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ashburn98
post Mar 24 2009, 02:22 PM

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So, the bottom line is , if I were to get a labtop today/this week, this model is the one hands down?
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post Mar 24 2009, 08:38 PM

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Afraid I don't have time to do in-depth research in various laptop. Is this the best price/performance laptop in the market right now?
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post Mar 26 2009, 04:24 PM

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Today I actually brought RM2200 to Low Yat Plaza and hoping the sales personals there can convince me that 4730ZG is the laptop to buy right now. Some of those sales people didn't even know 4730ZG existed and some still pricing them at RM2399/RM2299 saying 'promo price'. I have to educate them somemore about 4730ZG. sweat.gif I have no confidence buying from those guys at all or even listen to their recommendation, they are suppose to know more about laptops than me.

Saw one sales person promoting Aspire 4530 (i think) at RM1999. AMD Turion 2.2, 3G RAM, 3 years warranty. It was listed RM2099 with 1GB and 1 year warranty. Afraid that I'll be taken a ride by those half cooked sales staff, I went home instead and do my own research.

There's a few shops that offer below the RSP of RM2199 and some throw in freebies, so I'll be heading back to Low Yat this weekend, bringing along an IT friend.


Added on March 26, 2009, 4:26 pm
QUOTE(Sphenix @ Mar 26 2009, 03:09 PM)
1. how many USB on this laptop
2. does the "ACER" word on the lid got light when turn on?
3. the speaker ok? does it have cracking sound when turn to max?
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1. 2 USB slot as I see it. On the left hand side.
2. I don't recall that.
3. Didn't test.

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post Mar 26 2009, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Mar 26 2009, 06:16 PM)
Bro, do you get the frame rate correct? Low settings with shadows turned off should perform better.

I'm thinking to take this model to sell to LYN members? Is anyone interested? smile.gif
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I brought money to Low Yat Plaza today, but haven't bought yet. You still have chance. I'll be going back to LYP this weekend.


Added on March 26, 2009, 6:31 pm
QUOTE(ffrulz @ Mar 26 2009, 06:25 PM)
Yep, this is in-battle performance. around 3 fps boost would either mean its severely CPU bottlenecked or the game really runs terribly on Ati cards.

I have a desktop with a 4850 and with shadows turned high would give 12fps in battles and shadows turned to low would give 75 fps or so. But this doesn't show on the notebook so I would lean towards the CPU bottle neck part.
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That means the fps reads like this:
Medium settings all with Shadows to Low = 17fps
Low settings with Shadows turned off = 20fps.

Since the thoery now is CPU bottlenecking, do you/anyone have a software than can measure the CPU performance independent of the GPU?

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post Apr 10 2009, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(rhenadal @ Apr 10 2009, 05:47 AM)


The thing is, if i'm not mistaken, suppliers bear like 50% of the cost of the jusco vouchers; that's about RM 110.00. If they can sell at PC Fair price + give free stuffs + THE jusco cost of RM110, maybe u guys can squeeze more free stuff when u buy at pc fair.
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Thanks for the heads up and good deal you got from the RM200+ vouchers.
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post Apr 10 2009, 04:57 PM

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Guys, I just bought this lappy from PC fair. Is there a warranty card for this laptop, coz I searched the whole package and there isn't any card. I registered the warrranty online (acer.com.my) but it doesn't display the period of warranty.
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post Apr 10 2009, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(Sphenix @ Apr 10 2009, 05:06 PM)
ashburn98, how much u bought this laptop?
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RM2160 plus freebies. Freebies are backpack, carrying case, lock, cooler, mouse, keyboard protector, dvd-r, plus some not-very-useful vouchers.
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post Apr 11 2009, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Apr 10 2009, 09:20 PM)
ashburn..mind telling me which booth?the acer main booth or?coz i found others dont have dvd-r
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Hall 1 or Hall 2. The dvd-r isn't anything significant. It's only a piece of empty dvd-r. I bought from that booth because I didn't want to waste time walking back and forth to compare best freebies offers. That's why if you plan to buy, I think you could haggle around more.
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post Apr 12 2009, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Apr 12 2009, 08:36 AM)
which 7 free gifts?i been offered 2160 with freebies as well la
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Did you buy?
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post Apr 14 2009, 06:17 PM

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I rather get the RM2080 with basic freebies than RM2199/RM2160 (what I paid for) with additional freebies honestly. At least I can shop for the accessories I want.

Backlight bleeding is owning me to the max. I don't know if it just me who's unlucky or it's affected all 4730ZG units. Anyone knows if Acer service centre will rectify backlight bleeding?

One thing I didn't realise is I was given a Dark Blue colour model. I thought it comes as Black. I prefer Black to Dark Blue.

Uninstalled most of the Acer crap & trial softwares. Haven't install games yet on this laptop nor ran benchmarking tools yet.
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post Apr 16 2009, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Apr 15 2009, 11:04 PM)
well..im using this laptop at the moment..just got it no longer..but internet line too slow.cant do anything with this speed =.=
okay..line getting better...so which item can i uninstall?coz my C drive is already 80+gb..i mean out of 110GB..so its taking out alot of space..and also some questions..

got 2 drive..C and D..both are 110gb...so where did the other 30GB went to?=.=
and which can i uninstall?games ya..and?
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I uninstalled all the Acer programs except the Acer webcam and VCM. You can keep Acer GridVista too, just in case you need to connect to multiple display units. I uninstalled all the trial programs as well (antivirus, office 2007, cyberlink dvd player, etc).

