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^Hobbes^
post Feb 19 2009, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Feb 19 2009, 10:20 AM)
Apa ni...laugh.gif
Romanticnya.....
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alamak
another typo
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damm
i shuldnt be multitasking
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 19 2009, 10:22 AM)
korek korek..
nt just tat too. a redesign of those area will spur speculation. its actual from the mistake carry past 20 or 50 yrs ago when they had the city like disorganize.

the pattern is there but the plotting & development of sustainable city is not there.

its same case as sydney; the worst metropolis in Australia.
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post Feb 19 2009, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Feb 19 2009, 10:22 AM)
Still back to basics fix our Malaysian mentality first

Looking at our road conditions, i have doubts that the aircond or the bridge will ever be maintained as schedule

Looking at our crime rates, snatch theft and pickpockets, i doubt it will be as safe as we would want to imagine it to be
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Simply increase the number of people using the bridge...

Look at the underground walkway from KLCC to Suria KLCC......

As i said, it is proposed to divide it to several sections and let adjacent building management responsible for that...

Bukit Bintang monorail is too much of a hassle you know...

In another matter, it will help lalas to conquer KLCC biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Feb 19 2009, 10:26 AM
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post Feb 19 2009, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Feb 19 2009, 10:24 AM)
alamak
another typo
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damm
i shuldnt be multitasking
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Ini si hawkie pandai betul he contribute pictar in Malaysian Most Pretty thread laugh.gif
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something for the 80's babies


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post Feb 19 2009, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Feb 19 2009, 10:17 AM)
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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Feb 19 2009, 10:18 AM)
oh u rike holland?
we is can go see flower
you the flower i the bee
u the shit i the fly
romantic idea?
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u the shit im the flies hmm.gif

QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 19 2009, 10:19 AM)
hi hakka ngin  !
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hello... ngai heh hakka nyin ~~

QUOTE(peinsama @ Feb 19 2009, 10:20 AM)
Apa ni...laugh.gif
Romanticnya.....
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thats the new generation of romaticness rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(dazzywazzy @ Feb 19 2009, 10:21 AM)
no one layan me . aih
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what u want from me ??
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post Feb 19 2009, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 19 2009, 11:19 AM)
I think this is different than normal overhead pedestrian bridge, because overhead pedestrian bridges normally about 100 to 300 m at most...

Whereas this bridge (air conditioned) is about 1.5 km

For now, people going to KLCC from Bukit Bintang have to take monorail, then walk from Bukit Nanas to Dang Wangi, then from Dang Wangi to KLCC, isn't it tiring?

With this bridge, it is faster without waiting and there is travellator as well...

Maintenance wise, i suggest divide this bridge to several section that is maintained but adjacent building/tower management...
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the one from pavillion across the road is pretty nice build. n my mate work sumwhere there.

QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 19 2009, 11:21 AM)
There is one underground walkaway in existence in KL, which Suria KLCC to KL Convention Centre

Underground, can be considered, but the interesting question is cost...

DBKL is full of fail lah, Plaza Rakyat now like the biggest mosquito spot in KL biggrin.gif
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yes cost.
Talking about plaza rakyat. arent they going to demolish it? its too old...to be structurally rebuild for reason wise.


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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 19 2009, 10:25 AM)
Simply increase the number of people using the bridge...

Look at the underground walkway from KLCC to Suria KLCC......

As i said, it is proposed to divide it to several sections and let adjacent building management responsible for that...

Bukit Bintang monorail is too much of a hassle you know...
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Increasing the number of ppl using the bridge wont warrant pedestrians security
Proof can be had if you go to areas like Pudu, its a bus terminal, full of ppl yet its not safe, few friends got robbed in broad daylight in a crowded area not to mention those who kena pick pocketed
Proof aso can be had if you ask around if any been robbed around KLCC in brought day light or not

If you are into building or civil engineer, you'll realised that the foundation of a building both structurally and geographical conditions where the proposed building to be built is crucial
You just cant build something ontop of a weak structure/foundation

Similiarly, security and mentality in this case are akin to the aforementioned foundation

I hope u get the drift, i'm multitasking here, cant afford the luxury to dwelve deeper tongue.gif

Edit: Its even harder with split management, especially when u have a few management team sitting in a room, deciding on frequency of maintenance, cost of maintenance.


