking about here? the statistics provided by SRC on Cyberjaya as well as a sample list of failures from Malacca (in .xls) file can be downloaded from the MMu thread~

only speaking the truth, i'm here to provide information~ if you think that there are anything encouraging about MMU, pls write it here so that it can benefit the applicants~ I hope that instead of just saying that A is not studying, therefore he should fail or B is writing bad things about MMu, he should die (I write based on facts and my opinions, which are as concise as I can go in helping)~ well, u could write something on-topic to help applicants decide~


Added on March 28, 2009, 11:01 am
QUOTE(saturn85 @ Mar 27 2009, 03:43 AM)
ohh.. rupa-rupanya is student problem.. but students now all also copy assignment one..  assignment really hard to do la..  rclxub.gif
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it always come back to lecturers~

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Doesn't matter where you study. As long as you are good at what you do, you will be able to impress your interviewers in the future.

Study in MMU doesn't mean you will go very far. Don't judge the institute, judge yourself.

BTW, if you are choosing between campuses, why not choose according to location and convenience? If you stay in Melaka, then MMU is a better choice. Likewise for UTAR campuses.
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QUOTE(matti @ Mar 27 2009, 09:23 PM)
haha
1st
    UTAR has cheaper fee? MMU fees is higher but you can get a loan what. MMU loan can up to 48K for engineering student!!
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2nd
       MMU don have good reputation this year but MMU is always better then UTAR so far. you know UTAR engineering not    
      recognized by BEM and MQA????????MMU doesn't have this kind of problem.
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     MMU or UTAR student can easy get the PTPTN . rclxms.gif

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     UTAR got Kampar so what? you know you are actually need a car or motor if you study in Kampar because student need to
     walk almost 1KM from entrance to the campus????? Kampar have less shoping centre thats mean Kampar are less 
     developing????Kampar food is really cheap and sedap if you don't mind to travel 1KM from school to food stalk.haha
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     MMU got many lenglui. This one i sure!!! rclxms.gif

   so...........................................................
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1st
loan need to repay, just reminding~

2nd
to your question, which i assume is a question as it isn't a fact and there are so many question marks at the back~ courses that are recognized or not depends on many factors, which are partially available at the MQA webby and answer is here -> http://www.utar.edu.my/subcontentPage1.jsp...tid=465&catid=3

3rd
UTAR was formed by MCA, I don't know the chances for getting PTPTN here as I have never studied there but MMu students can get PTPTN at a high %

4th
Cyberjaya MMu need car or motor as the campus is at least 500m away, the nearest faculty would be engineering, then followed by the business faculty~ any idea how it is in Cyberjaya? only 1 bus to connect u to the Putrajaya bus station~ Malacca campus, always can't find parking, got car also useless, need to park outside of the campus and then walk in~ no idea about Kampar but then again, how far do u need to travel from Cyberjaya to KL for shopping? food for thought, i think it's at least 15km to any proper civilization~ around 2km away from Malacca campus, u have Jusco and Malacca Mall, the new one~

5th
u sure? have u been to Kampar?~ any idea how big it is? I've been in MMu and had 1 gf during my first year but after that, can't even find a leng lui~


Added on March 28, 2009, 11:20 am
QUOTE(LilCroSs @ Mar 27 2009, 11:51 PM)
If u could afford the fees in mmu, it wud be better for u to choose mmu. Talking bout courses, as my opinion studying in utar, mmu wud have a better quality in everything. UTAR wasn't bad too, its campus in kampar, perak, realli have a better study environment, heaven for those student who don mind a place without entertaiment.
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quality... it's a big word.. i don't think after writing over 200 words can i come to any conclusion~ but i'd like to add that you should be your own judge on what quality means to you~ is it facilities? lecturers' teaching? examination questions? the things books don't teach u? the administration and policies? the list seems endless~ I'll be more than happy to help on the MMu side~

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Girls are not important when choosing universities...moreover, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. smile.gif

Kampar is a small town. The newest place you can go shopping, if i'm not mistaken, is Tesco. Other than that, there aren't many places you can go. As for food, you can always have chicken biscuit for snacks~ biggrin.gif I love it. Nearest area with better "lepak" places would be Ipoh. Or you can go Teluk Intan to see the Menara Condong Teluk Intan.
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Regarding the fluid mechanics I and fluid mechanics II these two subject are the hardest in bachelor of mechanical engineering, i was the graduation of this course from MMU few years ago, so i know well about the toughest of this subject, but at my time there, only 10 -20 % fail rate for this subject, i not sure how come the fail rate of my junior batch increase so much, or MMU try to increase the standard and mark follow by ISO ...


