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post Feb 18 2009, 01:55 PM, updated 17y ago

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Hi to all Sifus,

Would like to know, what do I need (converter/adapter) and how to connect both the console and DVD player to the monitor through HDMI and output the audio to a 2.1 PC speaker. So that I can play games and watch DVD movies on the LCD monitor without plug and unplug the cables to switch between components ? And where to get those converter/adapter ? Thanks !

Dell S2409W 24" Monitor (only 1 HDMI)
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post Feb 18 2009, 04:23 PM

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yes i'm trying to do the same.. i've placed order for that dell monitor.. is it 699 right? tongue.gif
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post Feb 18 2009, 04:34 PM

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Used HDMI switch...
better check Play-asia.. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 18 2009, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(aobk84 @ Feb 18 2009, 04:23 PM)
yes i'm trying to do the same.. i've placed order for that dell monitor.. is it 699 right?  tongue.gif
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Hehehehe ... yupe ... u're right .... I haven't place order yet ... valid till 23/2/09 ... no rush ... hehehe .... u have the solution already ?

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QUOTE(Noysan @ Feb 18 2009, 04:34 PM)
Used HDMI switch...
better check Play-asia.. biggrin.gif
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Oh .. so it's called HDMI switch .. will check it out at play-asia .... how abt the solution for the audio ... what do i need ? Thanks !
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post Feb 18 2009, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Feb 18 2009, 04:42 PM)
Oh .. so it's called HDMI switch .. will check it out at play-asia .... how abt the solution for the audio ... what do i need ? Thanks !
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Thanks Noysan ... found the HDMI Smart Switch (3 Ports) at Play-Asia, but it's expensive ... around RM91.49 ... anyone here have experience with this thing ? And don't forget the solution for audio k ? hehehehe

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post Feb 18 2009, 05:04 PM

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do u have xbox original hdmi cable/?
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post Feb 18 2009, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(figure8 @ Feb 18 2009, 05:04 PM)
do u have xbox original hdmi cable/?
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Have to use Xbox360 original cable is it ? I haven't own xbox yet sweat.gif ... I'm looking for used one, if cannot find only I go for new one. Just need to make sure everything in place before get Xbox.
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post Feb 18 2009, 10:06 PM

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Sorry I'm a little lost on Xbox360 because i've been eyeing ps3 only. Does all the Xbox360 in Malaysia selling with HDMI output?


Added on February 18, 2009, 10:07 pmFyi the lead time until we receive the monitor is 2 weeks...

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post Feb 18 2009, 11:56 PM

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can anyone tell me how to get sound? Im also confused.

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post Feb 19 2009, 12:24 AM

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U can use vga cables to connect your xbox on vga(dvi if u can find a vga to dvi converter) and hdmi for your dvd player.

As for the sound, there's no audio out fo this monitor eh?

Using the vga cable audio cable u can connect your 360 to your speaker using the Y splitter cable or opitical(if your speaker supports this). or if u buy an 360 elite, u can use your hdmi port and the audio dongle to channel your sound to the speakers. I dont know about your dvd player unless it can output video/sound thru seperate hdmi and composite simulataneously, there will be no sound for your dvd player. I dont have this problem using my monitor(e2200hd) since there's a sound input/output for the monitor. I can connect my 360(vga)/pc(dvi)/ps3(hdmi) and all connected to my 2.1 speaker. thumbup.gif

Hope that helps.


Btw, i was thinking. Why dont u use the xbox to play your dvds? There no need of an xtra player for it. Or better yet, go for a ps3 for the ultimate Blu-ray experience. flex.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Feb 19 2009, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Feb 18 2009, 04:42 PM)
Oh .. so it's called HDMI switch .. will check it out at play-asia .... how abt the solution for the audio ... what do i need ? Thanks !
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There's an audio out at the back of monitor. Just plug and play. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 19 2009, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Noysan @ Feb 19 2009, 09:25 AM)
There's an audio out at the back of monitor. Just plug and play. biggrin.gif
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Yupe ... after read pel post, i go n do reading abt the audio out at the back of the monitor, but it's not a good solution bcos the the port goes into sleep if there's no sound signal for 5 seconds but need 10-15 seconds to wake after signal detected sad.gif ...

