Yes, Why not!

Correct me if I am wrong.

I heard from some sources that H failed farm was built by DL.

Any clarification?

Hope someone could clear the air.

The guidelines seem to make it hard for all Swiftlet farmers. It’s very much of pressing down this industry rather than supporting it. It has got nothing to do with how much this industry will benefit the country or its Rayat they couldn’t care. It’s more of making it hard for all farmers.

Look at it the red tapes. Can’t do here, can’t do there, must well don’t do it at all. We are not asking for help or any assistant or subsidy. We are on our own merely asking permission to feed our mouth. The permission to live, to do business as for this they don’t even allow us to do so. Look at how they help those eg: Felda, Felcra,…..free land , free technical support, Free fertilizer…..

Look at the Chinese school, they survived on their own. Own fund from donation. Even sometime permits for donation fare were rejected. Own money to build school without burden to the gov also not allowed as they won’t approve whatever even the land is donated by someone.

So what make most of us think that the Guidelines will benefit all of us? It’s only to a certain extent. I am not trying to be pessimistic nor I am not supporting the Guidelines but it clearly shows there is no end to the pressing down of this industry. Who were the players? You all knew it very well. Who are the officials? Who was the one that give stupid ideas that encouraged them to press down the industry?

To change the mind set of these officials will take long time. There is a saying:
“You can take a person out of a Kampong but you can not take the Kampong out of him”

One good example is Sarawak do they ever thought of what they were doing when they demolish those BH. What is their objective and mission? What do they get? What have they achieved? What are their goals?

By doing such would the cave Swiftlets population increase afterwards? Would people stop smuggling B.nests in and out of the country?

Hope one day all these would change. It is not impossible but it will take a long time.

Thanks all of you who had worked hard cracking your heads day and night to make this dream a reality in future. I salute all of you.

I am very sure there are some lawyers who own Bh are reading this forum. There're 60k farms in Malaysia i am sure some owners are lawyer.

What happens to you guys Lawyer! It is an opportunity here where you could represent 60k owners where you could make big money. Imagine 30% fork out Rm300.00 each you would have Rm 5.4 million. Isn't that lucrative enough?

If I were one I would offer my service .It's better than waiting 3-5 yrs for nests. So for those lawyers who are reading this pls post your reply.

[quote=Engineer Lee,Feb 27 2009, 11:39 AM]My suggestion:

"Perusahaan sarang burung walit"


"Pengurusan sarang burung walit"

"Urusniaga sarang burung walit"
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"Perusahaan sarang burung walit" [(LATER THEY WANT YOU TO HAVE MANUFACTURING LICENSE. WHICH IS COSTLY AND ONLY MANUFACTURING HAS TO BE DONE IN INDUSTRY LAND ,TOWN ALL FINISH.)
or

"Pengurusan sarang burung walit" ( MANAGING , THERE ARE NO MANAGING HERE WHAT IS THERe TO MANAGE? Later ALL HAVE TO HAVE TO ATTENT MAMANGEMENT COURSE WHICH SET BY ALL THOSE JOKER.
or

"Urusniaga sarang burung walit"( TRADING ? THERE ARE NO TRANSACTION SO HOW TO TRADE ? we sell what to swiftlets? Later they will charge a high trading license fee and trading subjected to taxation)
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Penumpangan would be appropriate as we did not do any trading. So the perhilitan can't say that we trade or keep birds. They come and go as a Hotel "Penumpangan"

This post has been edited by swifbuild: Feb 27 2009, 01:39 PM

Since it involves orang kampong, how could orang kampong afford Rm 240.00? They will say places like penang, Taiping,etc all are town area so town area all towkay kaya-kaya that is why they charge rm 240.00. Why should there be double standard?

I would say not more that rumah tumpangan which is Rm 80.00. Places like Subang Jaya ,P.J ,etc where rental of ground floor shops could go above Rm 15,000.00 per month or more. The land is so expensive here,the business traffic is so high yet the trading license is only Rm 200++.

Why do we allow them to charge so high in small town just because of their stupid perception.

As mentioned goldsmith license is cheaper!

