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Dave91
post Apr 5 2009, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(KKtxyz @ Apr 5 2009, 01:07 AM)
how much is the tuition fee for mmu? mmu stand for malaysia multimedia uni rite? haha. just to confirm. planning to go for a degree in IT since u guys say that mmu is reputable in IT. haha.
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Is Multimedia University Lolz,
the fees for foundation in IT is 9.5k
and all the degree course in IT roughly 40k~41k
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post Apr 5 2009, 11:14 AM

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personal opinion.

i currently study Engineering in MMU

staff shortage is a problem that all the seniors students know and aware.

we can see many staff had left MMU because the change of policy that didn't suit the lecturer need. They change the time allocation for research 70% and teaching 30% to teaching 70% and research 30%. This means the lecturer previously had many time to do their own research but now they busy teaching....

Can you imagine four classes of students with well over hundred students in each class that only lecture by three lecturer... ratio of 1:100++

Before the president (one great guy)and dean of faculty of engineering (another great guy) left MMU two years ago if not mistaken, the ration use to be 1:20++ only.

that means previous two year, we would have different lecturer for each chapter or even two lecturer for some long chapter. Besides, during tutorial we might teach by other lectures that didn't even have slot to teach in the lecture class. That means man power is well beyond the need... this trend however cannot see in the younger batch already..

minimum required attendance drop to 50% from 75% to take exam...

minimum required MUET is now BAND 1 drop from BAND 3 for graduation......

think yourselves to come or not to....
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post Apr 5 2009, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(darkimp @ Apr 5 2009, 11:14 AM)
personal opinion.

i currently study Engineering in MMU

staff shortage is a problem that all the seniors students know and aware.

we can see many staff had left MMU because the change of policy that didn't suit the lecturer need. They change the time allocation for research 70% and teaching 30% to teaching 70% and research 30%. This means the lecturer previously had many time to do their own research but now they busy teaching....

Can you imagine four classes of students with well over hundred students in each class that only lecture by three lecturer... ratio of 1:100++

Before the president (one great guy)and dean of faculty of engineering (another great guy) left MMU two years ago if not mistaken, the ration use to be 1:20++ only.

that means previous two year, we would have different lecturer for each chapter or even two lecturer for some long chapter. Besides, during tutorial we might teach by other lectures that didn't even have slot to teach in the lecture class. That means man power is well beyond the need... this trend however cannot see in the younger batch already..

minimum required attendance drop to 50% from 75% to take exam...

minimum required MUET is now BAND 1 drop from BAND 3 for graduation......

think yourselves to come or not to....
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But how about the Faculty of Information Technology?? same?
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post Apr 5 2009, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Alex Chillax @ Mar 29 2009, 05:52 PM)
mmu got awesome lecturers!
hahaha.. give tips before midterms and exams...
so u can answer them easily during the finals!
wakkakakaa..
so thats y one of the reasons i like mmu lecturers..

How much tips did you get from the lecturers? RM5 RM 10? sweat.gif

frgywifoneyes
post Apr 5 2009, 04:49 PM

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i oso study mmu...
im in law..

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i think mmu OK.. but hv to be strong to go through the culture shock! hhahahah!~

mmu oso hv supplementary test.... smile.gif


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post Apr 5 2009, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(darkimp @ Apr 5 2009, 11:14 AM)
personal opinion.

i currently study Engineering in MMU

staff shortage is a problem that all the seniors students know and aware.

we can see many staff had left MMU because the change of policy that didn't suit the lecturer need. They change the time allocation for research 70% and teaching 30% to teaching 70% and research 30%. This means the lecturer previously had many time to do their own research but now they busy teaching....

Can you imagine four classes of students with well over hundred students in each class that only lecture by three lecturer... ratio of 1:100++

Before the president (one great guy)and dean of faculty of engineering (another great guy) left MMU two years ago if not mistaken, the ration use to be 1:20++ only.

that means previous two year, we would have different lecturer for each chapter or even two lecturer for some long chapter. Besides, during tutorial we might teach by other lectures that didn't even have slot to teach in the lecture class. That means man power is well beyond the need... this trend however cannot see in the younger batch already..

minimum required attendance drop to 50% from 75% to take exam...

minimum required MUET is now BAND 1 drop from BAND 3 for graduation......

think yourselves to come or not to....
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i agree with the shortage of staff~ any student who goes to the office will get a reply that they don't have enough academic staff aka lecturers, either it's office admin staff or the Dean of FET, Dr. Peter himself~ Dr. Peter will be at the Autoshow 2009 at MITC this weekend, go ahead and ask him yourself~ he mentioned that in the following years, Mechanical Engineering may need to be closed or have the intake stopped due to this matter~

staff leaving MMU includes our capable president, Prof. Dr. Ghauth Jasmon who is now in UM after a transition to a less-known college for a few months, Datuk Prof. Chuah Hean Teik, who was Dean of FET and then became Dean of FOE, and an Associate Dean, Dr. Lim, Mr. Huang Fa Jye all went to UTAR, a private NGO institution of higher learning~

i would like to add that International Business has over 200 students in 1 class~

with the policy change of the W model aka bell curve, i think it's critically terrible~

these are my opinions though~ if u like MMU by some reason, feel free to go~ but know the reason why u are spending money on it~ we always have the power of choice~


