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 ATI Radeon HD 4890 RV790 Launches April 6, ETA: first-second week of APRIL.

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post Mar 9 2009, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Mar 9 2009, 03:14 PM)
4890 compete with gtx 285
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But ATI famous with its driver problem.. Maybe It cant challenge gtx 285... yet.
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post Mar 9 2009, 04:10 PM

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I'm using 4870 512MB and with a Full HD 24 inch LCD.. With everything set to high COD4 lacked after playing it for 30 minutes non stop, Fear2 and GRID will start to lack in 15 minutes time.

That's why I'm thinking of changing my gc to GTX 260 / HD4870 1gb / CF HD4870 512MB.

Which one is better?
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post Mar 18 2009, 02:55 PM

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Yupe, plus the GTX 260 Sonic OC performance is on par with the stock GTX 280 and beat the crap out HD 4870.
Proof? I own a Sapphire HD 4870 512MB, one of my friend own a Toxic 1GB, and another guy own GTX 260 sonic. I can tell you that in higher reso, Sonic really performed well. Price per quality ratio, I think Sonic is the best for time being plus got nice cooler also.

But, I maybe gonna wait for the HD4890 reviews and definitely gonna grab the custom cooled version which will arrive somewhere around May or Jun. I think it's gonna be the best bang for my money if it really can outperform HD4870 by 20% different w/out any problem.
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post Mar 28 2009, 04:04 PM

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Guys, planning to buy the OC version from Zhen Wei, but it's still an uncertainty because of the stock arrival maybe a bit late la. I wanna use it for the Cyberfusion Lan Party, I'm sure most of you guys heard bout that already.
But the thing is, only the non OC version will be available before the party.

So, is it the same technology? or will the oc version have a better cooler? Or can one just overclock it and take it to the same level as the overclocked version by not harming the card~ Dilemma here. help pls~

anybody have any idea about it?

Edit: can Acbel M8 PSU can support this card?


Added on March 28, 2009, 4:11 pm
QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 28 2009, 03:49 PM)
so ur selling the 4890 now? brows.gif
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Unless he got his hand on both the 90 cards and CFed them, he wont sell it.......................... yet. That's my guess la. Simple, his main reason is to test it tongue.gif


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post Apr 2 2009, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(area61 @ Apr 1 2009, 09:57 PM)
lol.but how many can get ti 1 ghz?i dont think all chips are capable of doing that.my guess a stock hd4890 will be on par with a gtx275.just plus minus few frames like how the hd4870 1gb and gtx260 fair up
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Hurm.. I tried to overclock HD4890 to 1GHz but I can only reach 970/1170 and it's pretty stable since I can play GRID, COD4 and HAWX for 3 hours straight. Never tried with Crysis....... yet~

Edit: with the fan running at 100%, I can play for 3 hours straight with and the load temp is just around 63-66c
with the fan running at 90%, 3 hours straight, load temp = 72c

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post Apr 2 2009, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Apr 2 2009, 03:37 AM)
100% ?
noise acceptable ?
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Nope, it's very loud and annoying. But, since I'm using a headphone I don't even hear the sound while playing all the games I mentioned before. biggrin.gif

So, now I'm trying to reduce the fan 5% for every 3 hours of gaming so that I can find the best fan speed that will suit my overclocked gc. Will post it here later..

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post Apr 2 2009, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 2 2009, 09:10 AM)
dude
toms uses only this games
assasin creed
cod 4
crysis
ut3

so game dependent

anyways got two cards and testing now..
driver still immature and the cards are hotter and slower than my gtx285
waiting for new driver but so far on my gaming requirement which is very high it is currently slow
from what i see no diff than a gtx260 oc which i tested previously.
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Bro cstkl, since you are an expert in this field, just wanna ask how far you overclocked it?
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post Apr 2 2009, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 2 2009, 09:45 AM)
fan set max
overclock via cc atm.

riva tuner is buggy with vista 64.

the reason i was curious with the hd4890 is actually the burst speed on mem

if u guys actually had hd4000 series.. u would know that overclocking the core doesnt give that much of a boost compared to mem.

but for some reason the hd4890 does..
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Me also having the same problem with Riva tuner but I'm using Vista 32. So end up using CC to OC it.