So, it is confirm that if use HDMI on DVD player, it cannot output the audio to other connection/port ?
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post Feb 19 2009, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Feb 19 2009, 09:58 AM)
Yupe ... after read pel post, i go n do reading abt the audio out at the back of the monitor, but it's not a good solution bcos the the port goes into sleep if there's no sound signal for 5 seconds but need 10-15 seconds to wake after signal detected  sad.gif  ...

So, it is confirm that if use HDMI on DVD player, it cannot output the audio to other connection/port ?
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Fade out problem is tolerable.. I have gotten used to it after prolong used.. sweat.gif

Sorry I cant get what you are trying to say for the DVD..bit confused rclxub.gif
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post Feb 19 2009, 11:41 AM

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This is how my setup goes.

My 360 is connected beside my monitor. And My pc is nearby as well.

The 360 is connected to the monitor via a HDMI cable and my PC , via DVI. The monitor has an input and output port behind it. I connect the PC to my monitor via a 2 way input cable (1 input to the monitor and another to the monitor) and another cable is a 1 way input cable that is connected directly to the speaker. So that input is connected to my monitor. After that i get both sounds either from my pc or my xbox360.

However, 1 thing that i noticed is some games quality played on the monitor. An example is GTA4. The game looks solarised (alittle like water colour image type) , that happens to mostly the background. Other games like GOW looks fine. Some people claimed that Halo 3 has the same solarised effect too..

Maybe it's because of the hdmi cable. I'm planning to get a VGA cable for the 360 for the monitor to see if the issue can be rectified.
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post Feb 19 2009, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Noysan @ Feb 19 2009, 11:10 AM)
Fade out problem is tolerable.. I have gotten used to it after prolong used.. sweat.gif

Sorry I cant get what you are trying to say for the DVD..bit confused rclxub.gif
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Oh .. sorry .... what I mean is, bcos of HDMI on the DVD player carry both the audio n video signal, so if I use some kind of adapter n output it to PC speaker, there won't be any sound bcos, once HDMI is used, the audio signal will only output to HDMI together with video... will this happen ? Hope its clearer now ....


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QUOTE(MyP2PCafe @ Feb 19 2009, 11:41 AM)
This is how my setup goes.

My 360 is connected beside my monitor. And My pc is nearby as well.

The 360 is connected to the monitor via a HDMI cable and my PC , via DVI. The monitor has an input and output port behind it. I connect the PC to my monitor via a 2 way input cable (1 input to the monitor and another to the monitor) and another cable is a 1 way input cable that is connected directly to the speaker. So that input is connected to my monitor. After that i get both sounds either from my pc or my xbox360.

However, 1 thing that  i noticed is some games quality played on the monitor. An example is GTA4. The game looks solarised (alittle like water colour image type) , that happens to mostly the background. Other games like GOW looks fine. Some people claimed that Halo 3 has the same solarised effect too..

Maybe it's because of the hdmi cable. I'm planning to get a VGA cable for the 360 for the monitor to see if the issue can be rectified.
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Hi, 're u suing Dell S2409W monitor ? Is there any fade out problem or need to wait 10-15 seconds for the audio to output ? And what is 2 way input cable n I don't understand ... "(1 input to the monitor and another to the monitor) and another cable is a 1 way input cable that is connected directly to the speaker", mind to explain more ? Thanks !

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post Feb 19 2009, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Feb 19 2009, 11:45 AM)
Oh .. sorry .... what I mean is, bcos of HDMI on the DVD player carry both the audio n video signal, so if I use some kind of adapter n output it to PC speaker, there won't be any sound bcos, once HDMI is used, the audio signal will only output to HDMI together with video... will this happen ? Hope its clearer now ....