Added on April 5, 2009, 8:27 pm
QUOTE(KKtxyz @ Apr 5 2009, 01:07 AM)
how much is the tuition fee for mmu? mmu stand for malaysia multimedia uni rite? haha. just to confirm. planning to go for a degree in IT since u guys say that mmu is reputable in IT. haha.
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reputable for IT??????? r u kidding me? dude, is it the name of the university that got that idea to u?~ it is the Engineering students that won many awards~ I've yet to hear the IT side~

This post has been edited by sexualpower: Apr 5 2009, 08:27 PM
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post Apr 6 2009, 09:37 PM

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i just left mmu. I completed MMU foundation studies.
Now im moving to utar kampar. I see wads up there then.
haha... how it sounds..
and i wana know more bout utar... the accomodation is the most important thing for me. Is there any houses nearby to let? and does it have restrictions like mmu (ixora and ep) that guys cannot go to gurls block or something like that? hmm... i wonder how will be the life there...
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post Apr 7 2009, 09:19 AM

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im not sure whether there are any restriction there,but i know there is an agent for renting room especially UTAR and KTAR student at kampar.
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post Apr 7 2009, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(darkimp @ Apr 5 2009, 11:14 AM)
personal opinion.

i currently study Engineering in MMU

staff shortage is a problem that all the seniors students know and aware.

we can see many staff had left MMU because the change of policy that didn't suit the lecturer need. They change the time allocation for research 70% and teaching 30% to teaching 70% and research 30%. This means the lecturer previously had many time to do their own research but now they busy teaching....

Can you imagine four classes of students with well over hundred students in each class that only lecture by three lecturer... ratio of 1:100++

Before the president (one great guy)and dean of faculty of engineering (another great guy) left MMU two years ago if not mistaken, the ration use to be 1:20++ only.

that means previous two year, we would have different lecturer for each chapter or even two lecturer for some long chapter. Besides, during tutorial we might teach by other lectures that didn't even have slot to teach in the lecture class. That means man power is well beyond the need... this trend however cannot see in the younger batch already..

minimum required attendance drop to 50% from 75% to take exam...

minimum required MUET is now BAND 1 drop from BAND 3 for graduation......

think yourselves to come or not to....
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QUOTE(sexualpower @ Apr 5 2009, 08:22 PM)
i agree with the shortage of staff~ any student who goes to the office will get a reply that they don't have enough academic staff aka lecturers, either it's office admin staff or the Dean of FET, Dr. Peter himself~ Dr. Peter will be at the Autoshow 2009 at MITC this weekend, go ahead and ask him yourself~ he mentioned that in the following years, Mechanical Engineering may need to be closed or have the intake stopped due to this matter~

staff leaving MMU includes our capable president, Prof. Dr. Ghauth Jasmon who is now in UM after a transition to a less-known college for a few months, Datuk Prof. Chuah Hean Teik, who was Dean of FET and then became Dean of FOE, and an Associate Dean, Dr. Lim, Mr. Huang Fa Jye all went to UTAR, a private NGO institution of higher learning~

i would like to add that International Business has over 200 students in 1 class~

with the policy change of the W model aka bell curve, i think it's critically terrible~

these are my opinions though~ if u like MMU by some reason, feel free to go~ but know the reason why u are spending money on it~ we always have the power of choice~


Added on April 5, 2009, 8:27 pm

reputable for IT??????? r u kidding me? dude, is it the name of the university that got that idea to u?~ it is the Engineering students that won many awards~ I've yet to hear the IT side~
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So sexual power,

1) what do you think about the faculty of creative multimedia in MMU?

2) Does it have the same shortage of lecturer as in the engineering department?

3) Does it have any of problem that you mention previously in this thread?

if anyone wanna comment about it, be my guess.

This post has been edited by spitfire111: Apr 7 2009, 10:49 AM
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post Apr 7 2009, 10:58 AM

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Frankly, MMU is losing its reputation !!

On the other hand, UTAR is starting to earn its names !! (but, still have far way to go)



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post Apr 7 2009, 12:34 PM

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from my point of view even there's a shortage of staff,I dun think that the condition will be like no one teaching=.="
and i think for tertiary education,
10% is depend on teacher and 90% is depend on yourself
My relatives who is a lecturer in Utar oso said that=.=
and he compare the students from MMU with Utar
and MMU students can speak better english thn Utar Students.....
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post Apr 7 2009, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(spitfire111 @ Apr 7 2009, 10:39 AM)
So sexual power,

1) what do you think about the faculty of creative multimedia in MMU?

2) Does it have the same shortage of lecturer as in the engineering department?

