sorry, if you mean the entire series, its not just *almost* rm200

To quazacolt

it was from stage 1 to stage 3 plus extra stage... excluded project d(not out yet) i brought about several years ago almost 200ringgit... i'm not very sure the current price tag for the entire series.....

to those who think i'm spoiling the anime industry i dont think i'm doing much harm to it... i use it for my own usage and i dont distribute or sale it to other... and i dont go shop to buy pirated disc

to Stormy001_M1A2
oh my, u are a little too harsh over my statement.... can't be help, i'm really disapointed to those original sub which is absulotely a half asses job(oni profit in mind) as compare to the fan sub which they truly respected the anime not for profit.... and some original even dl it from the fan site these is wat i call stealing other ppl work and they get profit from it.... correct if i'm wrong....

Though i'm not going to say that i'm proud to dl it but i dont feel shame to say i dl it....

and sori if i have offended any1... and respect u guys for supporting the industry

good news for anime lover?...

- you just bought bootleg/pirated, hate to break it to you

- keyword: YOU, and imagine others thinking the same, if not worse (another keyword: malaysia) not much harm you say? google up anime industry news. studios are falling, anime quality dropping, amount of anime released on the decline. sure, keep it up. (oh and your initial d? yeah pirated. and quite frankly, it doesnt matter if it is or isnt when you're having that kinda attitude)

/sensing kolos incoming

I guess we need to tell anybody here and outside that all anime dvd/cd sold in malaysia are kasutkaki.

Amazon is expensive...? Well, okay, they ARE most of the time. You can always try rightstuf.inc though, they can be really cheap, an online anime merchant founded by anime fans for anime fans, but their shipping rates is much more expensive though if you're thinking of buying singular but effectively much cheaper if ya buy more than 2....

Only two problem though, foreign customer needs to either scan\photograph (I used a webcam ) their cards and any documents (invoice from amazon is acceptable) that helps confirming that their billing address is real. (they only ship to your billing address as stated in your card - billing addreess on document must be same with billing address of card)

The second problem is they tend to mark the price really low on the custom declaration form (automaticly), like US$ 10 bucks for a big boxset that is worth US$ 50-90++... So, remember to leave a note to remind them to write a higher and believable price or just the exact price of the product (if the product price plus shipping does not exceed the RM 500 limit) ~ I got one large parcel held up by custom before because it was too cheap to believe.

well...i realise it all bootleg or pirated from the begining..i oni bought it..becoz lazy to dl...i kinda hate those halfarse sub..

to Quazacolt

i purchase a bootleg and it cause almost RM200

how do we identify it wether it is bootleg or a ori1

hmm.... it does have nice packaging and it have kinda original licinse stripe on it like those on orignial movies... if i'm not mistaken i bought it in 2003/04.... and it is a vcd version and it is a cantonese version.... the packages torn apart in 2 years time and i lost some of the series too....

i don't mind having extra info and i hope u will share some of the info cause... i do have fren brought original such Renma 1/2, tenjou tenge, dragon ball and etc.... they have hologram sticker attached to it not like last time....
and i do support original TVB series... much more affordable

- nice package and *KINDA* original license stripe means shit

- and lol hologram tulen sticker

- TVB != anime, this is /AS/

as for ur question:

US license
http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmg...tem/84585/4/0/0
pretty fukken cheap, but they dont have the coin given out to those lucky draw bastards so i skipped this lol!
and per dvd (or 2 IINM) including everything is very VERY rare. this is pretty much considered a low production release and it includes nothing (as in no extras) but subtitles.

Japanese license
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E7%8B%BC%E3%81%A8...8274284&sr=8-37
more expensive compared to english license, however, you'll get more out of what you purchase in terms of packaging, more "collector's value" with the included extras/physical items or even merchandises.

price breakdown:
36 usd is aprox RM126 for 13 episodes dual layer DVD

5k yen is aprox RM200, for 3 episodes DVD

sadly, bootleg is consider 'legal' in most asia nation

a fren of mine bring a lot of bootleg anime to sg.. and pass the checking @ KLIA and SG airport w/o any problem

keyword: considered

and no, it is not legal. customs being ignorant is one thing, it doesnt make an illegal item legal.

hmm then same applicable to speedy?

added, I did see some KDN enforcement come in to do the checking @ some speedy branch. but they didn't rampas anything

This post has been edited by miloy2k: Mar 11 2010, 11:28 AM

yeap. lol

should 'local legal' lol

that word reminds me of a certain idiot troll person who came here parading his "local ori, legal" anime merchandises

xD those people at the video stores still have the balls to say " yes its ORI, Government censorship board approved "

Of course, they are 'legal' since the government censorship board already allegedly 'filtered' and approved 'em for sell, licensed authorization of release doesn't concern them at all.