If I get you right,,you want to output the audio and video separately of the DVD using HDMI and you don't want to utilize the audio out of the monitor because the fade out problem..
I suggest to check first your DVD if it has composite/component output. If have, check whether if your using HDMI out of the DVD the composite/component is still active.. If yes you can use the composite/component audio out for audio via cable and HDMI for video.. You need special connector to connect your speaker for this set-up.

Hope I get you right.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Noysan @ Feb 19 2009, 01:26 PM)
If I get you right,,you want to output the audio and video separately of the DVD using HDMI and you don't want to utilize the audio out of the monitor because the fade out problem..
I suggest to check first your DVD if it has composite/component output. If have, check whether if your using HDMI out of the DVD the composite/component is still active.. If yes you can use the composite/component audio out for audio via cable and HDMI for video.. You need special connector to connect your speaker for this set-up.

Hope I get you right.. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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yupe ... u got me right ... hehehe .... the DVD player have composite n component output, but i can't test like what u advise bcos i don't have the monitor with me yet ... What special connector/adapter i need in this case to share the speaker between DVD player n Xbox360 ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(stormaker @ Feb 19 2009, 01:46 PM)
yupe ... u got me right ... hehehe .... the DVD player have composite n component output, but i can't test like what u advise bcos i don't have the monitor with me yet ... What special connector/adapter i need in this case to share the speaker between DVD player n Xbox360 ?  biggrin.gif
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If you can utilize the composite/component output of you DVD while using HDMI connection, you need y-splitter audio cable.
check it here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/921614

For Xbox360 HDMI connection, i suggest you to utilize the audio out of the S2409W monitor.. Audio fade out is not a big issue since it only last for a few seconds. You'll get used to it .. whistling.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Noysan @ Feb 19 2009, 02:56 PM)
If you can utilize the composite/component output of you DVD while using HDMI connection, you need y-splitter audio cable.
check it here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/921614

For Xbox360 HDMI connection, i suggest you to utilize the audio out of the S2409W monitor.. Audio fade out is not a big issue since it only last for a few seconds. You'll get used to it ..  whistling.gif  sweat.gif
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That's really nice info u provide there ... really appreciate it.

So i think the easiest way is to connect both the Xbox360 and DVD player to the HDMI switch and HDMI switch to the monitor. ( For Video)
Connect the speaker to the monitor and live with the audio fade out problem. biggrin.gif

If use the y-splitter method, cannot connect both the Xbox360 n DVD player at the same time, need to manual switch ... if i'm not mistaken la ... that's also if the composite port on DVD player remain active when HDMI in use.

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Feb 19 2009, 04:39 PM)
That's really nice info u provide there ... really appreciate it.

So i think the easiest way is to connect both the Xbox360 and DVD player to the HDMI switch and HDMI switch to the monitor. ( For Video)
Connect the speaker to the monitor and live with the audio fade out problem.  biggrin.gif

If use the y-splitter method, cannot connect both the Xbox360 n DVD player at the same time, need to manual switch ... if i'm not mistaken la ... that's also if the composite port on DVD player remain active when HDMI in use.
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Guess so if you can tolerate the fade out problem.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(stormaker @ Feb 19 2009, 04:39 PM)
That's really nice info u provide there ... really appreciate it.

So i think the easiest way is to connect both the Xbox360 and DVD player to the HDMI switch and HDMI switch to the monitor. ( For Video)
Connect the speaker to the monitor and live with the audio fade out problem.  biggrin.gif

If use the y-splitter method, cannot connect both the Xbox360 n DVD player at the same time, need to manual switch ... if i'm not mistaken la ... that's also if the composite port on DVD player remain active when HDMI in use.
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U can always use this sort of audio splitter adapter to have both of your xbox and DVD player audio connected at the same time.

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QUOTE(pel @ Feb 19 2009, 10:54 PM)
U can always use this sort of audio splitter adapter to have both of your xbox and DVD player audio connected at the same time.

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Thanks pel ... looks like a need a lot of adapter ... hopefully the video/audio wouldn't degrade.



