Fuiyoh.. Alot of upgrading here.. Weber la, injection la.. Long time no come here, so many different.. My slow tortoise buat malu jer....

I think you installed it like this, won't have any effect. As the route too long. While I didn't see how you install it down there.. For saga/iswara, I found it have a shorter way from bumper to engine bay. Just remove a 10" size bolt near by the left side bumper which connect the banana leaf. So the route won't be 'lipat'. I suggest better you remove that CAI hose as you don't want it melt on your cylinder head cover. If i were you, I will get a longer 'trunk' for the air filter as the trunk is too short. It still suck hot air although you installed 10 cai hose... After you installed it, have you retune you AFR and emission? For me, better you upgrade your exhaust system first only you upgrade your intake. Cause although it have alot air go in, but it still lean and the exhaust gases didn't come out smoothly..


For those who really wanna upgrade a 4g13p power, I can tell you guy some realistic modified which it really useful and confirm power increase. It more worth that spend on minor accessories which didn't give real power increasing.

Need to jeck up my car baru can snap the picture.. I always at PJ as I studying there.. And maybe you seen the car is not mind.

For me, normal road user which installed WEBER, it really a silly upgrade.. Not to insult for those who using weber..

For 4g13p modding cheap and problem free,

1. Iridium Plug with better plug cable. Not those plug cable which claimed by itself for performance. Do more google for it about plug cable. Doesn't mean thick is good as the thick only the insulator.
2. Re-tune the carburetor.. Modify the main jet.
3. Change distributor inner rotor.
4. 1.6 Flywheel with 1.6 clutch
5. Exhaust system must upgrade. Short route 4-2-1, 1.7 mandrel piping and straight flow muffler.
5. Diet if the driver is heavy...

I dare to said, these setup can easily tapau a weber 4g13 engine..

dam*... My car too famous edi..

I refer to the passenger left. Mean the location opposite the battery..

cannot... but i believe, i can tapau gilbert and also yewwing.. And hardly can do tuning is do what i mentioned include weber.

This post has been edited by singchaii: Mar 22 2009, 09:59 PM

But do you think a normal 4g13 carb, can make the output same like weber?

you can.. furthermore, installing weber you need to find a right installer.. Another thing is, there is limited part for weber...

I heard that too.. Hahaha... Still don't really like weber.. kakaka....

dun wan.. my saga now give me enough power... even my 1.6 sentra also didn't have pick up like my saga. hehe.

I where got so free like you all.. Haha... When I ajak, you guy never reply me.. Now wan pulak.. Sekali I tembak lu baru u tau...

Haha.. Nice chat with you too man...

Nah!! I got chat with you during last time TT... Sekali boikot you baru tau.. Hahaha.....

BY the way, Blackpc, me baru 82kg lerr I believe here someone is more heavy that me. Orang yang selalu complain I tak yum cha dengan dia tu..

If you just changed gear oil, make sure using a correct gear oil. After that, adjust your clutch... After done this two things and still the same, I suspect the synchronizer is kong.

sure boh.. based on his size which I spotted him at BTS, can hit 120kg ler... Wahahahha..... That why i wonder why he absorber kong so fast...

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Added on March 23, 2009, 8:54 pmYou're wrong man.. I still lose to a saga knight which own by my colleague at my workshop. His engine not old enough? Saga knight man!! It depend how you tuning the engine and do what is necessary. Doesn't mean everything can fit the engine.. Just like some owner BOT their ride but they don't even know whether the engine can support or not. End up, losing to a NA ride...

This post has been edited by singchaii: Mar 23 2009, 08:54 PM

AFR only install at EFI car but not Carb car.. AFR gauge is more expensive compare with other.

Vacuum meter is the best choice. Make sure you install it correctly. Wrong installation by using wrong by pass, will affect the engine performance yet the reading is not accurate.

I dunno how much it cost cause normally in my workshop, we usually call customer change to a recond gear box. Find those shop which do overhaul gearbox if u wan change the synchonizer only.

for ur info, the 1.6 taxi is not CPS version. Only normal campro version.

From I get, saga doesn't have campro CPS.. Saga 1.6 is just normal campro engine.

For the LMST, not all SC showroom having it. Go to some big showroom and they might help you to get one..

From what I guess, is a tactic of proton where the 1.6 campro saga is only for taxi while it not sell to public. Cause if the car is use for taxi, they can buy it cheaper. A normal 1.3 campro saga already around Rm37k till RM42k. If they is selling for 1.6 campro version for saga, what the price would be? RM47k? RM50k? A Persona 1.6 can get it at Rm45k, while Gen-2 IAFM can get at RM53k and at last waja cps can get at 61k. So you rather get a gen2 or a persona if there is selling 1.6 saga for around RM45-RM50k?

Manage to smoke her? Does the M6 stopping at traffic light or wat? I sat on a BMW 6 Series before which owned by my uncle.. I can said normal on the road car is not easily gonna to catch this beast up if the driver intend to play.. 0-100kmh only less that 7 second while a saga, 7 second can achieve what speed? Furthermore, M6 is with V10 engine while Normal 6 series just V8 engine.. I still remember the feeling after the Ipoh selatan toll when my uncle shift to sport suspension with full throttle.. Can feel damn hard to breath due to the force!

This post has been edited by singchaii: Apr 9 2009, 08:18 PM

Why you said so? Mind to tell me why? Unless it was a Auto transmission..

Why the exhaust gases came out too fast is not that good? When we need power, the Mixture enter to combustion chamber must be fast while the exhaust gases out must as fast as the exhaust valve open. First time I heard that exhaust gases come out too fast is not that good.. So you expect that exhaust gases still trap into the combustion chamber? So when the mixture add with exhaust gases will gain more high combustion? For your info, swirling bullet create more back pressure, while S-flow also created back pressure. I still curious on what you mean exhaust gases come out too fast is not that good.. Exhaust gases must be out once the exhaust out is open or in other way, after the combustion happen, the gases must be out. Tell me why the exhaust gases cannot be out too fast? If like that, all people should decrease the size of piping instead increase the piping for better flow out for the exhaust gas?