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rekamaju
post Sep 8 2011, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(phra09 @ Sep 3 2011, 07:31 PM)
Well i haven't got my policy yet, probably by next week i suppose

from my understanding, the 600k is medical coverage such as hospitalization, specialist treatment, surgery etc

is it a good plan? is the coverage for my medical reasonable ?
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Most probably You have a life policy ( maybe whole life which gives guaranteed & projected profits or more probably investment-link life insurance which allows you to invest and get higher returns)

The medical benefit is a rider which is attached to your policy and paid by your investment account

Note that your medical plan itself does not give you any earnings, it is from your life account

What medical benefits you should enjoy from your policy will be listed on your policy, depending on the Plan type you/your agent have chosen for you

To get a better idea, click here

http://zurichmalaysia.wordpress.com/medical-card/

Some people choose to have a separate stand-alone medical card, some choose to package it with a life policy

Both have pros and cons, but I personally think, packaging it like what you have done, is generally a better idea
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post Sep 23 2011, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(phra09 @ Sep 23 2011, 06:44 PM)
Hmm I call the callcentre and they seem confused about this too.

I'm being deducted rm180 on 6/9, which is one month installment.
I even got a receipt via post from prudential

My agent told me they will deduct another rm180 once approved. N if approved, the first installment is processing fee.
Otherwise, if reject they will send me cheque.

I find this quite weird too
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Agree with chew_ronnie. Why medical? If you are what insurers say "sub-standard" risks, maybe be due to weight
or medical history, I suggest you grab whatever comes your way first, and then only, look around and
try to improve your coverage ( ps reconfirm your height/weight I have seen many medical requirements
due to error in filling up height/weight ). Also if anything that normally goes from good to bad, it is almost always health

Having said that, whatever the outcome, you still have 15 days to look over the policy from the day you
receive it to decide if you want it or not. You have the right to cancel the policy without giving any reason
and the insurer will return back all the premium LESS ANY MEDICAL REPORT COSTS.

Another thing I would like to share with you. All insurance companies are the same. While everyone debates on which company is better, the CEO of all companies have meetings every now and then and discuss how they are going
to sell more insurance to the market.

Insurers always never compete with same products. If one is cheap, maybe less profits, another more expensive
but more cash value, Some protection better, some risks higher, even some more guaranteed profits. If one company
sell Australian apple, another fellow will sell Fuji apple. How to compare?

Most important is agent who is trustworthy, can service you properly, more committed (maybe full-time), more knowledgeable, etc. Somebody, when you are in the hospital, will come and visit you and help you make the claims, maybe even fight with his/her insurance company to pay you more if possible


rekamaju
post Sep 27 2011, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(gtfan @ Sep 27 2011, 06:53 PM)
Hi,

I am relooking at my insurance coverage policy again and i realise i have been paying too much to my agents for minimal medical coverage.

Now, i plan to reorg my medical coverage and have found tokio marine medic plus and axa smartcare optimum which suits me.

The question now i am seeking, which company offers critical illness standalone coverage as i don't want to buy another life insurance policy as most agents tend to push that ? And no investment linked fund either. Had enough of that as i seek coverage instead of investment.

Cheers.
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Since you are not interested in any life plan, then you have a few options:-
Have a Medical Plan that:-
-Has a large Annual Limit eg RM200,000/-
-Has a large Lifetime Limit eg RM1,200,000/-
- Covers outpatient Kidney Dialysis and Cancer Treatment

This should more or less cover all your medical problems, critical or not.

Generally, critical illnesses cover can be taken as:
- Critical Illness only cover with no returns
- Critical Illness with death benefit and zero returns
- Critical illness with death benefit with full premium return

Most of my clients who consider CI cover along your same thinking, generally consider premium refund type of plans

Others take cover as package with life insurance
rekamaju
post Sep 28 2011, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(gtfan @ Sep 27 2011, 09:24 PM)
Hi rekamaju,

What kinda premium am i looking at for critical illness which you have specify the 3 types and which insurance company are you representing ?

