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 MMU vs UTAR, which one better

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chuakz
post May 11 2009, 07:19 AM

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any entertainment near utar pj? and how far is it from subang?
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post May 12 2009, 12:02 PM

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UTAR PJ near with Jaya One ^^
i think not very far..about half hour with car
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post May 12 2009, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(RainJR @ May 11 2009, 01:24 AM)
both recognised ^^
except certain courses..
MMU law <- not recognised
UTAR engineering <- not recognised
correct me if im wrong
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you can try to check it with the Malaysian Qualifications Agency
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post Jul 11 2009, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(Kal-el @ May 11 2009, 02:00 AM)
Then all those guys studying that particular course studying for nothing? Come on, common sense needed on this recognising thingy.
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now utar is all recognised le...
Even the eng courses is recognised by the overseas u


means u can go overseas one u r graduate.....to continue your master or phd
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post Jul 12 2009, 11:44 PM

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i saw some of you all use the high failure rate in fluid Mech (MMU) as reference. I m a fresh grad from Mech Eng course in MMU , and i can say that it is not because of the lack of lecturers in the subject, but fluid mechanic, fluid dynamic are the most difficult subject for ME in most of Mech eng students opinion. The lecturers for the specific subject is not bad... but sometimes these difficult subject just need extra extra hardwork lo.

In my opinion, MMU had proper facilities and some (i mean SOME only) lecturers are good and dedicated, for subjects who dont have these gd lecturers , we have to do more self study lo ... thats uni life anyway .

But because of the recent exodus of deans n lecturers, i think most is FOE . in FET malaca, every now n then we have a few went off la.. but overall in future dunno la. MMU used to have high standing in the employer's list sometime ago. But i m not sure about now, (had nt been in touch with current news)

The exodus from MMU to UM and UTAR, is depleting the resources of MMU, wonder why it happen... I m taking Master course in MMU now .


Added on July 12, 2009, 11:54 pm
i saw some of you all use the high failure rate in fluid Mech (MMU) as reference. I m a fresh grad from Mech Eng course in MMU , and i can say that it is not because of the lack of lecturers in the subject, but fluid mechanic, fluid dynamic are the most difficult subject for ME in most of Mech eng students opinion. The lecturers for the specific subject is not bad... but sometimes these difficult subject just need extra extra hardwork lo.

In my opinion, MMU had proper facilities and some (i mean SOME only) lecturers are good and dedicated, for subjects who dont have these gd lecturers , we have to do more self study lo ... thats uni life anyway . I have known ppol who kept failing because they didnt want to help themselves( only gf, clubbing), and some fare well even if the lecturer isnt good. It all really depend on ourselves, our effort.

But because of the recent exodus of deans n lecturers, i think most is FOE . in FET malaca, every now n then we have a few went off la.. but overall in future dunno la. MMU used to have high standing in the employer's list sometime ago. But i m not sure about now, (had nt been in touch with current news)

The exodus from MMU to UM and UTAR, is depleting the resources of MMU, wonder why it happen... I m taking Master course in MMU now .

MMU currently is a lil messy, its best to let the dust settle first. in the meantime Uniten might be a gd choice. haha my own opinion only la!

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post Oct 12 2009, 08:30 AM

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I've just completed my foundation in engineering and spent another few weeks in degree and i couldnt take it anymore.. MMU sucks. and i can tell you one thing!
AFTER THEY CHANGE PRESIDENT, EVERYTHING WENT DOWN.. IT WAS AS IF MMU IS BEING STRUCK BY TSUNAMI...
well, i agree that in uni life, most of it depend on our effort but at least a bit of guidance from lecturers right.. most lecturers just go in and read out what is on the online notes and out they go.. its better that we dont need to attend class..
and english wise, haha.. dont be surprised.. some of them dont know how to speak proper english.. you'll be surprised how bad MMU is now..

-FOE student.


