does anyone has the premium table for the medical plan that is attached to Allianz Powerlink ILP? appreciate it if you can attach it here
medical / critical illness insurance enquiry
medical / critical illness insurance enquiry
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Sep 17 2009, 11:05 PM
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does anyone has the premium table for the medical plan that is attached to Allianz Powerlink ILP? appreciate it if you can attach it here
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Dec 7 2009, 02:47 PM
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currently, i have an investment linked insurance with one of the insurance company that was purchased some years ago. i intend to look for some upgrade to the coverage of my medical plan in this investment linked policy. the current medical plan coverage is ok, but with quite a few limitations like per confinement limit/low coverage for cancers etc and might not be sufficient for the future medical inflation. current policy has no loading since it was purchased years ago.
i have asked for the quotation of investment linked insurance from another insurance company, but unfortunately there is about 50% loading due to my hypertension situation. the new medical plan coverage has higher limits, but the life assured amount is very minimal. question: should i maintain the current investment linked policy, despite its limit? or should i opt for the new policy and terminate the old policy once the 4 months observation period is over, even though it's much more expensive? PS: wont be able to sustain both medical plans due to $$$. appreciate some feedbacks and comments. |
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Dec 7 2009, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(mfitri77 @ Dec 7 2009, 03:43 PM) The best way in your situation is probably to just stay with your current provider, and ask for an upgrade to the better plans. It should be lower than you switching to an entirely new provider, with a more advance age, and loading. thanks for the feedback. i've asked the current insurance policy and unfortunately, the current medical plan is not upgradable anymore. that's why the dilemmaAs for the life assured... Well, it depends on you. Usually from what I see, the thing that kills people financially is not the death of the loved one, but the bills they incur when they still live on. That's why medical is important. Like the CI, for cancer its only stage 3 and above that CI payout comes in. Medical covers your bill for stage 1 and 2, and 3 and 4. Trust me, when you have cancer, that big lump sump of money is not going to be very big for long. |
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Dec 7 2009, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Dec 7 2009, 06:30 PM) jutamind, Hi,actually you can solve the dilemma with a little outside the box thinking: 1. you should keep the current policy (even though i dont know the details of the plan) due to the time and money sunken - even though i generally regard investment linked policies as bad choices. you are locked in and you cant cancel the policy due to the loading otherwise experienced. 2. i take it you have identified the current H&S cover to be inadequarte. buy a general insurance policy and see if you can get it without loading if you exclude hypertension. this is risky however worth a shot since your current cover will take care of such issues to some extent. you might also want to consider a loading since general insurance H&S is a lot cheaper. you should be able to afford the additional costs if you are considering an upgrade with an investment linked policy. you may even choose a GI plan with a deductable to effectively upgrade your current cover. most good plans offer hefty discounts for a deductable of 5-20k p.a. or per disability. hope this helps That's a good suggestion. do you have any claims experience/heard of any problems regarding medical claims with general insurance companies? the general believe is that general insurance MIGHT be more difficult to claim AND the issue of renewability of the medical plan. |
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Dec 8 2009, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Dec 8 2009, 08:38 AM) jutamind, have you experienced any difficulties in admission to hospital/getting guarantee letter when using a medical card from GI companies?GI will generally be the same in terms of claims and all. if you have a guaranteed renewal clause the risk of loosing cover is pretty much the same with GI and Life. personally i never had any issues making claims in the past but this might just be me - i can be very very pushy and usually get in touch directly with the person in charge as i usually dont use any agents if i can avoid them. Gen-X, you might find that a GI H&S cover would serve you better as it would be easier to switch within plans and insurance company as compared to IL-Life policies. your problem is one of my main grouses with H&S from Life Insurers. of course with GI you should get a high (the highest actually) cover in the beginning. downgrade is always easier and higher cover early on is cheaper also than with life insurers |
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Dec 8 2009, 09:47 AM
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anyone has experience buying insurance and making claims from banks, i.e. bancassurance?
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Dec 10 2009, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Dec 10 2009, 12:55 PM) not entirely true.. I've a letter from an life insurer telling his client that his Medical policy will not be renewed due to claims experience.. I'll post it up if needs be.. The things is policy contract is the only legal binding documents, if your policy contract does not say 'guarantee renewal; or portfolio exclusion', insurers surely can kick anyone out in the next renewal as and when they see fit. So, check your policy contract before you sign. I know many of those medical policy (ie. rider in the ILP) will never has these clauses stated... But for some general insurers' plan you can see these terms stated quite Clearly...ask PJUSA. does this case that you know of, the medical policy is from stand alone medical card or as a rider as in an ILP? |
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Dec 10 2009, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Dec 10 2009, 02:22 PM) PJusa what is your opinion if I going this way: am looking at Tokio Marine Medic Plus as a supplementary medical plan. anyone has any knowledge in more details about this Medic Plus plan/experience dealing with TM?-I have company medical card cover up to 15 K limit -choose AXA Smart care optimum as a topup with deductible of 15 K (40% discount of premium). In case my company stop providing medical card this plan can be converted to full plan. I need to choose the plan properly as the conversion can only to same or lower plan only. -take Tokio Marine Medic Plus to cover for outpatient cancer and kidney dialysis. |
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Dec 10 2009, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Dec 10 2009, 04:41 PM) I really agree to PJusa to leave TM for certain purpose. If I put TM as the main sources I found the tendency to file a claim is difficult as it has limit per disability. per disability here means per hospitalization or per disease?for eg in cancer treatment, you might need to go for multiple chemo shots which easily cost up to 10k per shot. |
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Dec 12 2009, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Dec 12 2009, 09:26 PM) next plan is to get standalone MC for my son who currently having medical rider under ILP for just 5 months. is it ok to apply for new stand alone card and once approved cancel the whole ILP or if possible to modify the plan. of course money will burn but it is better to burn now rather than in the future any plan in mind? my son is on the cheapest plan for ING IMPlus which i think is not very cost effective. might review it should there be a viable alternative. |
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Dec 17 2009, 04:11 PM
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[quote=rakyat,Dec 17 2009, 10:04 AM]
Wah gone a few days and this tread have ran away A cheaper alternative is to extend your existing medical coverage (I assume that you are covered) to a family plan. As for your ILP, u can easily convert the medical part of the premium into your unit trust or death benefit unless you totally don't want the policy which then you will need to cancel. For a 5 months old policy, I doubt you can get much back. my son is 3+ now. the option of extending my medical plan to include my son could be more expensive than buying stand alone medical card for him. besides, it could be more troublesome administratively if he has to be admitted due to sharing of the same medical card with me (maybe just my perception). would it be advisable to get the stand alone medical card for him (of coz under my name as a guardian) from general insurance company since they normally have more comprehensive coverage with a better pricing? |
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Jan 22 2010, 03:49 PM
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any bought medical insurance from pacific insurance before? any experience dealing with them/acceptability of the medical card by the private hospitals?
