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post Apr 10 2011, 06:02 PM

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@OMG! : yes, getting a PharmD in the US would take a longer time. They require graduate entry just like Medicine in the US, or like Melbourne Uni's graduate entries for Medicine & Dentistry. I'm guessing some countries or profession are moving towards that now.  ph34r.gif



do you think this would be a great measure to ensure the good quality of Doc, Pharm and dentist a country produce? well, to me, it is more like you might not be mature enough to choose these tough professions to do simply after your Pre U , doing a grads degree first is better before u come to choose to be a doctor or pharm.
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post Apr 10 2011, 06:24 PM

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I found these two different programmes which are being offered at UKM:
Master of Science (Pharmaceutical Analysis)
Master in Clinical Pharmacy
would like to know what are actually the differences between these two Master courses? From what i know, the former is only designated for students with BPharm while the latter is open to all students with Pharmacy, Chemistry, Chemical Engineering according to the website? I guess a degree in biotech and biochem also eligible to apply for right?
well, Master of science pharmaceutical analysis would allows one to work in pharmaceutical companies since it is more or less dealing with QC and R&D works isn't it? correct me if i am wrong.


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QUOTE(baoz @ Apr 10 2011, 06:13 PM)
Yes, you are right. I just had a discussion with an education counsellor the other day about this. Many people jump into these professions right out of pre-u because of peer pressure. At that time, students of 18 or 19 would also be too young to think if these courses are really the right one for them.

Imagine by 3rd year (when you are 21 or 22 and mature enough), you realise that medicine isn't what you want to do for the rest of your life. How do you jump out of it unless you have the money to do another degree?

Then again, I think this is practical for countries with a good public education system. In the event I want to do medicine after my BPharm or BSc (Malaysia via private uni) I would have to fork out at least half a million.

If public unis allow me to do this, I would be more than willing. Not eager to jump into the working world so quickly.  sweat.gif

Unfortunately for Melbourne Uni, they have lost lots of students from the Asian region because of this Melbourne Model which they came up with (do a general breadth undergrad and move on to your professional degree). But many Australians are actually receptive towards this. Then again, they only pay 1/4 of the fees we international students pay. Not surprising.
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I couldn't agree with the US system to allow a graduate from a related degree to choose to enter Pharmacy fields or otherwise. A lots of the same scenario do happen with my friends who later found that their interest is not lying within Pharmacy field, they think if they like chemistry, the same would goes into having an interest in pharmacy field. Misconception exists so frequently that even a few of my friends think of dropping out from pharmacy school, and some just maintain a slightly <3.0 CGPA while stressing themselves over to their finals and so on. that brings me to the questions of :What is the point of doing something which you don't like?!

Now am currently doing my Biochemistry degree, would be glad to if i were given a chance to enter US pharmacy school after grads, I heard John Hoopkins Uni gonna build its subbranch in Malaysia , may try to my luck and see how things going then. smile.gif

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post Apr 14 2011, 09:10 PM

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would be interested to know are the lecturers mostly from Pharmacy background or those holder of Phd? sometimes qualification matter too.
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post Aug 28 2011, 08:27 PM

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Well, again this same old question still baffled me . is a colour blind ( red Green Colour Deficiency) student allowed to study Pharmacy in IPTA/IPTS?
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post Aug 28 2011, 10:29 PM

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But from what i know, most of the pills nowadays are white in color, and most of the dispensing job does not involve much on differentiating pills' color.

What is your say on that?
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post Aug 29 2011, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 28 2011, 10:46 PM)
That's not quite true....many pills are still colored...yes you can point out 100 reasons that it might not be the pharmacist's job to differentiate the pills..or most pills are white....but ethically it's still not right... one mistake is all it takes...

But, as a color blind person, i doubt you could pass the practicals through out the degree anyway....  smile.gif
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That is the current situation faced by many other students who did their Pharmacy degree . some even asked me whether they are allowed to do Pharmacy if they are colour blind seeing the facts that there are NO rules stating that colour blind person MUST NOT apply for Pharmacy course.

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post Aug 29 2011, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 29 2011, 12:28 PM)
Yes it's quite ambiguous at the moment. That'd why interview at the course admission is quite important.

But common sense will tell you that you that a Color blind person shouldn't be a doing a professional course if you can't even distinguish traffic light colors.
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Don't get me wrong. Red green colour blindness can still distinguish traffic light colour, it is not a major issue to be bother about when it comes to driving. My friends who are diagnosed this common colour blindness still can pass their driving test. Do google out for more info. there are various types of colour blindness for that being said.
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post Aug 5 2012, 08:40 AM

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any idea if one were to venture into regulatory affairs executives after graduate with a BPharm?

I heard that the regulatory affairs require a grads with either a BSc or Bpharm, how is the life of working as a regulatory affairs in a pharm company if anyone of you doing BPharm knows?
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post Aug 5 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(baoz @ Aug 5 2012, 09:44 AM)
Haven't met/spoken to anyone personally but from what I gather, you'll be the one responsible for putting a product on the market and making sure it fulfills all the legal requirements.

Deal with government people, deal with your own production plant. I'm guessing tons of paperwork, lots of deadlines to meet and having to rush other people as well.

Also good job satisfaction, watching your products go on the shelves. How well they sell will depend on your marketing team.

Regulatory Affairs is definitely one of the career paths you can take with a BPharm. But from what I browse in the Classifieds, they sometimes require you to have a PhD. Or if without, at least 2 years experience in the relevant field. Based on what was described above I can see why because it's not something you learn during your undergrad. You will have to make sure all the clinical trials have been safe and successful too.
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It is not restricted to only those with BPharm, but also BSc in any life science as long as you could read and understand scientific papers. For the companies that require a Master or Phd or a few years of working experiences, the position is a bit higher maybe , a RA Manager/ assistant manager. I see for every chemical, pharm, food , cosmetics industry, they need RA for ensuring their newly developed products are on the commercial market

thus, i can see the important roles up there. however, i saw a few companies do accept fresh grads with BSc or BPharm for a position of RA executives.

Also, note that both RA and QA/QC are different, but i think they are somewhat related to quality checking etc. the skills for both are transferable, IMO.
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post Aug 7 2012, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 5 2012, 01:45 PM)
nope not really. there are some niche industries which specifically requires the expertise of a pharmacist only...especially drug companies.. having a pharmacy degree may prove to be more valuable compared to a general science degree..
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yes, valuable as in the sense of the licence. some expertise is needed in pharmaceutical industries are just a licence from Pharmacist which involve having the right of obtaining, dispensing and approving medical drugs etc.

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