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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! V16, V16* Saga Iswara Enthusiast

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juniorkirk
post Mar 22 2009, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 22 2009, 10:38 PM)
I heard that too.. Hahaha... Still don't really like weber.. kakaka....
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u name him any weber's part A-Z, he can get for you... brows.gif like that its time for mem-piggyback-kan your car d...
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post Mar 22 2009, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(juniorkirk @ Mar 22 2009, 10:42 PM)
u name him any weber's part A-Z, he can get for you...  brows.gif like that its time for mem-piggyback-kan your car d...
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dun wan.. my saga now give me enough power... even my 1.6 sentra also didn't have pick up like my saga. hehe.
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post Mar 22 2009, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 22 2009, 09:37 PM)
Need to jeck up my car baru can snap the picture.. I always at PJ as I studying there.. And maybe you seen the car is not mind.
For me,  normal road user which installed WEBER, it really a silly upgrade.. Not to insult for those who using weber..

For 4g13p modding cheap and problem free,

1. Iridium Plug with better plug cable. Not those plug cable which claimed by itself for performance. Do more google for it about plug cable. Doesn't mean thick is good as the thick only the insulator.
2. Re-tune the carburetor.. Modify the main jet.
3. Change distributor inner rotor.
4. 1.6 Flywheel with 1.6 clutch
5. Exhaust system must upgrade. Short route 4-2-1, 1.7 mandrel piping and straight flow muffler.
5. Diet if the driver is heavy...  laugh.gif

I dare to said, these setup can easily tapau a weber 4g13 engine..
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rclxub.gif bro what is main jet? how much to modify tat thing?
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post Mar 22 2009, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 22 2009, 10:45 PM)
dun wan.. my saga now give me enough power... even my 1.6 sentra also didn't have pick up like my saga. hehe.
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saga super-light ma... sentra super heavy... but touch wood... if a sentra crash into a saga... sweat.gif i dont feel like saying...

QUOTE(Kenneth225 @ Mar 22 2009, 10:54 PM)
rclxub.gif bro what is main jet? how much to modify tat thing?
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change jetting.... not expensive... should be less than 50...
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post Mar 22 2009, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(juniorkirk @ Mar 22 2009, 11:00 PM)
saga super-light ma... sentra super heavy... but touch wood... if a sentra crash into a saga...  sweat.gif i dont feel like saying...
change jetting.... not expensive... should be less than 50...
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drool.gif after changing it can feel the diff?
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post Mar 22 2009, 11:09 PM

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can... but FC higher... brows.gif
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post Mar 22 2009, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(juniorkirk @ Mar 22 2009, 11:09 PM)
can... but FC higher... brows.gif
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sweat.gif ngam power increase fc sure rise/ btw wan to knw power zone 4-2-1 n normal 4-2-1 frm exhaust shop got alot of diff? performance n price?
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post Mar 22 2009, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Kenneth225 @ Mar 22 2009, 11:15 PM)
sweat.gif ngam power increase fc sure rise/ btw wan to knw power zone 4-2-1 n normal 4-2-1 frm exhaust shop got alot of diff? performance n price?
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performance slightly same... cant really feel it...
price , you can notice it... when u pay...
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post Mar 22 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Kenneth225 @ Mar 22 2009, 09:09 PM)
wub.gif  bro would like to knw wat is the modified tat really increase performance.. thx
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speaking like the long lost mr sing @_@
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post Mar 22 2009, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(godspeeds @ Mar 22 2009, 11:37 PM)
speaking like the long lost mr sing @_@
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you come back already ar? brows.gif how's your turbo-charge fiber car? drool.gif
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QUOTE(juniorkirk @ Mar 22 2009, 11:42 PM)
you come back already ar?  brows.gif how's your turbo-charge fiber car?  drool.gif
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very slow ..
as my turbo -> brand KIRK
have been taken out lolZ...
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post Mar 22 2009, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(godspeeds @ Mar 22 2009, 11:45 PM)
@_@
very slow ..
as my turbo -> brand KIRK
have been taken out lolZ...
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why take out la... brows.gif
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post Mar 23 2009, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(juniorkirk @ Mar 22 2009, 01:34 PM)
one more thing... wira gearbox different from saga gearbox... if i not mistaken... brows.gif even same 4g13/15P, but layout is the different...
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mouting different only... inside all the same...