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Jul 29 2010, 04:04 PM
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i have a medical card for R&B 150 which i bought many years ago and this card cannot be upgraded anymore (due to change of plan). I have since been diagnosed with hypertension few years back and now i'm thinking of upgrading my medical card.
I wonder whether insurance company still covers for those with hypertension? If yes, will there be loading and how much will be the loading normally? I would like to find a medical card that includes diseases induced by hypertension coverage, as i know some medical cards exclude hypertension if you already have it. PS: I know i might be subjected to medical examination before approval. |
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Aug 11 2010, 09:30 PM
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is there any medical card from general insurance companies that covers existing medical conditions with loading?
as far as i know, general insurance co will just exclude the disease from coverage.... |
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Aug 11 2010, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Aug 11 2010, 09:51 PM) jutamind, thanks for the insight, pjusa....never thot of being able to negotiate for insurance policy.in my experience the answer depends on the pre-existing condition. even if initially an exclusion might be offered you can get in touch with underwriting to negotiate a loading. naturally this is easier for small issues and harder (or next to impossible) for serious issues. afterall the insurance wants to insure risk not certainty some insurances might (depending on what is the condition) offer a full coverage if condition does not show any issues for a specific period of time - even without loading. this mostly refers to the high end products and international companies and small issues, otherwise severe (!) loadings would be imposed which often makes an exlusion the smarter choice. there is however no harm in talking to the company in question. i would like to see more loadings and less exclusions but its a problematic situation - afterall the insured waited and now the boat is sunken. why should the rest of the insured parties and the insurance pick up the future bills when you didnt insure against the risk before? i've recently sign up for TM Medic Plus as a supplementary med card, but with exclusion of hypertention and its related diseases due to my med condition. I guess it's too late now to nego but for next year's renewal, i might ask for coverage of hypertension with loading if it's possible. |
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Sep 23 2010, 01:55 PM
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i'm having a medical card with the coverage of 90k/300k (annual/lifetime) limit with room & board of rm150 and CI coverage of 100k. i have another supplementary med card from another insurance with limit of 150k/750k and room & board of rm500. This supp med card which i bought after i was diagnosed with hypertension, is excluding hypertension related diseases.
question: is the coverage above enough to sustain future's medical cost? do i need another medical card (which doesnt exclude hypertension related diseases)? appreciate feedbacks. thanks. |
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Sep 23 2010, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Sep 23 2010, 07:05 PM) jutamind, i do have some budget for insurance and that's i'm reviewing my med coverage.since you are diagnosed with hypertension it wont be possible to get an additional insurance that covers this or related. the sup card is not bad, annual limit a tad low for my taste but it should under most scenarious hold. other question: do you have additional money to buy more insurance. if yes, consider a policy excl. hypertension and related with a deductable as a burst option for a scenary going really bad where you're limits are used up. it would be pretty cheap to get another 3/4 M of lifetime coverage and would give you a lot of breathing room just in case. my first med card of 90k/300k do cover hypertension since i bought it way before i was diagnosed with hypertension. For cancer related diseases or other major diseases, i believe my current coverage of CI 100k and supp med card 150k/750k should be able to cover the expenses. My only worry is hypertension related diseases such as heart attack etc since my only coverage is from my first med card 90k/300k and CI 100k. i believe this might not be sufficient in the future. also, the room & board for my first med card is only for rm150 (not able to upgrade anymore), which should be not enuf for the future. |
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Dec 29 2010, 07:03 PM
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does anyone has the cost of insurance table/chart for prudential crisis cover income rider & the similar rider from AIA (not sure what's the product name for AIA, could be disability income rider or something like that)?
appreciate it if you could share it out. thanks. |
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Jun 13 2011, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(asil66 @ Jun 13 2011, 05:27 PM) I need some advice here, i did a short comparison among few medical cards from a few life insurance companies. you may check it out here.Currently, I do not have any insurance plan and am now looking for health insurance. May I know which insurance company is the best in terms of premiums and claiming process? Any recommended insurance plans out there that covers 36 critical illness, pa and h&s? |
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Jun 13 2011, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(asil66 @ Jun 13 2011, 06:26 PM) thanks jutamind, but i m not looking for a standalone medical card. I am looking for plans that covers critical illness and pa too... the medical cards that i mentioned in the article can be attached to a policy as a rider. my personal believe is that we should pay focus on medical card coverage in an insurance policy since they will incur most of the premium charged and it is the most likely product in the policy that you will use more often. |
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