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QUOTE(*devilelle* @ Feb 19 2009, 10:27 AM)
MY DARLING hands.gif  wub.gif
u the shit im the flies  hmm.gif
hello... ngai heh hakka nyin ~~
thats the new generation of romaticness  rolleyes.gif
what u want from me ??
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want your attention and to watch the youtube video laugh.gif
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post Feb 19 2009, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Feb 19 2009, 11:24 AM)
Was wondering, how do you build such 1.5 km bridge across the busy land?
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integration of building... but this is not simple stuff . seriously.

QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 19 2009, 11:25 AM)
Simply increase the number of people using the bridge...

Look at the underground walkway from KLCC to Suria KLCC......

As i said, it is proposed to divide it to several sections and let adjacent building management responsible for that...

Bukit Bintang monorail is too much of a hassle you know...

In another matter, it will help lalas to conquer KLCC  biggrin.gif
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Bukit bintang is not a problem; Jalan sultan ismail( if i`m nt mistake) tats the one..traffic flow to BB road is the one making it shitty.
BB square is ok; but the traffic management is need. NOT another pathetic super highway!

QUOTE(*devilelle* @ Feb 19 2009, 11:27 AM)
MY DARLING hands.gif  wub.gif
u the shit im the flies  hmm.gif
hello... ngai heh hakka nyin ~~
thats the new generation of romaticness  rolleyes.gif
what u want from me ??
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hou mou choi KK; weather mou lok sui?
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post Feb 19 2009, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(*devilelle* @ Feb 19 2009, 10:27 AM)
MY DARLING hands.gif  wub.gif
u the shit im the flies  hmm.gif
hello... ngai heh hakka nyin ~~
thats the new generation of romaticness  rolleyes.gif
what u want from me ??
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ok aso for u i willing be shit
let u be fly
u flower i become bee
lets go holland together and run in hollandpic 2020

ngi heh hakka liang moi zai!
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post Feb 19 2009, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Feb 19 2009, 10:30 AM)
Increasing the number of ppl using the bridge wont warrant pedestrians security
Proof can be had if you go to areas like Pudu, its a bus terminal, full of ppl yet its not safe, few friends got robbed in broad daylight in a crowded area not to mention those who kena pick pocketed
Proof aso can be had if you ask around if any been robbed around KLCC in brought day light or not

If you are into building or civil engineer, you'll realised that the foundation of a building both structurally and geographical conditions where the proposed building to be built is crucial
You just cant build something ontop of a weak structure/foundation

Similiarly, security and mentality in this case are akin to the aforementioned foundation

I hope u get the drift, i'm multitasking here, cant afford the luxury to dwelve deeper tongue.gif
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I would say the benefit outweights the risk, haha

Johannesburg can cut the pickpocket and crime, why not us?

I doubt we are worse than Johannesburg eh?

10 years ago, the CBD of Johannesburg faced gloom, a hotbed of crime and lack of pedestrian activities, when Amos Masondo cleared up Johannesburg with BRT and fill people inside CBD which was previously a hotbed of crime....

At the end of the day, there are several examples, it is up to DBKL to tidur or bangun biggrin.gif



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post Feb 19 2009, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Feb 19 2009, 11:30 AM)
Increasing the number of ppl using the bridge wont warrant pedestrians security
Proof can be had if you go to areas like Pudu, its a bus terminal, full of ppl yet its not safe, few friends got robbed in broad daylight in a crowded area not to mention those who kena pick pocketed
Proof aso can be had if you ask around if any been robbed around KLCC in brought day light or not

If you are into building or civil engineer, you'll realised that the foundation of a building both structurally and geographical conditions where the proposed building to be built is crucial
You just cant build something ontop of a weak structure/foundation

Similiarly, security and mentality in this case are akin to the aforementioned foundation

I hope u get the drift, i'm multitasking here, cant afford the luxury to dwelve deeper tongue.gif

Edit: Its even harder with split management, especially when u have a few management team sitting in a room, deciding on frequency of maintenance, cost of maintenance.
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about pudu again... the typical msia warns about it.
it was designed badly. I think its better be refurbish badly n rapidKL to be removed or those buses to be screened or merged one by one.


QUOTE(dazzywazzy @ Feb 19 2009, 11:31 AM)
want your attention and to watch the youtube video laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 19 2009, 10:25 AM)
Simply increase the number of people using the bridge...
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Increasing the number of people is one of those traditional ways but still i believe securities should be increase especially when there is more people using the facilities. It doesn't has to be increasing proportionately with the numbers of people using the facility but at least adding more securities could reduce crime rate to a lower level rather than just relying on the traditional ways. You cannot simply said the more people at a specific location, the safer it is. It COULD look safer but it doesn't mean it WOULD be safer.

