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 Girls are money minded, And be proud of it.

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post May 6 2009, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(secretsquirrel @ May 6 2009, 03:59 PM)
Cant agree at all, my young ezra.  Things are not meant to be yours, then it is not yours, why bother? Eg, a girl who is money-minded, and u r poor. Let her go, she is not yours. U may remain poor but grow your wisdom by hardworks then u will get a really nice girl who is willing go thr life's up and down with you, u dont have to simply dream on the girl who is money minded only cos it wont do u any good. At the same time, when she is That money minded, is she someone that u really care to live with till you are 80yo? What does she posses? beauty? intelligent? If she does, she wouldnt be money-minded and choose some rich guy over you...smile.gif
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I agree. Looks (physical attractiveness) and wealth (money) are IRRELEVANT (dont matter) when it comes to LOVE.

That said, girls dont like falling in love with guys who are not thriving in the same way they dont like falling in love with guys who are shorter than they are.

That's why it is very important for a guy to thrive and be awesome especially when he is looking for a partner.

People fall in love when they are reasonably compatible (language/spirituality/emotionally) and spend enough time together. Girls want to spend time with guys who are thriving. With guys who carry themselves well in the game of life...and it's hard to do that without enough money (ie. if you can barely feed yourself).

ULTIMATELY, guys who are thriving will have much more OPPORTUNITY to bond/click/connect/empathize/interact with girls and are much more likely to fall in love.

Girls do not want to spend time/bond/click/empathize/connect/interact with guys who are not thriving. A guy who is not thriving is usually disproportionate (read: scrawny), cant take care of himself (read: his life's a mess), and is not confident (read: shy).... Guys with money usually thrive...though not always. Guys without money are unlikely (still possible on a tight budget though) to thrive at all.
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post May 6 2009, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Vinx @ May 6 2009, 04:00 PM)
Agree, without money guy cant be a good provider. Girls are not attracted to money but most are attracted to handsome guys  brows.gif But overall money is still important.  whistling.gif
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Oh right.. i forgot to mention, I was talking about girls looking to settle down, not teens at a nightclub looking for an ONS. For the former category of women, a man's physical attributes are still important (read: taller than her, and not too ugly), but the ability of the man as a provider of security (financial/emotional) is paramount.
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post May 6 2009, 04:14 PM

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Vinx, i think your statement is true for a particular demographic of girls (late teens).

How old are you?
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post May 7 2009, 06:34 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 7 2009, 03:44 AM)
+1

Another person who understands what ezra does not. Ezra, can you see the point you're missing? smile.gif
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ May 6 2009, 04:26 PM)
Man, are there sooooo many misconceptions in here.

1) Men need money so they can provide for their women.
Hello, is this the year 2009 or 1909? Women have their own careers now, they're independent, they can earn their own money. A fair and equal relationship means both partners provide for each other.

2) Women only want men who can support them financially.
If this is your only perception of women, then you're hanging out with the wrong people. There are plenty of mature and independent women out there - but then again, you're not likely to date them because you're immature.

3) Rich men are more confident, therefore more attractive to women.
Boy, you really haven't lived much, have you? Plenty of rich people are miserable, and plenty of average working-class people are lead happy, satisfying lives. Wealth is only a symptom, not a cause.

Both sides are arguing extremes here - one side says "Money is important!", the other side says "Money is not everything!", then that side says "So you want to be poor izzit?"

"Important" is not the same as "Everything".
"Money isn't everything" doesn't mean "I'm happy to be poor".

There's so many straw men being thrown around here - y'all really need to read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

In any case, I fall more on the side of "money isn't everything". It's especially antithetical to love, which is all about compassion and sacrifice and doing the right thing instead of blindly following some "biological imperative". It doesn't mean that financial problems won't affect relationships. It does mean that financial problems can be overcome, as long as the love and trust are strong.
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QUOTE(ezralimm @ May 6 2009, 04:08 PM)
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I agree. Looks (physical attractiveness) and wealth (money) are IRRELEVANT (dont matter) when it comes to LOVE.


BUT... That said, girls dont like falling in love with guys who are not thriving in the same way they dont like falling in love with guys who are shorter than they are.

That's why it is very important for a guy to thrive and be awesome especially when he is looking for a partner.

People fall in love when they are reasonably compatible (language/spirituality/emotionally) and spend enough time together. Girls want to spend time with guys who are thriving. With guys who carry themselves well in the game of life...and it's hard to do that without enough money (ie. if you can barely feed yourself).