Right now I'm trying to push it to 970/1180 and testing its stability. Still trying. Maybe will post the result after this.

Curious to know your overclocking result and your review about this card's performance.

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post Apr 2 2009, 04:03 PM

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Just finished overclocking HD4890 to 990/1170

Test it with Crysis FPS
1920x1080, all set to very high, 4xaa

Result.. FPS = 18FPS - 23FPS
Fan speed = 100%
Load temp = 69c
and I took the FPS reading while playing in one of heaviest shooting scene.
Played it for one hour straight. No blue screen..


Somebody asked for the details on the driver version that comes with the card for the HD4890 GC. here's the info about the driver.

Driver Packaging Version 8.592-090303a-077127E
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 8.01.01.882
2D Driver File Path /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/Class/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0001
Direct3D Version 8.14.10.0647
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.8543
Catalyst™ Control Center Version 2009.0303.2224.40202

EDIT: very tired.. and will continue OCing later tonight.


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post Apr 2 2009, 09:32 PM

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Having a hard time pushing the 4890 to 1GHz, maybe I'm not that good in Overclocking GC or maybe I should wait for a proper driver for the card. Anyways, for me, this card have a remarkable overclocking ability (I'm not comparing it's performance with any cards). But pity the driver is not out yet.


QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 2 2009, 08:15 PM)
well just saw the zotac gtx275 amp version posted

the clocks are exactly the same other than than the shader compared to the gtx285amp
but its higher than the stock gtx285 for core and mem, while shader is the same.


this is really interesting

hope the gtx275 doesnt have a lower core/shader ratio.
if not that heck its going to clock as good and perform as well .
only limitation is the mem amount for high res. compared to gtx285.

looks like gtx285 is going to be eol folks.


Added on April 2, 2009, 8:16 pm
that guy was

i was just telling my view on my hardware config.

itching to try the gtx 275 now..kekek
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Wow, now that's pretty impressive. Well, from what I read in the reviews before,the GTX 275 was launched with one sole reason only, to battle off the Radeon HD 4890 and I got to say they done it pretty well.
But need to know the price 1st. Do anybody have any info about the price for GTX275 in Malaysia?


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post Apr 3 2009, 09:06 PM

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Well Sapphire already listed HD4890 1GB in their HD4800 drivers list but the driver is not available for time being. Guess maybe in one week time it'll be available..



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post Apr 3 2009, 10:18 PM

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hurm.. If I were you, I will sell my 4870 and buy another 4890. Just my 2 cents.
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post Apr 4 2009, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(valent @ Apr 4 2009, 02:22 AM)
My idle temp for 4890 is

61'c Idle
74'c Load

is the idle normal ? i see websites review their idle all mostly 51'c
anyone that got Sapphire 4890 can give feedback on their temps? thanks!
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YUpe it's perfectly normal for the card because the fan speed never goes above 32%. I also asked about the same problem before, You can refer to my previous post few pages back.


Added on April 4, 2009, 8:45 am
QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 4 2009, 01:11 AM)
Bleh, I'd prefer adding another 4890 and put it as the first GPU before crossfire with my existing 4870. It's not like a huge boost selling my 4870 and buy 4890. 4890 is only 10% more performance comparing it to 4870.
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Hurm. Ok now, boosting your performance is one thing and getting it done w/out spending a lot of money is another thing.
Since 4870's price is dropping (and will drop again in future), I think it's better to sell off your GC now rather than later.


Anyway, I think 4890's price will drop again because Nvidia launched a better card at the same price.

