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post Jun 16 2010, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(naughtyz @ Jun 14 2010, 08:13 PM)
Yes...ARchicad..That's the one...is this application i have to buy?
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hahhaha urmm bro what do you mean if you have to buy? best case scenario wud be to purchase the original lo. unsure.gif
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post Jun 19 2010, 03:39 PM

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that's what i want to know..is it expensive like autocad for windows? cost thousands of ringgit..
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QUOTE(naughtyz @ Jun 19 2010, 03:39 PM)
that's what i want to know..is it expensive like autocad for windows? cost thousands of ringgit..
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i dunno how much it cost, but this is the malaysian purchase page from their website. you can try contact the number listed if you're interested

http://www.graphisoft.com/purchase/asia_pa...c/malaysia.html
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post Jun 19 2010, 08:03 PM

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Most of the 3D software is cost u quite hefty. As Cinema4D cost u about RM3.5k now, but compared to 3DS Max which cost you RM10k, then what should you go about?
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QUOTE(b48753 @ Jun 19 2010, 08:03 PM)
Most of the 3D software is cost u quite hefty. As Cinema4D cost u about RM3.5k now,  but compared to 3DS Max which cost you RM10k, then what should you go about?
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i think we all know how to solve this, we are MALAYSIANs. brows.gif hahha we're just not allowed to say it openly in the forum. blush.gif
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post Jun 20 2010, 03:23 PM

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Yeah...u know ah.. brows.gif
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post Jun 21 2010, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(b48753 @ Jun 20 2010, 03:23 PM)
Yeah...u know ah.. brows.gif
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i think everyone also know. i mean most malaysians would. brows.gif
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post Jun 22 2010, 03:04 PM

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i know it..but don't how to do it...can someone teach me :pitty face:


Added on June 22, 2010, 3:05 pmi know it..but don't how to do it...can someone teach me :pitty face:

This post has been edited by naughtyz: Jun 22 2010, 03:05 PM
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post Jun 23 2010, 04:44 AM

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QUOTE(naughtyz @ Jun 22 2010, 03:04 PM)
i know it..but don't how to do it...can someone teach me :pitty face:


Added on June 22, 2010, 3:05 pmi know it..but don't how to do it...can someone teach me :pitty face:
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urm buy the cd? shhhhh. blush.gif
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post Jun 28 2010, 04:59 PM

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i am an architecture student who uses an imac and windows together. I bought a Toshiba Satellite laptop for 6K something and after 2 years the mother board and graphic card got burnt. I was pratically going boinkers cause i was rushing for my final project. so i took my imac and installed bootcamp running on Windows XP. So far so good. no crashes and runs very smoothly but lately its running out of memory space.

i want to get a new laptop since i'm continuing my degree soon. after my bad experience with my toshiba, i don't really trust normal windows based laptops(the time for them to check is like forever) anymore since my imac saved my ass last minute. i am thinking on getting the new MBP with i7 but i heard there are overheating issues with it.

the softwares i'm gonna be using is AutoCAD, Rhino, 3dsmax, Sketchup and adobe.

any suggestions? cause a lot of people are telling me to go for DELL or thinkpads.

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i'm currently using 1st generation imac (white) that came with the Tiger OS.

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QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jun 28 2010, 04:59 PM)
i am an architecture student who uses an imac and windows together. I bought a Toshiba Satellite laptop for 6K something and after 2 years the mother board and graphic card got burnt. I was pratically going boinkers cause i was rushing for my final project. so i took my imac and installed bootcamp running on Windows XP. So far so good. no crashes and runs very smoothly but lately its running out of memory space.

i want to get a new laptop since i'm continuing my degree soon. after my bad experience with my toshiba, i don't really trust normal windows based laptops(the time for them to check is like forever) anymore since my imac saved my ass last minute. i am thinking on getting the new MBP with i7 but i heard there are overheating issues with it.

the softwares i'm gonna be using is AutoCAD, Rhino, 3dsmax, Sketchup and adobe.

any suggestions? cause a lot of people are telling me to go for DELL or thinkpads.
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Can you source your info in regards to MBP i7s overheating?

You should be fine getting an i5 or i7, depending on your budget. You'll be able to run your programs via Bootcamp, as you've experienced, although I would suggest that you upgrade to Windows 7 for stability and security reasons.

Dells are okay if price is a concern. Just consider weight, bulk, battery and heat when purchasing.
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post Jun 28 2010, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Ojimaru @ Jun 28 2010, 05:40 PM)
Can you source your info in regards to MBP i7s overheating?

You should be fine getting an i5 or i7, depending on your budget. You'll be able to run your programs via Bootcamp, as you've experienced, although I would suggest that you upgrade to Windows 7 for stability and security reasons.

Dells are okay if price is a concern. Just consider weight, bulk, battery and heat when purchasing.
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Well i have been reading the reviews online regarding the overheat issues from websites that does new gadget product testings. so i went to the mac dealer shop to ask for more informations. some are saying it has overheat problems and some are saying its not true unless i use heavy flash programmes.

my sister bought a DELL XPS for normal usage and since then she's been repairing it non-stop. that's why i question the quality of it.
i was just wondering is it worth to invest on a high-end MBP cause i am planning to customise it to 8GB, 500GB 7200rpm if i'm getting it. don't want to end-up with great dissapointment again sad.gif

and i run bootcamp on imac so i think it won't be a problem since desktops are always more powerful than laptops. so i am worried that it can't handle my workload like how a desktop would.



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QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jun 28 2010, 05:50 PM)
Well i have been reading the reviews online regarding the overheat issues from websites that does new gadget product testings. so i went to the mac dealer shop to ask for more informations. some are saying it has overheat problems and some are saying its not true unless i use heavy flash programmes.
If you're running games and Flash video or compiling large video files, the laptop will get hot. Fact of life, so far. Links to these sites you mention?

QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jun 28 2010, 05:50 PM)
my sister bought a DELL XPS for normal usage and since then she's been repairing it non-stop. that's why i question the quality of it.
i was just wondering is it worth to invest on a high-end MBP cause i am planning to customise it to 8GB, 500GB 7200rpm if i'm getting it. don't want to end-up with great dissapointment again  sad.gif 
I'd trade the 500GB HDD for Hi-res screen (considering your field of study) and get an external firewire Hard drive. But, that's just me.

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QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jun 28 2010, 05:50 PM)
and i run bootcamp on imac so i think it won't be a problem since desktops are always more powerful than laptops. so i am worried that it can't handle my workload like how a desktop would.
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That depends on the specs of the laptop and desktop.
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post Jun 29 2010, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ojimaru @ Jun 29 2010, 08:47 AM)
If you're running games and Flash video or compiling large video files, the laptop will get hot. Fact of life, so far. Links to these sites you mention?
I'd trade the 500GB HDD for Hi-res screen (considering your field of study) and get an external firewire Hard drive. But, that's just me.

3-2-1 Backup
3 copies (1 original, 2 backups)
2 different media
1 off-site
That depends on the specs of the laptop and desktop.
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hmm. i'm really crackin' my head on this. anyway thanks for the suggestions!
will look into it =)
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i agree with Ojimaru. the high-res screen is a good upgrade. or, if u really want to avoid repairs etc, buy ACPP.

about desktops being more powerful than laptops, dun forget that imac is using laptop components. u didnt mention which imac are u referring to, but i have a feeling the i7 MBP would be faster smile.gif


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QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jun 28 2010, 04:59 PM)
i am an architecture student who uses an imac and windows together. I bought a Toshiba Satellite laptop for 6K something and after 2 years the mother board and graphic card got burnt. I was pratically going boinkers cause i was rushing for my final project. so i took my imac and installed bootcamp running on Windows XP. So far so good. no crashes and runs very smoothly but lately its running out of memory space.

i want to get a new laptop since i'm continuing my degree soon. after my bad experience with my toshiba, i don't really trust normal windows based laptops(the time for them to check is like forever) anymore since my imac saved my ass last minute. i am thinking on getting the new MBP with i7 but i heard there are overheating issues with it.

the softwares i'm gonna be using is AutoCAD, Rhino, 3dsmax, Sketchup and adobe.

any suggestions? cause a lot of people are telling me to go for DELL or thinkpads.
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hey i know what you mean. was using a toshiba satellite not too long ago, and it failed on me too. currently i am using both mbp with i5 and c2d. i run similar programs as you do (autoCad/3ds Max/SketchUp) and so far it seems to be fine. about the overheating problem, the left side of the laptop do get hot after awhile and the fan may run on high speed, but i find that pretty normal and it does not effect the performance of the laptop. i suggest using it in a fully air conditioned room or have a fan blowing directly to the laptop. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(llsphinxll @ Jul 1 2010, 07:18 PM)
hey i know what you mean. was using a toshiba satellite not too long ago, and it failed on me too. currently i am using both mbp with i5 and c2d. i run similar programs as you do (autoCad/3ds Max/SketchUp) and so far it seems to be fine. about the overheating problem, the left side of the laptop do get hot after awhile and the fan may run on high speed, but i find that pretty normal and it does not effect the performance of the laptop. i suggest using it in a fully air conditioned room or have a fan blowing directly to the laptop.  thumbup.gif
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Thanks for sharing your toshiba experience cause apparently i'm being accused as the laptop spoiler shakehead.gif
(that is why i am being a bit paranoid on getting a reliable laptop doh.gif )

are you using parallels, vmware or bootcamp? the only hesitation on me from getting a mbp is the autoCAD part. cause it will be quite troublesome to have to switch back and forth when i'm working on 3D and ammending the plans (maybe it only applies to 3dsmax cause its one hecka polyline crazee rclxub.gif )

the guy from the mac store suggests that i use bootcamp(for the workload) instead of parallels or vmware.

btw i tried downloading the mac version of autoCAD but too bad it keeps on crashing so can't really tell how is it. wonder when is it gonna get released...
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QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jul 5 2010, 05:31 PM)
Thanks for sharing your toshiba experience cause apparently i'm being accused as the laptop spoiler  shakehead.gif
(that is why i am being a bit paranoid on getting a reliable laptop  doh.gif )

are you using parallels, vmware or bootcamp? the only hesitation on me from getting a mbp is the autoCAD part. cause it will be quite troublesome to have to switch back and forth when i'm working on 3D and ammending the plans (maybe it only applies to 3dsmax cause its one hecka polyline crazee rclxub.gif )

the guy from the mac store suggests that i use bootcamp(for the workload) instead of parallels or vmware.

btw i tried downloading the mac version of autoCAD but too bad it keeps on crashing so can't really tell how is it. wonder when is it gonna get released...
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Are you sure there's a autocad version for MacOS X? So far i knew there's only Autocad for MacOS 7.
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QUOTE(b48753 @ Jul 5 2010, 05:59 PM)
Are you sure there's a autocad version for MacOS X? So far i knew there's only Autocad for MacOS 7.
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oh...sorry, i don't know exactly what OS it runs. but i'm using leopard OS. not sure about all these.
you can try searching for Sledgehammer autocad though. don't know whether its just a preview version or what cause it keeps on crashing.



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the Sledgehammer isnt officially out yet. that's why still lots of bugs to get fixed

eeoyr if you're planning to get parallels or vmware anyway (for other purposes besides autocad etc), maybe u shud try using those software on VM first and see if the performance is okay for you. if it is, great biggrin.gif if no, then bootcamp lah

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