Added on March 28, 2009, 12:37 pmAnyway, that subject only for ME, but not for other engineering like EE, CE, Tele and other faculty course like IT, accounting and business .. if you not plan to take ME, that is nothing to worried about ...

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Mar 28 2009, 03:35 AM)
i see i see.. rupa-rupanya is students problem..  but at least dont fail ma..  doh.gif
really admire those rich students..  can do whatever they wish..  sad.gif
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haha i wish i have money like em too!
dang... drivin the latest cars to campus..
bmw, honda, toyota..
dang! students shud drive cars like in the transformers movie!
hahaha..
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transformer movie car pulak~
if like dis,not study adi..
is compete how rich among the student
and compete how many gf's they able to get at 1 time
haha
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QUOTE(RainJR @ Mar 28 2009, 03:48 PM)
transformer movie car pulak~
if like dis,not study adi..
is compete how rich among the student
and compete how many gf's they able to get at 1 time
haha
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drive BMW to school, how yeng is it you know.. brows.gif
all girls sure looks at you.. drool.gif
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QUOTE(Jie.IT @ Mar 27 2009, 11:56 PM)
how much the fee if i take foundation + degree ?? the course tat i choose is IT.........
i get more than 5 C in SPM...my english got C n math got A,,,,,,
but i hav no C in any science subject........
can i take foundation of course IT in MMU?
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As i know, without any credit for science subject, mmu will not accept ur request.
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haha..
come utar.. bcz i am UTARian here..

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QUOTE(sexualpower @ Mar 28 2009, 11:16 AM)


Added on March 28, 2009, 11:20 am

quality... it's a big word.. i don't think after writing over 200 words can i come to any conclusion~ but i'd like to add that you should be your own judge on what quality means to you~ is it facilities? lecturers' teaching? examination questions? the things books don't teach u? the administration and policies? the list seems endless~ I'll be more than happy to help on the MMu side~
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Quality tat i meant are lecturer's teaching, examination questions, some of the UTAR's lecturer were lazy teaching, n juz giving off tips for their students during finals, dont even care bout their student ability. Their students tend to rely on tips n become lazier ti study n juz hope for tips ==
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QUOTE(LilCroSs @ Mar 29 2009, 01:43 PM)
Quality tat i meant are lecturer's teaching, examination questions, some of the UTAR's lecturer were lazy teaching, n juz giving off tips for their students during finals, dont even care bout their student ability. Their students tend to rely on tips n become lazier ti study n juz hope for tips ==
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now uni is tends to like this..
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Mar 29 2009, 04:58 PM)
now uni is tends to like this..
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But according to my fren who's studying in mmu, their lecturer r hardworking enuff, good in teaching, everything r clear, unlike UTAR's lecturer, teach as to faster finish class, sometime students dun even clear wat thy were taught.
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QUOTE(LilCroSs @ Mar 29 2009, 05:00 PM)
But according to my fren who's studying in mmu, their lecturer r hardworking enuff, good in teaching, everything r clear, unlike UTAR's lecturer, teach as to faster finish class, sometime students dun even clear wat thy were taught.
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haha, but now students like those lecturers that are cincai cincai one.. no need to do so many things.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Mar 29 2009, 05:47 PM)
haha, but now students like those lecturers that are cincai cincai one.. no need to do so many things..   laugh.gif
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mmu got awesome lecturers!
hahaha.. give tips before midterms and exams...
so u can answer them easily during the finals!
wakkakakaa..
so thats y one of the reasons i like mmu lecturers..

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Added on March 29, 2009, 5:58 pm
QUOTE(RainJR @ Mar 28 2009, 03:48 PM)
transformer movie car pulak~
if like dis,not study adi..
is compete how rich among the student
and compete how many gf's they able to get at 1 time
haha
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hhahaha.. no ler...
i mean the old camaro..
hehehehe..
students shud drive old cars.. hehehe..
not that old la..
drivin luxury cars just show off how rich u are le...
hehehe..

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anyone know UTAR in kampar good or not??
facilities like sport complex,gym,swimming pool..
near with food court and supermarket ?

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