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post Apr 4 2009, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Apr 4 2009, 11:49 AM)
well some reviews showed that 4890 pawn 275...
check techpowerup review...erm
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It's actually depends on the driver for the HD4890 to shine. I'm not sure that there will be a huge difference but for sure the difference will be something to talk about. If after the Driver release the HD4890 still doesn't shine then just wait for another price slash. tongue.gif
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post Apr 5 2009, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(blindbox @ Apr 5 2009, 06:48 PM)
Hmm good report then. What about 100% load(at max temps)? Same fan speed? xbitlabs reports same noise level.
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I have both cards and it didn't produce the same level of noise. At 100% load 4890 produce higher noise level.
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post Apr 6 2009, 03:23 AM

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QUOTE(Neo8663 @ Apr 6 2009, 01:05 AM)
how about full load for 4890??
garage sales always make me crazy at the price
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I'd tested two HD4890 GCs and I got the same result for both. The Idle temp should be around 60-63c and the load temp should be around 71-76c.
But in my opinion the temp is that high just because the fan speed never reached above 40% even at load. Stays at 23%-35% most of the time. I changed the fan speed manually and I'm not worried about the temp anymore.

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post Apr 6 2009, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Apr 6 2009, 10:47 AM)
hmm.gif, quite hot for idle temp... Palit Sonic Turbo HD4870 512MB gDDR5 on idle only 51°C ~ 53°C, whilst on load... shoots up to 60°C ~ 63°C on 60% fan speed...
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The card you own comes with custom cooler with it, that's why the temp is lower than this HD4890. smile.gif

QUOTE(piumiu @ Apr 6 2009, 10:55 AM)
as in my case. i have a lot of fans so it does not make a big difference in terms of fan noise.
50-60% noise is around the same. thats why i stick to 60%.
but i do feel the heat from the casing compared to the 4870 and 260 even at night time.
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Piumiu, I set the fan to 45%, the temp didn't exceed 76% after 3 hours of playing crysis plus it won't be that noisy. You can give it a try and let us know the result.

QUOTE(rsangel @ Apr 6 2009, 11:01 AM)
according to reviews....>60% is like hair dryer =__="
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60%= it's ok, the noise level is quite low.
90%=Min hair dryer speed. tongue.gif (in my case I compared it with my sister's hairdryer and it has 3 speeds) whistling.gif
But, for me, you only need to manually set your fan above 80% if you're planning to overclock it.

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post Apr 6 2009, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(dudey @ Apr 6 2009, 04:31 PM)
Any idea which brand of 4890 is suitable for Overclocking, Good Warranty Service and Overall Quality.

I don't really mind the price as long as its good for overclocking.
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Try Sapphire. I think it's the most reliable brand for ATI cards. I'm using Sapphire to~
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Apr 8 2009, 02:42 AM)
some nice info on HD4890 : http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=90117&page=2

1) Two users that bump their vgpu to 1.35(stock : 1.31) able to hit 1000Mhz core clock (im not sure either they have golden chip or not, but worth a try)
2) 1200Mhz memory speed (4800Mhz) is achievable with air cooling.

they use VoltageFactory to bump the vgpu : http://www.awardfabrik.de/forum/showthread.php?t=5707

good luck to HD4890 user brows.gif
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Pergh, I don't even know how to do those things so, I'm not dare enough to do it. tongue.gif
Will try to google and gain some knowledge about it anyway.

Btw, I contacted the Sapphire Tech Support Center to ask them about the HD4890 driver and they replied to me saying that the driver will be available sometime this week. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 8 2009, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(blindbox @ Apr 8 2009, 05:33 PM)
http://twitter.com/CatalystMaker

Catalyst 9.4 tomorrow.
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Now that's what I've been waiting for a long time. Can't wait to download it tomorrow.

QUOTE(metsatsu @ Apr 8 2009, 06:56 PM)
well maybe for HAWX owners, they will be delighted smile.gif
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Well, I'm one of them. rclxms.gif
Will try it later.

EDIT: AFAIK,tweaking voltage will not covered in the warranty if the card died during the process right? I don't know why my friend kept saying that it's covered. Do anybody have experience or any info about this stuff. Thanks~

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