i cant comment on the SQ but the casing is certainly nice & bodes well for its potential. packaging is 9/10s of a product nowadays soo its a great start.

plus the pliceee certainly makes it competitive soo another ++. i hope i get a chance to try it out someday.

ps:if da powers-tat-be + da heavens are on my side, perhaps i can get a cheaper reviewer unit soo i can bring to local headmeets around the NA pac west. maybe some dudes from seattle mite be woweddddd

true dat...well said EFN! indeed most (if not all) amp casings can be dismantled anyways. its really no biggie for if its ground breaking technology, then have it patented. if one commercialize it, there will be ppl opening it up for more than a simple visual looksee. no one really cares much cos there's just too much stuff out there - besides cloning takes alot of resources too & its much easier to use & mod designs available in public domain. infact i think 'cept for IC circuitry, all amplifier designs are public domain but do korek me if im wrong.

it would be nice to know the basic tech & specs sooo those tat havnt heard can do a paper comparo. eg are the internal opamp/s interchangeable? or is it full discrete transistors? mw output rating? type of battery & replacement? physical size (pics wit ipod beside would be nice)? etc etc - i sincerely hope customer support will be excellent (for once) & it wont be another boleh deal of Just Listen Do As I Say Not As I Do & fergadsake Dont Ask Questions (geee sounds like some wacko wannabee PM of a banana monachyrepublic & his biggg maamaaa )

u know i oftened wonder about de asian mentality of shhhssssh shhhhssssh - don tell ya - big secret la - i only give to my son - typa thinking. i know its da 5000 year old culture talking but times have changed...fortunetly. esp if we commercialize stuff. speaking of which i bliv da chinese are da worlds worst offenders when it comes to cloning

sooo bottomline, ppl pls put out some specs & data on this. and be prepared to answer tough questions cos its out hard earned dineros we're spending sooo as smart & informed consumers tat we are ( ) we should could & would ask questions.

put it out there & let da market do its thang. if its good, build it & they will come

hey brader PcWork pls dont get me wrong ya as i've no intention of flaming u nor saying anything offensive nor disrespectful to u as i know that although youre a participating observer, u have no financial interests in this. i do know u bliv'd & like tis amp soo much tat u became owner of amp #001 & its bcos of your belief tat im even interested at all. to be totally honest whot i wrote has nothing to do with u as ya not the designer nor the commercializer (is there even such a word ).

i just feel in agreement with wot EFN stated & i just dont get this hush hush thermonuclear bomb making ISA secrecy deal (sidesss even nuclear bomb technology arnt 'secret' any longer if pakistan & north korea can make em. hell even bangladesh mite make one too jus for da hell of it.... ). i mean if this is a diy & make it for oneself or for other frens only, then tis 007 James Bond i-could-tell-ya-but-then-i'd-have-to-killya stuff would be totally kosher (or halal if 1prays to Allah & not Tuhan or isit de other way 'round ) but since da powers-tat-be are commercializing this, wots there to be 'fraid off? once ppl buy it, then its their property to dismantle look touch feel & yes....even copy & clone if they want to. unless its patented & someone is willing to pay the leeches (u mite call em lawyers ) to legal enforcement, theres really nothing anyone can do! gads look at china - they clone even in da face of international law

i say show it off to ppl & be proud to answer all pertinent questions. trade info like cap, resistor, component values need not be disclosed but a paying consumer has a rite to know wots he/shes buying. i truly bliv we asians can learn from the west in this regards on top of providing product support & customer service. ibasso as an eg isnt da best built not do they have ground breaking technology -in this i do blivs others are korek wen its stated tat every design in audio is public domain- heck me thinks they dont even spreakie no angrisssh but they try, they answer best they can & they stand behind their products so much so tat even redneck norte americanos speak highly of em. let me tell ya tat that is hard earned & NOT given as boleh politicians soo often demand.

sooo have a sitdown heart2heart tête-à-tête or jusa simple powwow wit the powers-tat-be but make em understand tat we paying consumers not only wants but have a right to know. get all da relevant facts & pics out sooo tat ppl know tat not only Malaysia - Truly Asia but Malaysia Boleh

in this age of instant info - there are no secrets. ask Edison Chen, Eli Wong or even ....bolehlands next PM (maybe)

as usual - juz ma humble 2cents

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Added on March 24, 2009, 5:40 pmedited on: O & i gats no issues wit ppl saying cmoy or emoy or better yet...ahmoi (cos scottie lovs de ahmois ya) so long as it sounds good. tats da bottomline for me & not wot other think or say.

btw i'd lov to have amp tats "A Wire With Gain" - as simple as tat

This post has been edited by scottiebabie: Mar 24 2009, 05:40 PM

hmmm while i can accept wit wot spider's saying, one cant also deny tat when one puts up an item for sale & takes orders from da general public then one instantly assumes certain responsibilities.

every product no matter how good or not, has its initial teething problems. the issue isnt to deny or take offense from questions but to satisfactorily answer, alleviate & hopefully solve any consumer anxieties & potential problems as best as possible.

how are consumers to have faith if even basic questions are 'secret'? afterall da markets only sooo 'big' -not a secret btw- in bolehland & frens of frens can only go far, in sales tat is. if one have any inkling of selling internationally then one better be well prepared. there are EE (not of NATOkind) or even just diy hobbyist of enormous talents & knowledge tat'l tear just tear it apart & bare it for da world to see.

