1 question has anyone disect the console yet?? what improvement made compared to the other version.. i dont think upgrading the gpu and heat reduction will save it from rod.

there are alot of rrod types

main 1 of course is the heat and reduction

so this is MS's first step 2 reduciton

other cases can generally be fixed, such as loose cable, messed up pwoer , failed hard disk, shitty dvd rom

but mainly , heat & gpu hence jasper

In detail, the new GPU is supposed to add a layer of "suspension" to allow the soldering to expend when heated which the pre-falcon era did not have this mechanism, i mean supposed as it is actually implemented in Falcon but somehow not working properly.

the GPU broken soldering problem is not due to heat itself but rather because of the chip packaging do not tolerate thermal stress. That's the root cause of the broken soldering.

In order to solve that, the manufacturer supposed to rework the soldering suspension layer and not the heatsink system as the system is stable until the soldering break.

Even watercooler did not guarantee that the heat will not causing thermal stress on the soldering....so no point for them to revise cooling.

Thanks to M$ "experienced" team...the problem can only solved after 3 f**king years of the initial launch.

which anyways, i am 100% sure if i open my FALCON 6 months ago, my thermal paste would be about 50% messed up

then soon it will RROD

sigh... MS

Guys, finally I WAS RIGHT I mean Some old 20GB HDD can cause hardware failure i your new JASPER model so yeah, I did took out my 20GB HDD

I hope my parents will have some wealth to buy the new 60GB HDD later.

dude... hdd wont cause ur xbox rrod.. just play with it dude.. if u got rrod, it's becayse of ur hdd only.. not ur jasper. no worries.. ur jasper wont spoiled just because a hdd failure.
gosh.. still lot's of ppl dont know what is RROD.

Bah, spare your words, he's phobia about it, soo much that he goes to the extend to aviod at all cost.

maybe in near future he'll consider avoiding XBOX360 at all cost.

He was right, he scare too much that taking out that thing will make him feel good.

anyone's jasper here kena hit by e74?

- RROD problem - None so far
- Playing hours - Have played the console for 9 hours straight but night time till morning
- HDD problem - None so far
- DVD rom problem - None so far
- In game problem (freezing/lagging etc..) - Only with Toger Woods 09 but found a way out/resolve it
- or anything else that makes u love or hate it.. - Prefer it over my PS2

just bought xbox 360 RE5 edition

rrod 1 time
Now Playing Fine.....hopefully
Use notebook cooler to blow it
use usb fan blow it
use room fan blow it
i cannot think of anymore thing to blow off the heat edi
hahaha

so it means jasper is still using d old gpu soldering method like falcon n at last it will also fail??

aircond direct air?

marble floor tiles underneath?

what the effect of 3 ROD? izzit can cause graphic failure?

The effect of 3 ROD is very beneficial, one of them is that you never have to buy a frying pan again because it allows you to cook scramble egg for breakfast on top of the GPU's heat sink.

then not that really bad right?..not the graphic failure..

it's a common n most feared problem for Xbox360 for previous version since year 2005. if u simply google it .. u will get ur answer. Basically, it's general hardware failure ... means it can be small problem or the console totally dead.

ok thanks...

From Xenon timethey already using the same soldering method. It's the construction & construction material of the soldering & chip packaging went wrong and not the method.

Don't get it wrong.

Jasper is fully tested before it's delayed rollout so it solved the problem.

But for the longevity...we shall see....

anything deteriotes after long time of use

so we just have 2 wait n see anyways