ULTIMATELY, guys who are thriving will have much more OPPORTUNITY to bond/click/connect/empathize/interact with girls and are much more likely to fall in love.

Girls do not want to spend time/bond/click/empathize/connect/interact with guys who are not thriving. A guy who is not thriving is usually disproportionate (read: scrawny), cant take care of himself (read: his life's a mess), and is not confident (read: shy).... Guys with money usually thrive...though not always. Guys without money are unlikely (still possible on a tight budget though) to thrive at all.
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Girls want to spend time with guys who are thriving... in the same way guys want to spend time and give heaps of attention to the pretty girls. Spending time and empathizing (emotional bonding) is the prelude to love.


Rich people do commit suicide. True.
But poor people do so much more frequently smile.gif

Rich people are not necessarily in love with their partner. True.
...but the same argument applies to poor people.

Ultimately fewer rich people remain single for long, and those that do get married are less likely to divorce (Being poor is a potent risk factor for divorce). Talk all you want about how money doesnt matter... The facts prove otherwise.

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post May 9 2009, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(outsider @ May 9 2009, 09:36 AM)
good lar
even i agree with moorish
but i also want to remind girls like moorish nowaday
if u think to marry rich guy only ~~~~ wait la......not every girl can be so lucky to become rich guy 
but u all also got another option .....become 2nd wife
oh yea...by the way ~~~ when guy is rich...the higher chance they wanna get 2nd wife
so ~~~~~ good luck to u all  smile.gif
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Yeah, it's kinda difficult to change from a girl to a guy. Guy to girl - surgery is easy.. THe other way round it's not the same...
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QUOTE(gsuave @ May 10 2009, 10:19 AM)
well, guys likes to chase the pretty ones. How's that compared to a girls like money?
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very very similar...


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post May 10 2009, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ May 10 2009, 02:23 PM)

What it means to women - we shall refer to this as Definition A:
- Girls who are attracted to smart, successful, independent men with bright futures.
- Girls who want the security - both financial and emotional - of being with such a man.
- Girls who dislike unmotivated, directionless men who can't hold down a job.

Now, what it means to men, is the following Definition B:
- Girls who judge men by the car they drive.
- Girls who demand that men spend on them beyond their means - nicer dates, more expensive presents, more spending money.
- Girls who value expensive clothes, jewellery and supplementary credit cards over love and affection.

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Very well said.

btw,

I've just updated my article to include the link between money/looks and love/happiness.

Could ya pls help bump the thread?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=986099


Thanks!

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post May 12 2009, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ May 12 2009, 03:35 PM)
There is another concern: that due to ever increasing levels of inflation and the specialisation of jobs, social mobility today is a lot less than it used to be.

May it be a legitimate concern that those who find themselves in the "middle" or lower income bracket have a higher chance of slipping down than rising up (using real income as a comparison), all options considered?
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This is true. As we head towards a more egalitarian society, some people are left behind.... And those that had progressed to the middle and lower-middle classes feel that their progress has stagnated.

At the end of the day, the purchasing power parity adjusted income of malaysians is roughly a third that of developed nations - alot better than we were just 30 years ago... but nothing spectacular considering the vast natural resources malaysia was blessed with - though it could be argued that an influx of wealth corrupts and is more of a curse than a blessing.


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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 02:04 PM)
fully agree, however I've never ever mention to marry a rich husband so we can buy LV bags and drive BMW, I was stressing on the point of security, you know where you;re heading and you know your children would live comfortably, not luxury which I do not believe in training my kids to be, but comfortable where we dun worry about whats for dinner tomoro.
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so basically you're saying that girls dont want to make babies with guys who are not good providers smile.gif

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post May 12 2009, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 05:31 PM)
different ppl different standard la, I may consider my husband as rich but some of my gf will just snub at him, coz they're eyeing for the new C-class.

Some ppl would be happy if hubby buys them a MYVI (me blush.gif )
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lol. so true.

I guess everyone has a different standard that they are willing to settle for.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2009, 07:27 PM)
There is one Shanghai guy staying right above me. sweat.gif

Few weeks ago,he cried so loud when,i think,the gf wants to dump him.

I didnt sleep for 2 nights. mellow.gif
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lol he wasnt crying _that_ loudly was he laugh.gif

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