of one cant accept this potential exposure then how to market & sell. instead of a 'secret' weakness...turn it into an overt 'revelation' - now tats marketing

yaaa one just need a webcam fo'some serious sexy stuff. we'll use de DSLR fo'some close -& i mean CLOSE UP- shots .

as for origin, dude im currently in a galaxy far far away where questions are welcome, opinions not seditious, rights mandatory, allah for all, uni education standard fare, english everyday, kings wit longggggg names non existent, treason for real 007 espionage stuff, taxpayers are tuan, comments not personal, models not C4'd, trees are fo'shade, sweatings fo'pigs&dogs -ooops fergot pigs&dogs dont sweat-, judges are learned & impartial, gomen ministers wit a semblance of intelligence, monkeys live in zoos & not roaming de streets on kapchais, police enforcing & NOT breaking laws, constituition supreme & so on & so on.

i aint kiddin - does sound like a different galaxy don it?

anyways bro PcWork -if i can still call ya tat- it notin personal bout u on u regarding u. ppl are just askin questions. if u dont wanna answer then say u dont wanna. if u dont wan ppl posting here asking for info then edit the heading with "Questions NOT Allowed" & "Agreement Only Plz" & prolly alot of question can be avoided -much like back in the 30s in china when Japs put up signs like "Chinese Not Allowed". then no one can be blamed if they're ignored.

i wonder though - how we can have a forum wit any semblance of intelligence or heck even a discussion if questions are verboten. wait....i fo'gets this is bolehland afterall.

Malaysia Boleh

aiyaaaa another boleh moment for me la! braaadar PcWork how many times must i say its NOT ABOUT U! its about de amp. let go thru da facts shall we - u started tis thread, u PM me re. tis wonderful amp wit ancient chinese 'secret' recipe & since i trust u & i bliv u im totally interested. sheeeeat i was even planning to show it off to da hillbilly yankees over here wen i go for some headfi meets. hence its de only reason im posting in this here secret amp club of 1. for the rest of us -who dun belong to no exclusive secret club- where else who else why else would ppl ask but here??? i think its time for an...Aaabaaadannnnnn ...moment!

if u dun wanna answer say u dun. if u cant answer say u cant. if ya dun know say u dun know. besides being da short & simple its alll goood. but don get upset & have a spazz attack if others have thoughts of their own. ppl still have a rite to ask, to wonder & horror of all horrors....to think & if need be, to be skeptical - NOT OF U but of unsubstantiated claims or rumors.

i know bolehland has its own rules (another Aaaabaaaadannn !) & all but normal civil societies with an ounce of reason would dictate tat claims be backed with some facts atleast if not proof. now i know asking questions about ketuanan & da gomen mite be deemed seditious or even derhaka (jus recently learnt tis word soo i must use it somewhere so do forgive me ) in bolehland but no matter how twisted da laws, questions about headamps dun fall into any ISA category. atleast non tat i know off but wadda i know. da good folks tat walk da corridors of power mite misinterpret the word 'headdd-damp' as sodomous activity in which case i can be screwed...literally.

if i wasnt interested i wouldnt give 2 hoots about no secret half baked or over cooked hamamp. as wonderful as this ancient chinese secret recipe mite be, wit money there are tons of good amps to buy...& tats no secret btw. cant speak fo'anyone but if scotties gonna spend money scottie wans ta know as much as he can - again tat aint no secret, jus plain ol consumer common sense plus im naturally curious. do pardon me if tat offends boleh sense & sensibilities as i guess im weird tat way .

now i know u offered to demo your proto topsecret amp but not all of us can avail ourselves to your very kind & generous offer (13000 miles have a way of posing quite a deterent). sooo wot can we unlucky ones do but use wot little gray matter one have left to make a semblance of sense to tis great secret recipe. btw where im at, not only can i inquire & question, quite a number of stores (online or otherwise) carry a standard 30day return policy & yet despite dat darn policy wit no secret recipe on da burner either, they manage to do biznes just fine. hmmm come to think of it, maybe tats why they aint gots no ancient chinese secret recipe.

i totally accept ya rite to tie personal relationships to biznes if tats wot u want. me... i just dont get any of tis. why a serious buyer have to feel like he's violated the official secrets act if instead of just faith, he wans some info wit facts & figures too. as i dont think im joining a religious cult, im trying desperately to look at the issues & not da person. unlike your (in)famous Mr.Lingam, where im from, if sounds funny smells funny & seems funny, u bet ya bottom dolla its gonna be funny. if interested parties dun wanna have ppl thinking tat then backing up claims with appropriate facts would be a definetly asset. else ppl have a rite to ask, to think, to conclude for themselves - even a simpleton like me can see its logical & its fair.

btw ppl can agree to dissagree & still be good frens. being frens dun mean we havta see eye2eye, we havta share da same bbq pork dumpling, we havta wear de same brand of panties, we havta giggle like school girls smokin dope nor we havta hold hands & play nice wit tongues. i know tis mite be a new concept for some but ppl can fervently disagree & yaaa even argue impassionately and yet at the end of da day....be da best of frens. its called being civilized -aint no secret either-

mite wanna try it sometime - its food for da soul

again only my humble 2cents (which thankfully wont get me ISA'd..yet). YMMV ofcos

hey no worries - no more longgg post nor any posts from me again in tis thread atleast. aint gats no more interest in superduper top secret eyes only double bond stuff. got better things to do wit ma hard earn'd money

'nuff said