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post Mar 12 2009, 10:27 AM

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Finally, received my Dell S2409W monitor n hooked up my Xbox360 to it via HDMI, then tried to connect the speaker to the "Audio Out" on the monitor, surprisingly, I didn't notice any audio fade in problem ... biggrin.gif ...

Any sifu can tell me ... if I use the optical/coxial cable to connect the xbox360 to the speaker, will the sound quality better or HDMI through monitor "Audio Out" better ? Thanks !
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QUOTE(stormaker @ Mar 12 2009, 10:27 AM)
Finally, received my Dell S2409W monitor n hooked up my Xbox360 to it via HDMI, then tried to connect the speaker to the "Audio Out" on the monitor, surprisingly, I didn't notice any audio fade in problem ...  biggrin.gif ...

Any sifu can tell me ... if I use the optical/coxial cable to connect the xbox360 to the speaker, will the sound quality better or HDMI through monitor "Audio Out" better ?  Thanks !
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Good for you bro.. Try watching movies then pause for a longer time then play again just to see if you will encounter fade out. If not,, i guess they already fixed the problem.

Using optical is better,, I think-- not really sure rclxub.gif rclxub.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Noysan @ Mar 12 2009, 03:29 PM)
Good for you bro.. Try watching movies then pause for a longer time then play again just to see if you will encounter fade out. If not,, i guess they already fixed the problem.

Using optical is better,, I think-- not really sure rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  laugh.gif
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I haven't try watch movie bcos im still looking for hdmi dvd player, but in Xbox360, after install game to hdd for 10 to 15 mins ... the audio still ok.

If im not mistaken, even though the audio signal is from hdmi but once it enter the monitor to speaker, its not digital anymore .... that's what i think lah.
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QUOTE(stormaker @ Mar 12 2009, 04:03 PM)
I haven't try watch movie bcos im still looking for hdmi dvd player, but in Xbox360, after install game to hdd for 10 to 15 mins ... the audio still ok.


Try pausing the game for a long time lets say for 1-2 mins then try and see if you encounter fade out. If no problem i really want to know how they fixed it... cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(Noysan @ Mar 13 2009, 09:46 AM)
Try pausing the game for a long time lets say for 1-2 mins then try and see if you encounter fade out. If no problem i really want to know how they fixed it... cry.gif  cry.gif
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sorry bro .. been busy testing the DVD player last night ... forgot to test the audio fade in problem for the monitor. Tonight I will try both in game n movie then will post the result here ... smile.gif
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maybe they've fixed it already...
Googled around and found that this is a hardware problem so it can't be patched.. cry.gif

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QUOTE(Noysan @ Mar 13 2009, 10:30 AM)
maybe they've fixed it already...
Googled around and found that this is a hardware problem so it can't be patched.. cry.gif
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U owned S2409W also ? After test tonight n if confirmed problem fixed, maybe u can try ur luck to claim warranty.
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will try... sad.gif sad.gif
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Last night, I have tried to paused the movie from DVD player twice, each time 2 - 5mins, found no audio problem after resume movie playback, the sound available immediately ... thumbup.gif
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yeah that goes for me too..just got mine this week and i dun seem to have to audio glitch..
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QUOTE(stormaker @ Mar 14 2009, 10:55 AM)
Last night, I have tried to paused the movie from DVD player twice, each time 2 - 5mins, found no audio problem after resume movie playback, the sound available immediately ...  thumbup.gif
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So they've fixed it already.. Guess your unit is a new version.. thumbup.gif
I got mine last october after raya..I better call customer support.. Thanks bro.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Noysan @ Mar 15 2009, 10:48 AM)
So they've fixed it already.. Guess your unit is a new version.. thumbup.gif 
I got mine last  october after raya..I better call customer support.. Thanks bro.. biggrin.gif
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my S2409W do have the audio delay problem (bought last year when it was RM999 cry cry)

i originally plan to use it to play PS3.. but later find the screen a little too small so i got an LCD TV...

now its sitting on my computer table without much use, since i normally don't use computer at home...

 

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