- Critical Illness only cover with no returns
- Critical Illness with death benefit and zero returns
- Critical illness with death benefit with full premium return


Added on September 27, 2011, 9:28 pm

I am not so worried about the deductibles as my existing company already cover the first rm40k. I am just looking at longer term as i know if *touch wood* something happens, i am not worried about my medical bills going above rm40k.
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I do not have the first option of Critical Illness cover only

See images for comparisons of person age 30
I know you are not interested in investment plan, but maybe you might want to consider
46 Critical Illness plan where all others are 36 only
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I represent MAA Assurance ( now Zurich Insurance Malaysia - 100% ownership ) and MAA Takaful

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rekamaju
post Sep 29 2011, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(yong417 @ Sep 28 2011, 08:43 PM)
any plan to recommend?? too many figures and tables d under ur signature link  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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I think you are having difficulty in deciding what you actually want

Best thing is to do is show your/the agent what you now have
and let him show you how to improve on it. You may have
to see a few solutions before you decide on the best one BASED ON YOUR BUDGET

If in Klang Valley, I can help you. PM me if interested
In the meantime I suggest you read this on my blog

http://zurichmalaysia.wordpress.com/2011/0...ell-yes-and-no/

Enjoy


rekamaju
post Oct 10 2011, 05:29 PM

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Many have complained about insurance being too expensive

If you really, really wanted life insurance that was cheap,
or you want to lower your cost of insurance, here is your solution

PM me if you are serious.

Sorry, but I can service Klang Valley only

TERMS & CONDITIONS APPLY




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post Oct 29 2011, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(prettyboy @ Oct 29 2011, 08:14 PM)
Hi any medical card around with:
1. No co insurance
2. Can claim for outpatient and of course in patient treatment/hospitalisation/surgery
3. Reasonable year and life time limit
4. A lot of panel clinic/hospital?

Thank you.
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Checkout my blog for Medical Card info
http://zurichmalaysia.wordpress.com/medical-card/

If interested, email me or call

Rama Krishnan
012-320 8475
rekamaju
post Oct 31 2011, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(vandoren @ Oct 31 2011, 12:10 PM)
Dear,

Let's say if I'm married and have 2 kids.
May I know buying individual medical card better? Or buying family medical card more worthy and better? Any disadvantages having individual MC or family MC?
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The only reason you buy Family card is because of Family Discount (approx 10~20%)
and thus lower premium

Disadvantages, maybe:-

1) One ANNUAL LIMIT shared by all? If only one person claim, then no problem
But what if whole family in one accident for example? Enough for all?

If Family Plan, but you have Individual Annual Limit, then okay



2) If owner of Family Plan dies, or finish lifetime limit, then whole family plan cancelled

The remaining family members will have to underwrite again for new plan. If previously no health problem
then okay, but if have history, then new plan will exclude, although cancelled plan would have covered all illnesses

Also when children reach major, they cannot be covered anymore and have to underwrite new individual plan

3) Different people different need. Maybe you already have sufficient life insurance, so you need medical coverage only. Children may need not only medical, but also accident & education savings, so you take life insurance package
WITH MEDICAL COVERAGE. Normally these Medical Insurance packaged with life insurance are cheaper
than stand-alone or after family discount


Rama Krishnan
http://zurichmalaysia.wordpress.com/medical-card/


rekamaju
post Nov 8 2011, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Zavia/GenX @ Nov 8 2011, 10:36 PM)
Hi guys,

I was asking some agents around for insurance quotes for myself (aged 25,non smoking) and want to know what is considered a good deal?

I basically look for no annual limit with a focus on medical (as I don't really care about the rest). I basically want medical insurance and the rest is just for the heck of it since its apparently a package. (I dont have dependents)

One of them gave me:

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I understand it is RM200/Mth forever.

As a starting executive, its a bite to take 2 and a half thousand out per year, so I would want to know your opinions before signing anything.
Should I ask for more? Is something too low? Or is it some super great plan?

Thanks!
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You say you want Medical only
Then look at this

http://zurichmalaysia.wordpress.com/medical-card/ (Plan 4)

Your premium per annum RM1159/- only

Lifetime Limit 1.2M
"Zero" co-insurance

If you want LIFE Insurance extra:-

Natural Death - RM50,000/-
Accidental Death - RM50,000/-
36 Critical Illness - RM50,000/-

Premium per annum - RM214/- only

Condition for LIFE Insurance - RM1000/- extra one time only Mutual Fund
investment (current returns 12% per annum based on last 5 year performance)
rekamaju
post Nov 9 2011, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Nov 9 2011, 04:44 PM)
Hai Guys,

In a ILP or endowment plan, there is a portion for non guaranteed returns. Is there a possibility that we won't get anything or they will pay out a minimum of 3% or 5 % as quoted in the insurance policy?

Please advice.

Thanks
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There is a possibility that they will pay nothing or the minimum as you say it
There is also a possibility that they will pay as they projected
There is also another possibility that they will pay more than they projected

But if they have been paying lower that they projected always, don't you
think the insurance companies would have gone out of business long ago
as they have been proven to be inconsistent to their projections?