The reasonable charges should be below Rm 80.00

This post has been edited by swifbuild: Mar 1 2009, 01:38 AM

Both DK & OR have their advantages & disadvantages. It's how you could make use of them to the fullest advantage.

Understand the flying route & circle of birds would certainly help u in determine the right e.hole.

As far as sound pollution, given both without using Hex tweeters the sound reaching distance of DK is farther. As OR tends to reach a limited position as facing vertical to the sky. The advantage of OR the sound will not reach horizontal level thus less neighbors’ complain.

Check your fact before you claim what you heard. Go to my blog and open your Fxxking eyes and see the picture yourself and read between all sentences ("lines" in case you don't understand). The farm was under construction so how could I revamp it if it is still under construction. This is a platform for you to learn things from us not for defaming others.

Your friend’s farm was solely done and designed by him not me. He has no basic knowledge about Swiftlet farming and undertake the whole construction by himself that is why I called him a daring farmer. Lets put the point straight.

Since you want to mention I will let you know. The 1st floor was about 20++ feet high that was the first farm with such height I had ever seen in my entire life. I was shock to see that. I asked him why? He said to prevent thieves. I reply if it is a failed farm do you still worry about thief?

His opening of the DK was not at the proper position and many more which I can not finish writing here. The whole construction works and consultation was under take by him not ME. Go and ask him. I was invited there for an hour to give my view. Furthermore I was there only once.

He spent countless hours and hundred of thousand on the farm and I merely spend an hour there now you want to blame it on me. I will Fxxk you. What is your agenda?

You have your hidden agenda. The post was in mid Aug 2008 now is early Mar 2009. It was 30% completed and yet to complete another floor. It takes about 3-4 months to complete perhaps longer. Based on this it may complete in end 2008 or early 2009. From here if it had completed its only operated for 1 month ++ or 2 month now. What do you mean the result worse? Do you know what you are talking about? Is it before my visit there are few hundred nests inside the under construction building? You had Contradicted yourself, Boy! It shows you have hidden agenda and have totally no knowledge about swiftlet farming. You don't know what you are talking about. Please learn to be a better liar.

I merely show him his mistakes and how it should be done but all the pillars and structures already up there. Go and ask him to knock down the whole structure and rebuild I be the consultant I will guarantee you 100 nests in a year with my life asset. In case if you don’t understand English go and get a dictionary. KNNBCCB.

Hey Boy you are dealing with people who have knowledge. You think I am some idiot bloggers that you could fool with KNNCCB you. Stupid fool study your opponent first before you attack! Don’t simply pick your opponent. Don’t come here and play-play with me and find fault!


If you come in here to get knowledge you are welcome. If you come here to create disunity amongst all swiftlets farmers that are hand in hand now to solve the guidelines crisis you are not welcome. I could anticipate that some of the active forumers here who also bloggers may be next victim "beware"

P/S: just got info from source (few minute ago from insider)Mr. Lim himself had enggaded an idiot to undertake the operation to start sound from sound to aroma. Go and ask him. I dare him to call me!

This post has been edited by swifbuild: Mar 3 2009, 02:10 AM

For yr information I just got a call from Mr. Lim himself. I was so surprised that he calls me. He said I Fxxx you perfectly and how could you simply defamed others. He said there are many like you that create havoc. He asked me to ignore you. I salute Mr. Lim for his effort to call me to clear up the air.

Well I am a gentleman I rest my case and I have no time for you.


For your info the one you mentioned is done by Goldensw……… I suggest you should read more and mix around with someone that has knowledge in Swiftlet farming. May one day you learn good things not evil.

Fellow brother forumers beware!

Are you talking about your own family?

If you don’t show some respect and gentleman why should I do the same?

DON"T SIMPLY ACCUSE and ATTACK OTHERS. WATCH WHAT YOU SAY. I AM A VICTIM TOO.

Yes I agree with you here is the platform to share and to make friends not to make enemies. Certainly not a platform for accusing others just because of own judgment and own diffusion character. Go to some forum you will see the same person diffusing character trying to fried things up .Always same tactics of criticize others, their products, their skill whatever after another. I guess he must have feel good when he had criticized, belittle and bashed others. Just like steering up shit. This platform was started in early 2007 by few guys for the love and the good of swiftlet farming not for hidden agenda or get publicity or politic. I guess where were those who try to get publicity and criticizing other when it first started then. For those who say don't waste time here then they should'nt have came in at all.