QUOTE(*devilelle* @ Feb 19 2009, 10:27 AM)
thats the new generation of romaticness  rolleyes.gif
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You rike it? brows.gif
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post Feb 19 2009, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 19 2009, 10:35 AM)
I would say the benefit outweights the risk, haha

Johannesburg can cut the pickpocket and crime, why not us?

I doubt we are worse than Johannesburg eh?

10 years ago, the CBD of Johannesburg faced gloom, a hotbed of crime and lack of pedestrian activities, when Amos Masondo cleared up Johannesburg with BRT and fill people inside CBD which was previously a hotbed of crime....

At the end of the day, there are several examples, it is up to DBKL to tidur or bangun  biggrin.gif


Added on February 19, 2009, 10:35 am

I would say the benefit outweights the risk, haha

Johannesburg can cut the pickpocket and crime, why not us?

I doubt we are worse than Johannesburg eh?

10 years ago, the CBD of Johannesburg faced gloom, a hotbed of crime and lack of pedestrian activities, when Amos Masondo cleared up Johannesburg with BRT and fill people inside CBD which was previously a hotbed of crime....

At the end of the day, there are several examples, it is up to DBKL to tidur or bangun  biggrin.gif
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I wouldnt say the benefit outweighs the risk, for one when u involve corporate level, its alwys gain and benefit, not convenience
Unless its fully funded by the government

Sure, 20 years ago South Korea was worst than us, and see where they have gotten today, a reality check, we are going backwards instead of going forward
Other countries may or can show that they are capable, but do a reality check, whether we are capable or not
Its not the question of can or cannot, its proven that all countries can
But are we capable of doing it wink.gif
I am sure if u do a reality check yourself, you'll know the answer
I doubt we can even hit wawasan 2020



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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 19 2009, 11:25 AM)
Simply increase the number of people using the bridge...

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u cant force ppl to walk route A or B; its to design as part of them.traffic flow is uncontrollable.
design against it make the design fail; the only option is to understand how the pattern of walking comes.

remind of walking; in BB area..i have no choice but walk like i`m in 4x4 of borneo.. manyak lobang oh

QUOTE(peinsama @ Feb 19 2009, 11:37 AM)
Increasing the number of people is one of those traditional ways but still i believe securities should be increase especially when there is more people using the facilities. It doesn't has to be increasing proportionately with the numbers of people using the facility but at least adding more securities could reduce crime rate to a lower level rather than just relying on the traditional ways. You cannot simply said the more people at a specific location, the safer it is. It COULD look safer but it doesn't mean it WOULD be safer.
You rike it? brows.gif
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security is one thing; the crucial is have a proper design rather than have few post n zinc over for people to walk.
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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Feb 19 2009, 10:39 AM)
I wouldnt say the benefit outweighs the risk, for one when u involve corporate level, its alwys gain and benefit, not convenience
Unless its fully funded by the government

Sure, 20 years ago South Korea was worst than us, and see where they have gotten today, a reality check, we are going backwards instead of going forward
Other countries may or can show that they are capable, but do a reality check, whether we are capable or not
Its not the question of can or cannot, its proven that all countries can
But are we capable of doing it wink.gif
I am sure if u do a reality check yourself, you'll know the answer
I doubt we can even hit wawasan 2020
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Korekshyun, it is more like 30 years ago....1970's era

More like 1960's when Park Chung Hee took control of Hankuk...

In 1950's, they are much worse than us, after Korean war, they got famine and lots of slums.....Malaya was a heaven compared to the battered Hankuk....

I think, Malaysia will look good "statistically", but real life, er..........you and me know lah....as a matter of fact, World Bank already not granting IBRD loan to Malaysia, claiming we have "graduated"...along with Rossiya and Brasil

Of course, statistically, we are beautiful, but real life, HAHAHA

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 19 2009, 11:45 AM)
Korekshyun, it is more like 30 years ago....1970's era

More like 1960's when Park Chung Hee took control of Hankuk...

In 1950's, they are much worse than us, after Korean war, they got famine and lots of slums.....Malaya was a heaven compared to the battered Hankuk....

I think, Malaysia will look good "statistically", but real life, er..........you and me know lah....as a matter of fact, World Bank already not granting IBRD loan to Malaysia, claiming we have "graduated"...along with Rossiya and Brasil

Of course, statistically, we are beautiful, but real life, HAHAHA
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World Bank already not granting IBRD loan to Malaysia, claiming we have "graduated"?

wat is IBRD? unsure.gif

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