In Malaysia, Bank Negara controls the projections in the Sales Illustrations
where the premise is to "promise less, and deliver more"

If managed properly, you should be optimistic about your returns from your ILP plans


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post Nov 9 2011, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(callmedave89 @ Nov 9 2011, 08:43 PM)
Initially u only can deduct from ur earning 1k for medical. now u can enjoy thre relief up to 3k,
not very big amount if ur taxable income range is over 100k . haha
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I think different

Presently tax relief is:-

Life Insurance & EPF = RM6,000
Medical & Education Insurance = RM3,000
Annuity = RM1,000 now increase to RM3,000

Please understand that tax relief is only an incentive to invest and protect your self

People who are serious about wealth creation and protection can achieve
more with proper information and planning even without this incentive
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post Nov 10 2011, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Nov 10 2011, 02:01 AM)
What about Pru Retirement?

You pay for 25 years then they pay you annually after that for 15 years.

Can it be considered as annuity scheme?
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Actually I don't know about this Annuity which seems very new

Prudential may be able to advise better


To give you an example on creating a retirement fund, see the enclosed image
(I made it as simple-to-understand as possible)

Monthly savings = RM100

Dividends you get from investment ( maybe unit trust using average per year, actual fluctuates) = 10%
Savings Years = 25yrs


RESULT if dividends on Retirement Fund is 10%

Monthly Income = RM575 forever
Retirement Fund lasts forever ( FOR YOUR NEXT OF KIN)

If you want double income, double your savings, or look for higher dividend investment





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post Nov 10 2011, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Nov 10 2011, 01:05 PM)
Thanks Bro.

Pru Retirement Reward is an annuity scheme

Any Prudential agents can give me facts what was their past performances in unit trust funds?

Are they  good?

Thanks
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You should be asking for investment-link funds performance, not unit trust funds
Both are different entities, the first investment with life insurance, the second only investment
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post Nov 10 2011, 06:08 PM

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This is just for info on investment fund performance for 1 year

Note that image cropped, but can view in full if anyone interested in knowing more
but must be face-to-face appointment only



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post Nov 10 2011, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Nov 10 2011, 07:55 PM)
personal money not accurate

try lipper/morningstar more accurate
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I agree. Actually all this quite meaningless. What matters is clients appetite for risk, investment horizon, insurance need and account management
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QUOTE(glamoroussoul @ Jan 28 2012, 12:08 AM)
Hi, I am looking for my first medical card. 26, female, non-smoker. Anyone can give me a quote?
-Cashless
-No Co-Insurance
-Guarantee renewal
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post Feb 23 2012, 09:51 AM

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Once or twice I have seen people with crutches or some type of injury, at the counter of my insurance company, filling up claim forms. It means one of 3 things:-
- the insured's agent is a bloody jerk who has shamed my industry, by not providing services expected to the client
- the agent was a friend or relative who is no longer in the industry
- the insured tried to save some money and bought direct from the company but has to do the footwork to process the claim

For the first 2 cases, I will normally try to help where possible to redeem the credibility of the industry.

Yes, this is not a perfect world. But my question to everyone is..... how important and valuable are you to yourself?
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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Feb 23 2012, 10:19 AM)
There is always a scenario whereby ppl are good to practise 'pay first claim later' scenario..  there are times that agent is 'good to have', but there are also times that I think I would save a few pennies without an agent is OK too.
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True, true. Everybody has a choice and the moment of truth
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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Feb 23 2012, 11:23 AM)
'moment of truth' - sounds sarcastics?  Join discussion here as a open-minded forummer will gain you more reputation than being stand solely as an agent point of view.  2cents worth.
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The moment of truth is for example

1) trying to enjoy Term Life, PA & 36 Critical Illness at the cheapest possible premium
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OR

2) If I had a critical illness like cancer, and I wish to take up life insurance, the insurer will either decline or load my application. How do I get this insurance coverage FREE OF CHARGE ( full term coverage after 2 years of inception up to age 65)?
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QUOTE(abgbes @ Feb 28 2012, 11:46 AM)
guys,

this might be a dumb question. Im doing my e filling now and want to fully utilize the 'pelepasan'.Can someone enlighten me about the difference of life insurance and medical/education insurance? Thanks.
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Life insurance relief is RM6000/- and covers insurance that pay for your death only. You can try claiming all other insurance premiums here if you still have balance relief here. This is shared with EPF contributions. Most employees never get a chance to fit their insurance relief here, because EPF max out the relief


Education insurance and medical is RM3000/- relief.

Medical insurance is stand alone policy or rider premium that do not give you any money back. Applied to critical illness premium where they give you about 30% of premium relief ( pls check)

Education policy is premium which is paid for polices that have the word EDUCATION on them


However I must say this. If you buy insurance to enjoy maximum tax relief, then I think you got all your priorities wrong

ps better ask dumb question and become intelligent, rather than try to appear intelligent and remain dumb

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