QUOTE(JJTam @ Mar 22 2009, 02:08 PM)
Erm Sifoo all ,is this routing correct?

user posted image
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I choose the left side because no relay and wiring kacau.
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sudah salah bai... dun make so much cornering... since u are using open pod filter, best route ur cai hose as straight as possible... but routing cai hose across the engine bay heats up the air inside da hose before reaching the filter.... so, useless also... haha....

QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 22 2009, 08:59 PM)
I think you installed it like this, won't have any effect. As the route too long. While I didn't see how you install it down there.. For saga/iswara, I found it have a shorter way from bumper to engine bay. Just remove a 10" size bolt near by the left side bumper which connect the banana leaf. So the route won't be 'lipat'. I suggest better you remove that CAI hose as you don't want it melt on your cylinder head cover. If i were you, I will get a longer 'trunk' for the air filter as the trunk is too short. It still suck hot air although you installed 10 cai hose... After you installed it, have you retune you AFR and emission? For me, better you upgrade your exhaust system first only you upgrade your intake. Cause although it have alot air go in, but it still lean and the exhaust gases didn't come out smoothly..
For those who really wanna upgrade a 4g13p power, I can tell you guy some realistic modified which it really useful and confirm power increase. It more worth that spend on minor accessories which didn't give real power increasing.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 22 2009, 09:37 PM)
Need to jeck up my car baru can snap the picture.. I always at PJ as I studying there.. And maybe you seen the car is not mind.
For me,  normal road user which installed WEBER, it really a silly upgrade.. Not to insult for those who using weber..

For 4g13p modding cheap and problem free,

1. Iridium Plug with better plug cable. Not those plug cable which claimed by itself for performance. Do more google for it about plug cable. Doesn't mean thick is good as the thick only the insulator.
2. Re-tune the carburetor.. Modify the main jet.
3. Change distributor inner rotor.
4. 1.6 Flywheel with 1.6 clutch
5. Exhaust system must upgrade. Short route 4-2-1, 1.7 mandrel piping and straight flow muffler.
5. Diet if the driver is heavy...  laugh.gif

I dare to said, these setup can easily tapau a weber 4g13 engine..
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sifoo... notworthy.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 22 2009, 10:38 PM)
I heard that too.. Hahaha... Still don't really like weber.. kakaka....
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i agree dat weber is over rated...
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post Mar 23 2009, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Mar 23 2009, 12:01 AM)
mouting different only... inside all the same...
i agree dat weber is over rated...
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engine layout different lor... sweat.gif

everyone say weber over-rated... hmm.gif

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post Mar 23 2009, 12:09 AM

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hai bro singchaii.. long time no see u posting here? about the gearbox? how much it will cost to change them.. very super hard to put in gear now days..
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post Mar 23 2009, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(eXpert @ Mar 23 2009, 01:09 AM)
hai bro singchaii.. long time no see u posting here? about the gearbox? how much it will cost to change them.. very super hard to put in gear now days..
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if ur car is manual~
then try change gear oil 1st~
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baru jer tukar awal bln nie.. sebelum tukar kadang2 jer yg susah nak masuk gear tapi bila dah tukar masuk minyak gear baru samapi 2.5L makin buat hal la pulak.. tgh dok mendaki bukit nak masuk gear rendah teteba xleh nak tukar.. time kat trafik light lg la sakit jiwa kdg nak kene guner gear 3 nak gerak..
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post Mar 23 2009, 12:43 AM

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got masuk salah gearoil or not ?
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about that im not sure.. it cost me rm38 for the gear oil and workman ship.. maybe after get my paycheck ill go to other workshop and this time i buy the oil my self... how many liter need for iswara 1.3?
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only 2liltres will do~
do u remember wat rating is d gear oil ? smile.gif

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