There is not one moment he could stand still. I guess all forumers and readers know clearly not from what I write. It is from what they read in all articles of all forums and blogs. Readers are not stupid. Who always criticize others? Criticizing and targeting one bloggers to another even the other didn’t offended him or have no whatsoever relation with him. It is just a feel good sensation to satisfy his ego and character that craving for such. If you don’t support those that he looks high upon you are his enemy. If you support you are his friends. This doesn’t benefit anybody or the farming industry.

Worse of all he doesn’t accept his weakness and his mistake. I believe anyone can change for betterment of themselves or family or to the society.

A person diffusion character and attitude will bring him many enemies in life and not many friends. Even partnership in business will not last. It is a matter of time.

For sure the diffusion character will force him to bite back and bash back with revenge and anger when he see this if he think it is him. Well please accept him and forgive him…..don’t get mad with him actually it is not him it is his character. I believe character can be conditioned to change.

I am willing to accept this type of person as a friend if he changes. Everybody makes mistake most important they accept it and changes. Nobody is perfect. That is what most Gentlemen would do.

This post has been edited by swifbuild: Mar 4 2009, 02:15 PM

I challenge every genuine former to use your Name and your address and email contact we will have a fantastic community in this forum site and helping everyone and have friends in every corner of Malaysia where there Swiftlets flies and BH in the horizon . Not unless you are ashamed of yourself and only have bad intentions. Maybe Seeseng should only allowed identifiable former to post. KPW site is a good example.

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Ben,

Have you writen this wrongly? "Their not your". Or I am perceiving it wrongly or you actually mean "your". If all forumers use my address then it will be a big problem.

If you challenge every genuine forumer then it shouldn't be "your name"

I presume it is "their" correct me if I am wrong. Understood everybody makes typing error

This post has been edited by swifbuild: Mar 5 2009, 12:20 AM

I think…I have been in your mind struck there for some time that is why you refer me as others . ha..ha..ha…isn’t that good to remind you of me…ha..ha..ha.

Fyi I am 100% straight.

Sometimes we need jokes to cheer up the situation.

Good gentleman! Cheers

This post has been edited by swifbuild: Mar 5 2009, 01:01 AM

Old Ben…...Old Ben.....you are so eager to find out must have been very keen on this…ha….ha.... We really need a good laugh you are right……then I think northern won’t dare to go to Miri knowing that he is on your hospitality. For a cili padi and a sea food dinner he may lost his virginity. What an enticing effort. Unless he enjoy it as well….ha..ha…..Ben do all of us proud bang kau-kau he is all yours when Miri.It is payback time for demoralizing your beloved mentor!

You see this is gentleman ship …..we take jokes no hard feeling.
Are we confusing the forumers here....

Take care.

black flying ants, 80% of their diet.

For those who know sound system it is the RMS its count. Not how big or how cheap or expensive or how many channels. The packaging and out looks may fool us sometimes.

Open up the casing and take photo. Many will be able to tell you whether you get conned or not. Good sound needs high quality capacitors and micro componenets that are made in America, Japan or Taiwan or at least by the same company invested in china.

Since u mentioned that it is not as loud as SS66 therefore it is clearly showed certain reduction of power capacity in order to save cost .That is why for Rm 300 you can get this Amp.

Beside that the transformer is also important and many other things which we had discussed few years back in the previous V1. Go and check it out it may help u to understand more. Don't be too happy.

This my sincere advise. Hope it helps.

most of the things now made or assembledin China due to cost factors.

For good reputable OEM they used good branded components like Nichicon capacitor which is still made in Japan or Jamaicon made in USA.

But now I don't know they still put this stuff in due to customers always want cheap!

This dicussion will never end. My advise is don't overload your amp that is most important.

Immaterial where the SS99 come from most important the internal components inside. For me to know I have to open up and look inside. If they use good components then it is good.