@OMG!

just realized that curtin has a Graduate Entry Master of Pharmacy. Basically it is for those people holding a pharmacy undergraduate degree from country that are not recognized by Curtin. (I dont know how they evaluate a degree but i have seen people holding pharmacy degree from china exempted first year only)


Applicants should hold a relevant bachelor degree or equivalent and a history of above average grades. Essential prerequisites include completion of at least one tertiary unit in mathematics, statistics, chemistry, biochemistry, microbiology, human biology and physiology.

For international students, English language competency equivalent to an IELTS score of 7.0 overall, with no band lower than 7.0, is required.

Entry requirements for Australian & NZ students as well as international students can be found here:
http://courses.curtin.edu.au/course_overvi...Master-Pharmacy


@AbCkiD

i knew a few doing their clinical placement aka final semester. youngkies finished his mpharm.

i guess what you are trying to say are

you are in the second batch of the programme

this time next year the programme would be fully accredited.



hopefully it wont take much longer than what they have promised you

@minshuen

i would suggest you to just settle for local pharmacy course and try to apply for postgraduate scholarship.

what if something unexpected happened during third year and you need some extra money? what if they withdraw your loan? what if they dont offer you the loan in the first place?

there is unlikely anyone would just lend you the money so that you could finish the course.

living overseas with a tight budget is not an enjoyable experience and working while studying is not easy as well. you are likely to be underpaid as well.

@minshuen

as i have no experience in applying jpa or ptptn loan, i am in no position to say anything. the possibility is always there, i have friends fail to get ptptn loan.

the main difference to me in completing a pharmacy degree oversea compare to locally is the option to TRY to stay there and dispense medications.

pharmacists in malaysia dont really get to dispense.

@Panda12

what list you are talking about?

@minshuen

salary refer first post.

the thing is, i have no idea about the competency of the graduates and i dont think you could compare directly that way.

local pharmacy courses are tailored according to malaysia heathcare system. at least that is one advantage. the essential drug list of each country, the dominant chronic disease etc can differ between each country.

i can see that curtin's pharmacy degree emphasizes more on compounding.

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Added on September 27, 2009, 5:52 pm@@Panda12

Chemistry > Biology & Maths > physics

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@igmroey

i would suggest you give monash a call. they are the only one could answer you. or you could try pm baoz

Okay. I dont get you seriously. why do you thinking of switching course here and there. Monash is not that cheap after all to start all over again.

if you are afraid that you are not good enough for bpharm and would like to have a go at bscience to build your confidence, chances are, you might end up changing from bscience to bpharm and back to bscience again in the end.

and most health care related degree are going to have similar units for first semester aka biology, chemistry, english etc.

unless you did not meet their min req for bpharm that is totally another story.

@Angelpoli

try to aim at least BBB for all subject - maths, chem , bio.

if you get an A for chemistry, it gonna help in your application as well.

i think you need to take IELTS or the other one to show your english proficiency.

@chocoholic221

tuition fee for U of Queensland looks normal to me. the amount you pay for 2 years in IMU is a lot though.

@baoz

good job on the first page.

@lys90

time for spoiler.


Does the Accreditation Committee accredit any international pharmacy schools?
Not directly, however some Australian pharmacy schools have ‘twinning programs’ offshore but these courses are not recognized by Australian and New Zealand registering bodies for direct entry into Australian pre-registration programs. These graduates contemplating working in Australia are still required to use the Examining Committee process on completion of their course

5. What happens if I go to a school that is not accredited?
The pharmacy registering authorities in all states and territories resolved in 2006 that they will not recognize a qualification from an unaccredited pharmacy school. You will not be registered to practice as a pharmacist.



APC (Australian Pharmacy Council) accredits pharmacy schools and programs intended to lead to registration as a pharmacist.

To qualify for registration as a pharmacist, a person must have completed the following:

• a pharmacy degree course recognised by the registering authority as a registrable qualification; and


• a period of pre-registration training and supervised practice.


google Competency Assessment of Overseas Pharmacists (CAOP) Examination etc if you are really interested.

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Added on December 12, 2009, 9:47 pm@Grono

ptptn + 40 k ?

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Added on December 12, 2009, 9:48 pmi forget the link... --> http://www.pharmacycouncil.org.au/index.html

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@Grono

what are you? spm leaver? there is no way you can do 2 + 2 with 40 k . the cost is 400 k . there is no 3 + 1

@Grono

i would say stick with STPM and try for pub uni and stop eye-ing overseas. that is not a league for you. mb ur children if you succeed. your parents have only 40 k and you want to spend 15k for a level?

unless you are offered a scholarship or JPA

@lys90

to answer your Q,
- i dont know.
- i dont think they do recognise any other country other than United Kingdom, Ireland or New Zealand.


Qualifications not Immediately Acceptable to Registration Authorities

If your qualifications do not immediately meet the Australian requirements, there are two options. The first is to complete an Australian pharmacy degree course at a recognised Australian university. The qualifications awarded by these institutions satisfy the formal academic requirements for registration by all State and Territory pharmacy registering authorities. If you enrol in an award course, you may gain credit for your overseas studies. Universities are self-governing and determine their own entry requirements for credit transfers. You will then need to complete a period of supervised practical training - conditions vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.