Added on October 12, 2009, 8:31 amgo for UTAR as its reputation is going up.. and trust me, there are loads of smart student there..

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post Oct 12 2009, 11:07 PM

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Long gone the good old MMU during the late 90's and early 2000's.. Ever since Prof G, Prof C and other very good, highly recognized academic staff left, the reputation just keep going down..
I was a student there in the early 2000's

My friend is a lecturer with IT faculty currently.. Student population declined compared to the good old days while students from Africa and Middle East keep on increasing.. It seems the number of local Malaysian students are dropping..

I went back to pay a visit and to my horror, the building is badly maintained.. worst than public U despite paying 3 to 4 times higher for tuition fee.. Carpark is quite empty, unlike those days that its always full, until cars have to illegally park by roadsides.. that shows student popultaion has declined..

TM is back into picture, leeching profit from MMU.. while MMU trying to stay profitable, tuition fee is increased while lecturer's pay are pathetically low..

My sister just graduated this year.. she told me Tom Dxck and Harry of all sort of qualification also can get enrolled.. Unlike those days, it is so hard to get enroll into MMU.. I got a string of A's for SPM but after compare with my classmates, my qualification is the poorers among my class tongue.gif

UTAR is a non-profit, and subsidised by other organizations, thus tuition fee is less, and able to attact better academic staff.. Prof C is the new President there after leaving from MMU FOE..

Not many ppl shouting hoo haa about MMU nowadays anymore..
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Non profit, not too accurate for UTAR, but certainly MMU has fallen compare to the previous MMU.
Fees no longer match the education it provide already.
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post Nov 21 2009, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Jacqueline90 @ Oct 12 2009, 08:30 AM)
go for UTAR as its reputation is going up.. and trust me, there are loads of smart student there..
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What do you have to say as a justification for the load of smart students there? Smart student are aplenty everywhere and it is definitely not applicable to UTAR as a whole.

Regards, Joey

This post has been edited by Joey Christensen: Nov 21 2009, 05:09 PM
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post Nov 21 2009, 05:13 PM

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MMu,itzit good place to study IT?
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QUOTE(smartpoint @ Nov 21 2009, 05:13 PM)
MMu,itzit good place to study IT?
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People only consider MMU or APIIT to study IT courses in Malaysia. Here at MMU, we have 7 majors for IT degree.
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post Nov 21 2009, 06:40 PM

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From all the arguments I've seen, I would say UTAR is improving a lot since your Prof C is on the helm. Complaints are processed faster, results out earlier..... etc.

Oh, btw I'm a UTAR grad. So I know what I'm saying.

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QUOTE(Enferno @ Mar 28 2009, 12:18 AM)
I'm a final Eng student from MMU. I think I can give some view on faculty of engineering cyberjaya.

true facts:
-ppl cant see any intake ad, but if u flip through classified, u will c MMU is hiring lots of lecturers.. MMU is really short of lecturers. Currently this is my final sem, I'm taking 2 subjects +FYP. imagine the 2 subjects was taught by 2 new lecturer which i can say with no teaching experience.
- 1 president, 2 deans, lots of assoc dean and senior lecturers resigned and move out of MMU. I can say 80% move to UTAR.
- Clubs and association activities is getting lesser and lesser. the campus is so boring now. MMUians should know how "happening" is MMU last year compare to this year, activities like GDC, tournaments and pasar malam..
I know that UTAR is still new, but the one controlling it is MMU ex-faculty of engineering dean aka vice president. He and gauth are the man behind the success of MMU. Why MMU degree was recognised by BEM and industry because he have the know how to set the course outline relevant to current requirements.