As long as no one is taking claim on that certain release with a proper and authorized license or distribution rights, then the government won't bother with these release. Once a company bought the license or obtain distribution rights to a certain show, those other 'Ori' would automaticly vanish from the shelves unless those are obvious bootlegs that are sold a pasar malam stall and obvious bootleg video shop.

Example: Shounen Omnyouji, Kekkaishi, and Kamen Rider Dragon Knight from PMP. You won't see Sp**dy selling 'other' version of those release by other company because they are legally claimed by PMP and previous 'Ori' and unauthorized releases of these same products would disappear as well, well, in time... Sp**dy would be the first to act. Other store would probably try to sell 'em as quick as possible because it would hurt them more.

That's the way our locals here do their stuff, 'by the book' and there are always loopholes to be exploit.

Japanese anime production company, their local authorized distributed and their middleman the licensing agents are way too outdated (or used to, I wonder if they are too late to claim back what was their's), since they prefer to sell their license to other foreign companies to be license\distribute instead of dirtying their own hands to get the job done. Selling the license would spare them the risk and the commiment since they won't be spending any of their money and would be sitting down enjoying the $$$ instead.

No 'stingy' local company would dare go to them since the japanese are very demanding, with the big mess like separate licenses for the anime itself, the soundtrack (OP, ED, BGM), merchadising, copyrighted characters and ect. ~ The Opening song for Skullman "hikari no machi" by TOKIO was left out from the US region 1 released by Funimation (it was edited with some clips and some BGM) because it's a separate entity and it is authorized to be use in Japan only on the part of the Japanese production company, Funimation would have to deal with the music company instead if they want to include that song and probably ending up paying more.

So, imagine that the Japanese've learnt their lesson and start coming down here themselves (like what the americans did - WB, Fox and ect) and finding an appropriate partner locally to create a joint venture (sole distributor, licensing company, whatever) that will help them reclaim their products and make way for future products, then we'll finally see the government taking a more active role to cleanse the local anime market - foreign+local joint venture = investment = money = legal action...

lol remind me of my fren coz buy odex ori anime but its quality download version have a better quality :

well if kdn rush no action will take to them.

how many nation in asia does bother of this

They all bother, by circumstance only... If something is known to be 'illegal' and properly notified then they would bother to take action (ordered to do so), but if that one thing is an 'unknown' and there is no Notice to look out for it nor there is any particular legal claim by any party related, then they wouldn't be bother to do anything. Jumping to conclusion that one boxset of DVD might be bootleg (paranoid much?) would lead to a lot work and head will spin, why bother?

That one set of DVD would probably be hard to determine if it's legal or bootleg- it might be possibly legal in a country but illegal in another country, but there's no way to differentiate them without going through a proper processing channel...

Imagine this, in a perfect world where rules are strictly and properly enforced and the government officer cared and bothered -

a)The custom detained a DVD set at an airport, sent the owner off giving the fella some documents and asking him to wait for further confirmation while they process it.

b)The custom then sent the DVD to a processing channel, it's taken apart, the wrappers torn off, the box and the disc are carefully check for chemical residue (bootleg used cheap glue betwen the dvd and the protective membrane ).

c)They cross-referenced the information from the invoice and the dvd set by communicating with the original merchant and the original distributor to determine the originality.

d)They probably screen it, to check any unappropriate stuff (for the sake of morale and religion and ect). ~ probably decide to confiscate it if it doesn't meet their standard.

e)The whole processing would probably take alot of time since they cared and bothered and detained every parcels (all are potential candidates) to determine if they are legit or bootleg.

g)Voila, 4-12 weeks later (or more if counting public holidays), the poor fella finally received a call or a letter telling him to pick his genuine original dvd set at a certain address and reminded to pay a certain fee and filled a certain form and stick 'Ori' stickers on them to prove that it's legal and original. Or it's consficated for being to violence and it's against the law and furthermore it will from now on be banned and so the copy will be rid off. Or it's being determined as a bootleg. it will be confiscated and act as an evidence as the government as a representative of the public and the copyright and license holder will proceed to prosecute the fella...




So.... Since processing takes time, and pretty much a chore, why bother doing so? And don't forget that people already complaint whenever their stuff are detained, then going through the so called 'rape' process, and possibly then tainted with a shiny 'Ori' sticker and a big filtered and approved sticker and not to mentioned that they have to pay a certain fee to let the government do that. The stickers was an idea created to simplify the identification of an original release and a bootleg but all it did was worsen the matter...

And what if the DVD set turned out to be a parallel import, a grey product licensed only to be sold at a certain country, but with a simple click online it flew across the globe to another country that is outside the legal regional licensing agreement. It might already been licensed in said country, and the existance of this foreign DVD set goes against the agreement between the local distributor and the copyright owner, more head will probably spin... So why bother?

So...

second that plus the reason why the custom @ KLIA and SG dun bother bout what he bring is due to the yada2 sticker+the packaging of the anime she bring over. Pirate one dun have that