The second option is to undertake the examination process conducted by the Australian Pharmacy Examining Council Inc (APEC). Applicants need to formally apply for an assessment to determine their eligibility to undertake the examination process.

Applicants must have completed an approved pharmacy course which included a minimum component of the equivalent of three years of full time academic study. The applicant must also be registered or be eligible for registration as a pharmacist in the country in which the qualification was obtained.

http://www.australia-migration.net.au/page...Pharmacists/280

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Added on December 14, 2009, 2:24 am
3. Pharmacists Registered in all Overseas Countries
Pharmacists registered overseas (with the exception of New Zealand) are required to sit screening examinations conducted by the Australian Pharmacy Council before practising in Australia. You can obtain information on these examinations by contacting the Australian Pharmacy Council

Pharmacists wishing to register in Tasmania should note that the Pharmacy Board of Tasmania does not provide employment assistance. Any requirement for practical training periods must be attended to personally, as should longer term employment. For more information visit the Links Page.
this is specific to tasmania.

Qualified overseas other than in New Zealand, United Kingdom, Ireland, USA or Canada

The certification for registration of overseas qualified pharmacists is the responsibility of the Australian Pharmacy Examining Committee (APEC), which conducts the certification program on behalf of the Board, and on behalf of other Australian pharmacy registering authorities.
specific for NSW.
http://www.pbnsw.org.au/index.php?action=1

i think you have to take the exam to be a registered pharmacist if you have an oversea qualification

This post has been edited by jerk: Dec 14 2009, 02:24 AM

@silvis

lets see... i suppose you are the straight As student all this while? 3As is pretty good for me and should get you quite a few offers. just make sure you fulfill their minimum requirement. go to the respective uni website and look under A level. ( can you apply with only 3 subjects etc)

IMU Mpharm the 2+2 to strathclyde could be hard to get in if there is a lot of application and many try to get in as well. cheaper compare to 4 years in uk and many like you would like to work there i suppose.

anyway. just to let you know, you can consider nottingham 2+2 as an alternative to IMU

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Added on December 20, 2009, 10:10 pm@igmroey

you jump ship to IMU 2+2 now?

This post has been edited by jerk: Dec 20 2009, 10:10 PM

@silvis

anyway.. all purely based on my opinion since i neither studied at IMU or nottingham before.

put the ranking aside, nottingham malaysia campus definitely has a better environment for studying compared to IMU. i dont know about the facilities though.

and if your parents are deciding on the better uni based on opinions of others and not facts... chances are you are going to risk losing out the better deal.

you can apply without meeting the ABB requirement because nottingham told me so. not many can afford an expensive pharmacy degree and the competition between so many sch of pharmacy trying to get the limited students is contributing to more students are able to get into a pharmacy place. BUT they dont guarantee that you are able to graduate although you might get into a pharmacy course

@lee 1234

you need foundation/STPM/ A level/ MUFY etc to get into a pharmacy course. either one of them will do.


@silvis

apply asap. you might just missed the intake for 2010.

@xcstacy

for clarification , you mean you want to design cosmetic products? you dont have to be a pharmacist to do that. go do something related to the skin. employed by cosmetic company and come out with own cosmetic products is different.

@ShaneNg
is that a postgrad or what? i believe that is more to do with hospital aka specialization etc. hematology/oncology, infectious diseases, ambulatory care, nutrition support, drug information, critical care, pediatrics, etc. but at least wikipedia has different things to say when it comes to clinical pharmacy and hospital pharmacy.

look at the course structure.

@159

i would suggest you to go for stpm and save every cash available for the pharmacy programme. after all, you dont need straight A to get into ucsi pharmacy course.

the max loan if you are taking pharmacy at ucsi is 80k from ptptn. based on 2 years ago.

@lee 1234

i would say it much comes down to whether you want to try your luck in uk or not. experience in terms of conducting a pharmacy course, definitely ucsi has more experience. a number of good lecturers in ucsi have left though. i have no idea about the lecturers in segi.

@ShaneNg

i dont really have the answer to your Q.

@xcstacy

i am sure the discovery of cosmetic products is more towards dermatology aka skin. you could try Cosmetic Dermatology etc. we do learn about dermatological products in pharmacy course but little about the discovery or the science behind it. pharmacy is more towards application of proprietary products

This post has been edited by jerk: Jan 7 2010, 11:42 PM

@lee 1234

what i am trying to say is ucsi has years of experience in conducting pharmacy course while segi is still new. locally, of course ucsi has better reputation compare to segi.

there is no such thing as international certificate. only how competent you are when you graduate.

@igmroey

i think mpharm is a good option considering pharmacy is well establish over in uk. after all, you are already a student there and probably has paid the fees as well. 2+2 option?

if for any reason you still want monash, just go for it. the only major difference i can think of is the exposure over in uk and probably the facilities and resources you have.

@polaris91

if you are coming over to curtin australia, i could help a little.

anyway, i am not sure about other state but in western australia, pharmacy opportunity is pretty saturated at least in terms of community. beware of those who keep telling you that pharmacy is in great demand. quite a number of qualified pharmacist is trying hard to secure a full time job.