So what i can see that, UTAR will be a better Uni. they have tons of money, good research facility and handful of good lecturers. Minus point is, Kampar is a bit ulu la, no entertainment.

if u wan more personal advice, do pm me. will try to help..
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post Apr 6 2010, 07:01 PM

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hi guys, which Uni is recommended for IT software engineering?? Utar or MMU? MMU reputation is getting so bad now? but ppl say Apiit and MMU is preferred for IT. What about UTAR?
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post Apr 7 2010, 06:39 PM

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Hi guys.. which uni is recommended for marketing then between UTAR and MMU???
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post Apr 9 2010, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(matti @ Mar 26 2009, 10:05 PM)
MMU is better
MMU's course recognized by LAN and BEM
MMU's cost is cheaper
MMU have good reputation
MMU student can get PTPTN
MMU have good environment(ayer hitam,malacca)
MMU got many lenglui
MMU thumbup.gif
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Please tell me you joking? rclxub.gif after the new policy changes i feel mmu wasnt as good as it used 2 b i used 2 be proud saying i studied in mmu but now all the policy changes annoying me every few months some new rule poping out haihz tension ony .uniten is catching up fast and i heard that unitens degree is recognized in us and uk and mmu hehee no need 2 say lor tongue.gif
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QUOTE(RainJR @ Apr 3 2009, 11:13 PM)

Added on April 4, 2009, 5:22 pmanyone know wad is the rules of UTAR ? and dress code?
cuz when i get the letter and the info for freshmen..it says i can finds it at UTAR website..
but i din found anything..anyone help?
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Hi,

Orientation info
http://www.utar.edu.my/contentPage1.jsp?ca...&contentid=1842

FAQ
http://www.utar.edu.my/contentPage1.jsp?co...tid=752&catid=2

Rules & Regulations
http://www.utar.edu.my/subcontentPage1.jsp...tid=484&catid=2
http://www.utar.edu.my/subcontentPage1.jsp...tid=485&catid=2
http://www.utar.edu.my/subcontentPage1.jsp...tid=486&catid=2

Are you a Foundation freshmen? If yes, visit CFS website for more info (PJ - http://www.utar.edu.my/cfs/, Perak http://www.utar.edu.my/cfskampar/).

For dress code, just wear something that shows respect to yourself and to others. Though rights and wrongs of dress code are subjective, yet much left ignored by youth nowadays. smile.gif


Added on April 9, 2010, 8:21 pmA kind note to those who thinks that entering a tertiary education institution is anything else than gaining knowledge, there will never be a best tertiary institution for you - other than a place that allows you do nothing else than self-indulgence.

Don't waste your parents' hard earn money.

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post May 25 2010, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ Apr 9 2010, 01:36 AM)
Please tell me you joking?  rclxub.gif  after the new policy changes i feel mmu wasnt as good as it used 2 b i used 2 be proud saying i studied in  mmu but now all the policy changes annoying me every few months some new rule poping out haihz tension ony .uniten is catching up fast and i heard that unitens degree is recognized in us and uk and mmu hehee no need 2 say lor tongue.gif
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heard and having the facts is different bro. And how can a uni be better without a change? According to Albert Einstein "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." So, if u never change, how can u be better? MMU is the only private uni to be listed in top 200 asean contries. Listed at 171. Remember that. and MMU's grads are still high in demand...
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QUOTE(gavinfernando @ May 25 2010, 12:49 AM)
heard and having the facts is different bro. And how can a uni be better without a change? According to Albert Einstein "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." So, if u never change, how can u be better? MMU is the only private uni to be listed in top 200 asean contries. Listed at 171. Remember that. and MMU's grads are still high in demand...
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dude .. which source stated MMU is at 171 ? can't seem to find it

the one i manage to find : http://www.topuniversities.com/university-...ankings/overall

MMU nowhere in sight leh sad.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(mikecrush @ Jun 29 2010, 12:27 PM)
dude .. which source stated MMU is at 171 ? can't seem to find it

the one i manage to find  : http://www.topuniversities.com/university-...ankings/overall

MMU nowhere in sight leh sad.gif rclxub.gif
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I believe the 171 position was in 2009; http://pulse.mmu.edu.my/index.php?sectid=1...sect=2&artid=63

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