Complains on this model? I'll be uploading pics of the backlight bleeding and will need the help of you guys to check if it's the same with your laptops.
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post Apr 17 2009, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(kancilmerah @ Apr 17 2009, 03:05 AM)
Hi,
I noticed this model at my local IT store. I'm from besut, terengganu. It is offered at RM2199. The only freebies are just an optical mouse + cooler pad / usb thumbdrive.
At first, I thought of going to buy it at Kota Bharu but then after reading all posting here. It seems that, the price is just with a slight different. So, I'm not going to waste my car fuel to travel to Kota Bharu which is an hour drive from my place. Am I making the right decision?

I also wonder whether I can install Office 2003 since it is Vista. Sorry to silly question. I DON'T have experience or knowledge on Vista and because I already have Ori Office 2003. Help me here please.

I'm thinking of getting it this saturday since friday is holiday here.

Thanx in advance.
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RM2199 with 2 freebies is all right if the alternatives will cost you even more. Get the cooler pad and see if the shop can throw in an USB hub for you. You'll need an USB hub for sure for this laptop.

I installed Office 2003 also, so no problems there.

Will upload pics of the 'backlight bleeding' later.
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post Apr 18 2009, 08:35 AM

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Backlight bleeding (white glow on the LCD bottom)

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Same for you guys or I'll be heading to the service center soon?
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post Apr 19 2009, 04:18 AM

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QUOTE(Maestrol @ Apr 18 2009, 09:45 PM)
What is backlight bleeding? At some viewing angle on a blank screensaver, mine looks like this too.
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That's why I'm asking fellow owners if they encounter the same thing. If everyone is having the same thing, then I'll guess it's normal, if not, then I'll have to send it back.

Backlight bleeding is when you put a black wallpaper and the monitor displays grayish-white colours from the monitor sides. Example of bleeding from LCD:

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post Apr 19 2009, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Apr 19 2009, 08:50 AM)

Backlight bleeding is normal for LCD because of its technology. This LCD is a TN panel, so the 'bleeding' is just whitish. If you get those expensive LCD with more colour gamut, you might see orange or reddish bleeding!
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Additional info are always helpful but in my case, I need to know how many of 4730zg has/has not this problem. If everyone has that white patch of glow with black wallpaper then I have no course to complain. If I'm the only one out, then I have to take a day off to go to Acer service centre.
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post Apr 20 2009, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Maestrol @ Apr 20 2009, 01:06 PM)
Bingo. I realised this before buying this laptop. I was wondering what is the difference between C2D T6400 and Pentium Dual Core T4200. And it came out to be T4200 is a stripped down version of T6400. The FSB, Processor Frequency and Penryn core are the same, except for the L2 cache and some Intel Instruction Sets which is minimal and do not justify the price difference between these 2 processors. rclxms.gif

For more info read this
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I'll admit I didn't go reading up to these details before getting this laptop so I'll consider it as a bonus. smile.gif

One thing I did realize is the DDR2 RAM is 335Mhz @ 5.5.5.12 latency. Compared to my desktop RAM, it's feels slow.
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post Apr 23 2009, 08:40 PM

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1. nope, it comes preinstalled
2. 1 and half hours of non heavy use
3. the laptop cooler makes a noticeable difference. the keyboard was cool while the mousepad area was warm.
4. no idea.
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post Apr 25 2009, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(chongsmotor @ Apr 24 2009, 07:31 PM)

2.Dont even think about a RM 2199 laptop can give u a superior graphic,,,act it is just best graphic card build in for
  laptop below RM2500..

  I am a user for 4730zg,,, smile.gif
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Correct. If RM2199 can beat RM3000+ laptop in games, then it won't be RM2199 or it'd been sold out long ago. Just think this as best spec/cheap price laptop.

I don't know how Acer phase out their laptop but I can tell you there aren't any reviews on 4730ZG when I joined this thread (before buying). So maybe Acer does phase out their laptops.

Apart from my dissatisfaction with the LCD blacklight bleeding. (My desktop LCD is S-IPS panel and have some bleeding as well), it is doing well for office work. Gaming reviews you have to ask from other owners.
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post Apr 26 2009, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Apr 25 2009, 10:31 PM)
haha..sure..no problem =D
ya..going to overclock..but at the moment...not serious gaming yet tongue.gif
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Let us know the results when you decided to OC it.
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post Apr 29 2009, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(yi7117 @ Apr 29 2009, 05:16 AM)
If you are on a budget btw 2k to 2.5k for an average gaming lappy,
this model I can say is the best value for money lappy at the moment. smile.gif
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Likewise.

Having asked all the available laptops brands during PC fair, this model is higher on the best value for money scale right now. Apart from the specs, it tags along with a 3 year warranty and vista premium (usually you'll get vista basic).

Some Compaq models are cheaper in price but it comes with lesser spec and you'll have to install your own OS.





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