3) Does it have any of problem that you mention previously in this thread?

if anyone wanna comment about it, be my guess.
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1) no idea~ all I know is that students at the creative multimedia have been winning awards for years~ lecturers in Cyber are younger than the ones in Malacca campus and the are involved in IT projects rather than engineering ones~ exposure in whatever research is always a plus point, that is one of the best things about going overseas~

2) no idea

3) yes, of course, the W model policy affects all~ as i've mentioned earlier, 3,800 students in Cyber failed at least one subject in the final examination of the 1st sem of academic year 0809~

QUOTE(Dave91 @ Apr 7 2009, 12:34 PM)
from my point of view even there's a shortage of staff,I dun think that the condition will be like no one teaching=.="
and i think for tertiary education,
10% is depend on teacher and 90% is depend on yourself
My relatives who is a lecturer in Utar oso said that=.=
and he compare the students from MMU with Utar
and MMU students can speak better english thn Utar Students.....
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if priority is towards language usage, try overseas~ in my humble opinion, i've never heard of shortage of staff from any other institutions~ in most people's mind, when u go to private institutions, u get better treatment as u pay more~ but know this, the government pays more in public universities than any other private institution~ just take a visit to any public uni and u'll see how gigantic their structures are~ go to their labs and easily every student get their own lab tools or machines~ go to a private uni and u'll be sharing the same tools or machines with 2 - 10 other students at once~ i've been to UM, UTM, UKM, Uniten, both MMU campuses, INTI Nilai, UCSI, Apiit~ by the way, there is a taman kijang in UTM where they have one or two kijang occupying the land so large it's the size of the Engineering faculty and Business faculty in MMU malacca~ UM got lake for kayak~ UKM need transport or else u'll need 1/2 a day to see it all~

how much do u need to pay per year at a public uni? -> RM3k
how much do u need to pay per year at a private uni? -> RM10k
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go for U tar... or K tar...
if u aren;t aming for engine...
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mmu accounting course good ar??
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QUOTE(sexualpower @ Apr 7 2009, 09:17 PM)
1) no idea~ all I know is that students at the creative multimedia have been winning awards for years~ lecturers in Cyber are younger than the ones in Malacca campus and the are involved in IT projects rather than engineering ones~ exposure in whatever research is always a plus point, that is one of the best things about going overseas~

2) no idea

3) yes, of course, the W model policy affects all~ as i've mentioned earlier, 3,800 students in Cyber failed at least one subject in the final examination of the 1st sem of academic year 0809~
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k, thanks for taking your time to answered my question.. smile.gif
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post May 10 2009, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(matti @ Mar 26 2009, 10:05 PM)
MMU is better
MMU's course recognized by LAN and BEM
MMU's cost is cheaper
MMU have good reputation
MMU student can get PTPTN
MMU have good environment(ayer hitam,malacca)
MMU got many lenglui
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1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th statement need to be re-check

MMU is better?? depends on your own...
MMU cost is cheaper?? i dont think so...
MMU have good reputation?? if good repu, y prof. datuk dr gauth jasmon move to UM? y dr lim a.k.a. associate dean FET melaka move to UTAR kampar?
MMU student can get PTPTN.. PTPTN interest very high de la.. borrow 60k u need pay back approx. 85k
MMU have good enviroment?? this statement i still hold it

y i say so? coz i m final year student from MMU melaka, Bachelor of Eng. Mechanical...
50% ppl failed Fluid Mechanics on Sem 1 08/09, yes it is true..
not only Fluid Mechanics, the total failed student increase almost 60-70% (roughly) from sem 3 07/08 to sem 1 08/09..
Even Engineering Math 1 failure rate increase about 30% from past..
Last time u required MUET band 3 to graduate, now BAND 1 enough...
The staff in MMU kinda shorter and shorter, and i heard rumors that FET gonna closed BEng. Mechanical, i dunno it is true or not..

If you really wanna take electronic engineering, MMU can be your choice, else, go to other university. I not to swap you away from here, but the reputation of this university is gonna be more worst...
If mechanical engineering, i recommend you go to UNITEN, or UTHO (university tun hussien onn), there will be much more specific course for mechanical field.

Dont ask me y i choose MMU... here is my answer, no other university accept me 5 years ago, except MMU and TARC... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(shohoku_14 @ May 10 2009, 10:59 PM)

Dont ask me y i choose MMU... here is my answer, no other university accept me 5 years ago, except MMU and TARC... tongue.gif
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You made the right choice then.

I supposed you didn't fare well in your BM paper at that time?
For one thing, Malaysian education is very uncertain.
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post May 11 2009, 12:43 AM

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MMU cert is recognized by government and UTAR cert not recognized by government...no?
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both recognised ^^
except certain courses..
MMU law <- not recognised
UTAR engineering <- not recognised
correct me if im wrong
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QUOTE(RainJR @ May 11 2009, 01:24 AM)
both recognised ^^
except certain courses..
MMU law <- not recognised
UTAR engineering <- not recognised
correct me if im wrong
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Then all those guys studying that particular course studying for nothing? Come on, common sense needed on this recognising thingy.

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